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Ok, back on topic with this board, I paid about $32,000 against an MSRP of about $33,200 for a 2005 double cab, TRD, SR5. Sounds like I could've negoiated better.
List $30,575
My price: $25,787 - Plus TTL and $100 processing fee
over $2000 BELOW INVOICE ....
DarCars Sliver Spring. Deal was end of month special + rebate. Deal went smoothly, no "extras" - just standard $100 processing fee. Only caveat is that at this price they were not so keen to give me a good price on trade in - so I'll have to sell myself.
Also note that they only have a very small number in stock, I was VERY lucky to get the TRD I wanted ....
Very very happy with this truck and with this deal - best deal I've ever negotiated on any car I've bought ...
List $32,059
Out the Door $27,250
I had been looking all over to find a dealer that had one on the lot so I didnt have to wait a week or more.
fred
All Weather Pkg
Carpet Mats
JBL AM/FM/Cass/CD w/8 Speakers
TRD Off Road Package
Overhead Console w/Compass & Outside Temp
Power Moonroof w/Tilt & Slide
Limited Slip Differential
Daytime Running Lights
Privacy Glass
Challenger Step Boards
Upgraded Alarm System
Moonroof wind deflector
MSRP $30,750
After TT&L and fees it 's right under $30K. My tax is 4%.
What do the experts think, good deal or can I do better? Thanks in advance for the info.
Fred
Too bad the new 4.0L V6 isn't an option with 4X4...
All that said, in this area (DC), I can get Tundras at MSRP of 30750 for 26100 (which includes all the rebates I assume) with little effort, but this area is so competitive. I'm sure I could easily shave another 300-500 off that and maybe even much more. Who knows?
Here are the details:
All Weather Pkg
Carpet Mats
JBL AM/FM/Cass/CD w/8 Speakers
TRD Off Road Package
Overhead Console w/Compass & Outside Temp
Power Moonroof w/Tilt & Slide
Limited Slip Differential
Daytime Running Lights
Privacy Glass
Challenger Step Boards
Upgraded Alarm System
Moonroof wind deflector
Invoice cost according to NADA website the invoice cost with these options is $26,864. (not including the free security system $369)
Dealer's best offer is $27,661 before TT&L and a ridiculous $499 doc fee. :mad:
Out the door with all TT&L and the doc fee included comes to $29,338.
Also dealer said they will install a Tundra remote security system for free. ($369)
What do yall think, is this a good/fair deal?
But if you can control your birthright and see fit to get a positraction or limited slip think what you can do for the eco system in savings of greenhouse gases, in wasted fuel and pollution. Think about saving our planet. :sick:
My one gripe with my new Tundra is the radio/speakers, it's supposed to be JBL, but it sounds kinda crappy. I just had a LineX bed liner spayed in, looks great!!
Thanks,
Rob
I have grown up in a mostly rural area most of my life. I've been driving for over 26 years and can only recall wanting the use of 4-wheel drive on about three occasions. Of those three I slugged through one of them anyway, got myself un-stuck in another and had to be towed out of the third. If I had had 4-wheel drive, I would have had to be towed out of the third anyway.
Most pick-up truck owners will never really need 4-wheel drive. 4X4 were really meant for poor traction situations and are best suited for unprepared driving surfaces like construction sites, farms and other off road adventures. Situations most truck owners never encounter. Tough winters may be an exception.
I'll just keep my 4X2's on the roads and enjoy the lower maintenance and fuel costs. I guess I may suffer in the resale market because of the people who think they just have to have 4X4's, but I usually drive them forever anyway.
I look forward to hearing from anybody in the area that could give some feedback about dealers, dealings and deals they've encountered.
Thanks
Thad
Thad
I am surprised that there is no locking gas door. I don't really like that feature, anyone replace their gas cap with a locking one?
If you don't mind me asking, did you have a trade-in? and what was your negotiating strategy?
Nice deal bye the way.
Just got back tonight from Classic Toyota in Round Rock, TX. The salesguy/lot-runner was honest in saying he didn't know much about the Tundra because he had only worked there six weeks. Took me in to a smiley faced guy who was to close the deal since he had 4 years experience over the young lot-runner. I have now more questions than answers. Simple questions they do not have answers.
Who has good telephone sales nationwide of Toyotas? By "good" I mean knows the product and the different configurations. I want to know what I am buying before I buy.
Why is the car business have such low rent sales, including Toyota
I have really the same question as you.
Also tried using the Edmunds site to calculate pricing etc. with the X-SP package but could not locate the X-SP package... Help anyone??
Thanks
Jim
I would really like to be able to go to the dealership and just order one specifically the way I want it. But I am not able to determine the specific packages offered...
When you say out the door, is that including TTL? Also, out of curiosity, what dealership did you buy from... I really want one!!!
2005 Tundra double cab 4 x 2 silver with charcoal
limited slip, JBL audio w 8 speakers, 17" alloy wheels, homelink, overfenders, keyless entry,mats
MSRP $28,892
sales price $23,150 out the door $25,500
Claremont Toyota (southern California) ad car ($22,977 two only). I got there Friday around noon and drove it, told the salesman I wanted it and sat down to do the paperwork. Another salesman comes over and asks to see the keys because one of his customers wants to see it. I reluctantly agree and hand them over. They come back 5 minutes later and give me back the keys. No problem, right? Then the sales manager comes over and says they have sold the truck already to this other guy. Incredulous, I say ok, give me another one at the same price and I’ll be happy. He says no, we can't do it but I’ll sell you one for $900 more with LoJack. I don't want it and tell him I’ll be glad to pay $200 more than the ad truck to get another truck with the same package- it's a loss leader and I know I’m getting a great deal. Plus I’ve got to drive 65 miles home on a Friday afternoon in LA traffic. He says no and comes back with $25,800 out the door. I say $25,500 out the door. He won't budge. I say fine and walk.
