99-00 SILVERADO - ORDER TO DELIVERY - II

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  • gotribe1gotribe1 Member Posts: 81
    Thanks for the phone#. I just got off the phone with customer service; my truck was built YESTERDAY! Order was placed 3/15, interior changed 3/16 and built on 4/10! This can only mean that my truck will get here very soon and within 48hrs. a new incentive program will begin! I take it your a Penn State Nitnay Lion, our browns should end up with one of your alumni. I guess my order doesn't beat Ryan's for quickness but overall it had to be at least a year and a half shorter in duration!
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    I have the record. 27 days!!! itll be 18 more till i see it though :(

    Ryan
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Member Posts: 81
    Ryan, do you really think they put all of your pieces/parts on? They rushed your's because they knew weren't taking delivery for a while, everyone else can go to Helen Wait. I bet your paint didn't even dry!
  • bob332bob332 Member Posts: 137
    Please explain the GM Supplier Deal (amount, timelines, qualifications, etc.) that you referred to on #131 and #132. I am sure it is too late for me since I have already ordered, but I would still like to know more about it. I will probably kick myself that I let this one slip throught, but I have not heard of it. I am always interested in saving money on a new truck. Your information just might be helpful for someone else also. Thanks. Bob
  • 87lion87lion Member Posts: 166
    And if I were picking I would take Brown. He's probably as athletic as Arrington but more disciplined and coachable.

    I can't wait to take my Silverado tailgating. Of course it's PSU blue.
  • bob332bob332 Member Posts: 137
    GM customer service told me last week that the loyalty coupon was no longer any good. My coupon had expired I believe at the end of Januray. At that time I had not made a decision about a new truck, even thought I was thinking about it, and was not ready to place an order. My order was also accepted by GM on March 16 (same as yours) with a TPW of 4/10. As of today I cannot find out anything from cc other than it is scheduled to be built this week. Hopefully, I am not far behind you in production. I will call cc again tomorrow. Bob
  • bob332bob332 Member Posts: 137
    Ryan, thanks for the information on the GM Supplier Deal. I do not qualify for it, but I appreciate your filling me in on the program. I figured the percentages on your truck and on mine and I could have saved almost $400. if I had qualified for the program. I think I ended up getting a fairly good deal as I had priced at several dealers, but it was quite time consuming whereas you did not need to do all of that. If I had a choice, I would take your deal and be $400. better off. Bob
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Out of 5 dealership in a 20 mls radius only 1 would accept my supplier deal i chose not to go there cause we had a few minor problems with out blazer we got there a few months back so i decided to go about 200mls away to a dealership that was / is wonderful. I started talking to the salesman online at night back in august. hes a yr older than me so we talked about alot of things besides trucks. it was great i found someone not only to sell me a truck but to be a great friend.

    Ryan
  • mledtjemledtje Member Posts: 1,123
    I called GM CC and got a TPW of 4-24. Should be here in California by 5-10. Not as good as your record, but quite good for a 2500.

    Ordered 15 March
    Order accepted 28 March
    TPW 24 April
    Delivery ~5-10 May
    Order accepted to delivery 38-43 days for a 2500 with GMS pricing.

    Much better than the 16 weeks I waited last year for my 1500.

    Congrats on the world record.

    Mike L
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Member Posts: 81
    Its really good to hear that someone likes their salesperson. Having been one myself, I can't stress enough how important it is to treat someone with respect. If more customers were like you, more people would enjoy what should be one of life's greatest joys, getting a new vehicle. If people spent more time understanding the vehicle and less time on worrying about the last ten cents they would be happier with their purchase. Price is important the day you buy, but more important is how well you and your vehicle are treated after the sale.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Well said. Yea and it helps when the sales people know what they are talking about. First dealership i went to i wanted to see a truck with bucket seats and bench he didnt know the difference and he even told me one that had the bench had buckets. He was a total idiot and i told him if he even had an incling what he was talking about he would have made $30000 (not him but u know) Speaking of salespeople i need to call mine and set up the accessories that are being added.

