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Some of the Toyota advantages are leaving. It has been the only truck with a Navigation system, for example, but that changes for 07 with Chevy offering one in their re-design. Both Chevy and Ford are hyping their FFV vehicles (and it IS hype, I think, considering the scarcity of E85), yet Toyota doesn't offer the option. I think their interiors are really great. Hopefully that will not change.
Today's Tundra (06) tows 6900 with a payload in the 1500lb range with a 4.7L engine. That's very respectable and as long as you're not going for a giant 5th wheel, it does the job fine. I wonder if Toyota may be giving up this particular niche where it competes fine with 150/1500. But if they're pretending to compete with the 250/2500 they are not quite there, despite their extra ten inches and the steroid look. All that means is that it may be too big to fit in my garage.
What would REALLY be breathtaking is if Toyota took their hybrid technology and made it work with a truck. Think of it: a full-sized truck that got more than 18 mpg! I'm not sure it would work, but I know that would turn some heads.
(BTW, I'm not anti-Toyota at all. I had an old chevy that fell apart, and a Ranger that bounces me around the road. My last five cars have all been Acuras.)
Bo
My need for explanation is: In three weeks driving in England last year I saw sum total of two pickups! Why no pickups in England?
410 hp? Is that correct, or a typo?
Bob
Toyota intentionally did not publish any specs when it was intro'd - waiting for the new GM's to be announced last week. Why give the competition a heads up.
Rumors, but they make sense and the timing is right in line as well.
The next 'rumors' IMO will deal with diesel and 'hybrid' versions.
Yeah I know, as I'm the "Bob" who posted it there. And it was a response to the above post in which it was mentioned.
Bob
DrFill
Bob
Thanks
Mark
Diesel Tundra some time 12-18 months later.
Looks rather ungainly to me, but maybe it's just the color or that it's a 2WD model. We'll see.
Head-to-head competitions are leaving GM/F/D gasping trying to get to 2nd place.
I guess "Access Cab" is only on Tacos now (for how long, who knows?).
I like the name "CrewMax," it just sounds cool for some reason.
In addition I just heard that the new '08 Sequoia, based on the '07 Tundra, will be Suburban sized. There's another HUGE adjustment.
Good advice as Im sure new owners will be spending lots of time there :sick:
According to the NHTSA recall database, I find the following info regarding the Tundra, the Ford F150, and the Chevy Silverado:
'06 Recalls: Tundra - 1, F150 - 4, Silverado - 7
'05 Recalls: Tundra - 4, F150 - 4, Silverado - 11
'04 Recalls: Tundra - 6, F150 - 2, Silverado - 11
It certainly appears from the recall tally that the Tundra has been AT LEAST (if not more so) as reliable as the other big players in the segment.
I've been reading this forum and have been following along with it. I'd like to clarify that Toyota DOES indeed state that dealerships need to have 12,000 lb. lifts and 9'x 20' service bays. I am the "Truck Champion" for my dealership. I just returned from 3 days of intense training in Princeton, Indiana. (home of the Tundra, Sequoia and Sienna) The release date really isn't a "delay" the new for '07 Tundra was always slated to be released in January of 2007. We (seminar attendies) were not given any real specifications on the new Tundra. I can tell you that I have driven the new Tundra and it is AWESOME! Let the questions begin...
1. Does the interior look as stupid in person as it does in pictures? How many colors is the dash again?
2. Is the Ext Cab as big as the Quad Cab Dodge Ram inside?
3. What makes it so "AWESOME"?
DrFill
Okay, the Crew Max is as big if not bigger than the Mega Cab by Dodge. The new "Double Cab" is about the same size if not a tad larger than the Dodge Quad Cab. The truck looks way better in the flesh. I can't go into details as to why the new for '07 Tundra was awesome. And here's why DR. Fill...I had to sign 6 different forms to attend this national "Truck Champion" meeting. One of which was a non-disclosure form. Toyota is holding their cards close to their chest. Currently, there is a "specification embargo". I'm not sure what info. I can tell you and what I can't. I was allowed to drive the new Tundra on both street and off road courses set up around the Indiana plant. We were able to take the new 2wd Tundra in places I would not take my current/personal '06 4WD Tundra through.
Think of this new Tundra as not only the most capable 1/2 ton pick up on the road but also the Lexus of full sized pick ups. It is so quiet and smooth and has Lexus/Toyota quality, fit and finish. The interior will come with 4 color choices. Again, I wish I could go into more detail but I am not allowed.
Thanks.
. .Has anyone heard if the 6.5' bed will be available on the CrewMax?? If you have heard or know anyone with Toyota to ask, I would certainly appreciate it if you could post the answer. I do not look forward to begin driving a 3/4 ton Crew Cab Chevy or Ford etc. again but I may have to. "TRUE TRUCKERS" HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST A 6.5' BED WITH A CREW CAB!!!!! .Many Thanks, appreciate any help you can give me!!!!
Toyota is scheduled to release all spec.s on the new Tundra come mid-December. Toyota would not share any hp/torque ratings with us at the Indiana seminar. They don't "want to let the cat out of the bag". My seat of the pants dyno tells me that the hp is around the 385 to 390 mark and the torque I would have to guess is around 425 to 430-ish. (5.7 liter V8) this new truck just pulls like a mule from down low. I'd say that 1st gear is a rather low gear. And without knowing what axle ratio the truck I was driving in had, it's tough to accurately tell good horsepower and torque #'s. Again my butt and racing experience tells me the aforementioned #'s.
I could barely tell when the truck shifted. My understanding was that Toyota is only going to offer the Crew Max in five n' 1/2 ft. boxes for the intially run. I'd figure a 6 and 1/4-1/2' box for either late '07 or perhaps '08. If you're going to pull a 5th wheel an 8' box is really the way to go due to the swing of the front of the trailer. And aligning the hitch 2" in front of the rear axle in the truck's bed. The new "D-Cab" comes with an 8' box. So you'll get plenty of interior space and yet still have the ability to make 90 degree "jack knife" turns with your 5th wheel.
If your local dealer told you that they were getting new 2007 Tundras next week then A.) they're lying or B.) they thought you were talking about new '06 models. Or perhaps you spoke with a new sales person who doesn't know the difference. When I was in Princeton, IN last week Toyota was still building 2006 Tundras. They were only getting ready to build the '07 model trucks. The employees at the plant were in training on how to build the components of the new '07 Tundra.
Yup, you're right. I have no idea what I was thinking when I typed that. The new '07 Crew Max's rear seats slide fore and aft. They do not fold up like the current D-Cab from what I could see. Sorry about that. I wasn't afforded enough time to "play" with the rear seats that much. We were short on time when I was driving/checking out the Crew Max. Toyota only supplied one Crew Max (in camoflauge) and everyone in my group was crawling all over it. I did however get a chance to drive it and sit in the rear seats. There's alot of room back there.
As far as I know, release won't be until Jan '07 at the earliest (with the Crew Max release for later on in the Spring of '07). Given that information, doesn't the '07 still qualify as a "FUTURE" vehicle?
This makes great sense for a lot of reasons:
it probably incorporates the new SAE testing requirements;
it leaves room for mid-model 'tweaks'. Why shoot all your ammo at first volley;
it still is best-in-class;
My feeling is that the engine really is a 400+ hp beast under a tight rein.