In the parking lot I leave messages on the GM and General sales manager’s voice mail describing the incident and my disappointment in the way I was treated. I tell them they have 2 days to get back to me to resolve it or I post my experience on Edmunds and a couple of other websites that buyers check.
Not 5 minutes after I get home I get a call from the GSM apologizing for my troubles and what time would I like to come in to pick up the truck at my offer price. Stand up guy.
Picked it up on Saturday without any hitches. Everybody was courteous and professional. I got to hand it to them- they made it right and I got exactly what I wanted for what I wanted to pay.
X-SP Sport Package 2
All Weather Guard Package Includes:
Limited Slip Differential
Overhead console with Compass, and
Performance Dual Exhaust
Power Tilt/Slide Moonroof
Towing Package w/ClassIV Hitch,130 Amp
JBL AM/FM/Cass/CD w/8 Speakers
Rear DVD Entertainment System w/2
Sticker $38,764
For $33,608 not including tax, etc.
Is this a good deal?
Tundra SR5 4x4
X-SP Sport Package 2
All Weather Guard Package
Limited Slip Differential
Overhead console with Compass
Performance Dual Exhaust
Power Tilt/Slide Moonroof
Towing Package w/ClassIV Hitch,130 Amp
JBL AM/FM/Cass/CD w/8 Speakers
Rear DVD Entertainment System w/2
Sticker $38,764
For $33,608 not including tax, etc.
Is this a good deal?
Hope this helps.
Ken
Trade-in - I've got a '99 Chevy Suburban that another dealer offered me $6K trade-in for (was looking at a used truck).
I kinda want 4WD, but maybe I don't really need it (just don't like the feeling of getting stuck). This truck has the Limited Slip Differential.
Should I try to trade-in the Suburban, or what should I offer, and then what should I expect for a final deal? I've never bought a new car before.
:confuse:
thanks!
Ken
SO, my first bit of advice as a new buyer, would be to figure out what is, and what isn't, important to you in a truck. (You MUST have a truck, right?) Write down what you MUST have, and then some other things you might like to have, but could do without. All of this has to fit within your budget. NEVER LOSE SIGHT OF THAT. Do not be suckered into buying more than you want or need. NEVER NEVER NEVER.
Ok, now that you have that list, research the heck out of the truck here on Edmunds, other "car" sites, and of course, Toyota.com. In fact, Toyota.com has a place on their web page where you can actually "build" your own vehicle to get an idea of what it'll cost. Add and subtract features until you land where you want to land. At that point you can either special order it with your dealer, or try to find something similar in a dealer's inventory close to you. Again, the website can help you through that.
You can always "build" the truck you want, then take it to that dealer to see whether he has it (or something close) in stock.
Pricing. You will need to get a real good idea on what the invoice is for the base truck you want, plus all the features/options you've added (or found on a truck the dealer has in stock). Research Edmunds to find out what rebates are available in your area.
OK, once you find a truck that fits YOUR needs, you're ready to make an offer. The approach you take depends on what you're comfortable with. If the market you are in seems to be pretty competitive, consider this formula: total invoice price - rebates + $300 profit. Or give them more/less profit if you like. (Invoice includes the destination charge, but does not include taxes and doc fees. Beware the doc fees. Don't pay more than a couple of hundred for those. They may like your offer or counter it. Only you can decide how much or how little you want to pay. But ALWAYS REMEMBER, you have two feet with which to walk out on if you don't fully like what you're hearing. NEVER succumb to pressure. It's YOUR money. OR you can tell them you'll take the info home, re-work the numbers and get back to them. They sure don't like to hear that, because they think you'll never return, and maybe you won't, but maybe you will. You're driving this bus, not them.
Bottom line, research, know what you want/need, you what you're willing to pay, and stick to your horses. Never succumb to pressure.
Lastly, when you hit the finance office, don't buy anything you don't want or need there as well. And that includes the finance rate. You may want to get yourself approved at your bank or credit union BEFORE you go to the dealer. That way you might save yourself time and headaches. Do not ever buy rust proofing or fabric protection or paint sealant. If they offer something you think you might want, approach it as you would any other thing -- ask for time to think about it. But again, as far as many car dealers are concerned, they want to RUSH you through the process. DO NOT let them rush you into ANYTHING.
Be respectful, and have fun. It can be fun. This has always been my approach and I've been pretty successful I must say. Above all, I am honest and respectful. If I say I'll return, I will. And I leave when I feel uncomfortable.
I hope this helps.
PS, As for the trade in, research what it's worth both as a "trade in" and as a "private party sale" (you should sell it yourself if you are willing and able -- you'll get much more for it). You can use Edmunds, Kelly blue book, and nada to name a few to get an idea of its value. The numbers between these sources will vary, but at least you will get an idea of what it's worth ballpark.