    Ryan
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Member Posts: 81
    You're right, most of them don't know enough. One of the problems I've seen over the years is that most Ford dealers have truck managers or truck departments, but most Chevy dealers don't. There is usually one person who knows more than the others but not a truck manager. When you can find the right person, treat them well and send'em more business! Unfortunately for most Chevy sales people they have too many different products to know. Many of them try hard, but management usually wants them to sell something today and deliver it yesterday!
  • rayt2rayt2 Member Posts: 1,208
    was good to me also but then again I went in with what I wanted all they had to do was quote the price. I did give him one up on his fellow salespeople though when I told him about the hour meter feature the Silverado's have, he didn't know about it but was the talk of the sales floor after I showed him because no one else knew about it either........

    Ray T.
  • rayt2rayt2 Member Posts: 1,208
    Don't forget to check the hour meter when you get truck to see how long it was run, remember another post way back who got his new truck with 25 hours already on engine..........
    Mine had 2/10 hour when I got it.

    Ray T.
  • stvokcstvokc Member Posts: 32
    Gotribe1 what incentive is going to start in 48 hours that you refered to in your #164 post?
  • 87lion87lion Member Posts: 166
    I'm glad to hear some of you are pleased with your dealer. As regulars on the Silverado topics know, I have been less than pleased.

    Latest aggravations:

    Truck arrived at the dealer Thursday. Salesman called and left 2 messages to set up appointment to close deal. Called my house just as I got home and indicated I "needed" to come to dealership tonight. Found out when I got there all he wanted to do was close the deal that night. Truck wasn't even prepped and I had no chance to look at it in the daylight. Salesman said I could then come back Friday to take delivery. Told him sorry but I wanted my wife on the title and she obviously wasn't by my side at the moment. Also told him I wanted to close and take delivery Saturday.

    Friday he called 2 more times trying to get me or my wife in there.

    Saturday I went in to pick up the truck. The business guy tried to get me to use their financing. I got 6.5% for 5 years through my credit union. They also provide free life and disability coverage to pay off the loan. Dealer offered 5.9% at 4 years saying payments would be about $5 less per month. After discussing it for a while and staying with my CU he checks his computer. OOPS! He had put in the wrong term and payment for dealer financing was $50 higher. Have 7 days to get check from the credit union.

    Salesman spent about 2 minutes discussing features and let me go.

    Accessories woman then tried to sell me undercoating. Told me GM was no longer doing the hot wax treatment on the underside. No sale.

    Tuesday called my credit union. They had not yet received fax of bill of sale so they could cut check. Called dealer. Had not yet faxed bill of sale. Said they weren't used to dealing with credit unions!?! I think they were just trying to force me into financing through the dealership. If I hadn't called my CU I wouldn't have even known the dealer never contacted them.

    I have not been a pain in the butt to these guys. I got my deal through Costco's buying program. I didn't haggle on price. I knew exactly what I wanted. And I rarely even called them for info.

    Salesman also said I'd get a survey from GM and that the dealership would give me a free tank of gas if I came by and filled it out with him. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!

    Anyone want to buy my integrity for 50 bucks worth of gas?
  • stvokcstvokc Member Posts: 32
    #634 of 636: R6J Captive Fleet-Janesville - gotribe1 (stvokc) Tue 11 Apr '00 (07:55 PM)

    gotribe1 - So if this is on my invoice then
    dealer orderd my 2 truck purchases as fleet vechile? One of the trucks was ordered GM employee and other one sold unit. So does this mean the dealer ordered them fleet instead of regular? How many days then does dealer have free interest and other extra things like fuel? Is this good or bad for me that dealer ordered them fleet instead of regular? As a GM employee I am paying invoice minus and other truck is at invoice so this charge is something I have to
    pay. I found it unusual that there would be a
    $16.50 charge on invoice and no charge on MSRP. I
    did not request this option and dealer never
    mentioned this option. Trucks are suppose to arrive at dealer later this week. I am trying to find out this information before they arrive. I do for the factory invoice on each truck that dealer gave me last week. Does dealer get more free interest days fleet wise or comes out better in other ways?
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Member Posts: 81
    The new incentive that I was referring to is the one that ALWAYS starts right AFTER I buy something. Like when I bought a Betamax VCR [beta is better] for $1100 and they were reduced the next month to $500! GET IT? My earlier post asked if anyone new of any new programs. THERE ARE NOT ANY AS OF THIS POSTING! I hope that clears things up for you.
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Member Posts: 81
    Dude, you never indicated that these trucks were ordered for a GM option program! If they were, they would be invoiced with your name on the invoice. There isn't a better [cheaper & less hassles] way to buy a new vehicle [GM anyway] than a option 1 order! And you pay the amount on the invoice, plus tax and doc fees. Nobody can mess with the figures! On the other hand, if the trucks were miss-ordered have the dealer apply for new invoicing, they should be able to document that it was ordered for a GM emp. Fleet sales are usually ordered for the least possible cost, meaning that the dealer starts paying interest almost as soon as the vehicle hits the ground. They need it to go over the curb ASAP. They won't order it that way if it is NOT a fleet order because they have a lot of potential downside, messing up future allocations, etc. There is no negotiation on destination fees either. It sounds like one of your units was ordered GM opt. and therefore price protected [destination fee under old program] and the other not GM opt. Could that be what happened? I haven't worked at GM store for a few years so this is based on old information.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    YEa there will be watch may 1st they will start a new rebate thing or something 2 days after i get mine then ill be pissed. I couldnt use my $500 back in Feb kinda went to waste. Hope they dont but i have a feeling they will

    Ryan
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    The salesman told me hes pretty sure i wont have to pay the extra $25 for destination. They might be able to have it waived. Also Do you have any doc fees? I do not have to pay any ad or doc fees.

    Ryan
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Member Posts: 81
    Yeah, I have to pay the rotten advertising fee of $315.05 on my new truck in order to read the advertising about the next rebate or finance deal that I WON'T be getting! As you are getting a supplier program you won't have to PAY to read about others getting some new program the week after you get yours. I would suggest that if you don't need your truck right away, I think you said earlier that you were going to let it sit there for a while, let it sit, or have the dealership hold off reporting the delivery for a little bit to see if there is something new coming. Most dealers have title fees and other doc fees that in Ohio usually run $50-75. Good luck!
  • stvokcstvokc Member Posts: 32
    Thanks for the insight on the destination charge and the Captive Fleet. I think that is what happened then on the destination charge. Yes my name is on the invoices.

    Dealer did not tell me he was going to order them fleet. If they were ordered the regular way how may free interest days does dealer get. Does dealer come out ahead ordering fleet vs. regular way? Do I come out ahead or loss with dealer ordering my trucks fleet. I do not plan on buying the trucks until the end of the month, as orginially that was the projected arrivial by dealer. I am not ready to get them since they are going to come early,later this week.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Im getting it april 29th i dont want it to sit to long.

    Ryan
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Member Posts: 81
    I would think you would come out ahead as a GM order instead of fleet; but as I said earlier I haven't been working with that stuff in a while so I can't give you definite answer. One thing that I do know, the dealer actually can do better on a GM order than settling for holdback plus like I bought mine. What I'm saying is that if I could have gotten GM opt. purchase, I would have saved plenty compared to what I'm paying, and the dealer would actually have made a few bucks more. But its not worth trying to cheat for. Its all in how the General reimburses the dealerships. Now don't all you GM folks take this to mean that you can go in and negotiate on top of your program. It don't work thata way! I don't know if I answered you question. I would ask the dealer to tell you how GM opt. price would compare with what he did with your fleet. By the way, he can't sell you fleet unless you have a fleet account. Thanks for the info on Farm Bureau & H&R Block
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Member Posts: 81
    Sorry to read about your sad experiences at the dealership. I'm sure the scenario was like this: Sales manger: "That cheapskate, who ordered through Costco, his truck came in. Call him and get his #&* down here so we can grind on him! Be sure Aftermarket and F&I get their crack at him too! And don't muck this up like that last deal I gave you!" I used an M so Meredith wouldn't punish me! If I can relate a true story about one of the sales seminars I attended, put on by one of the so called top people in the industry. Its also kind of funny. Here goes. " When somebody asks for your best price you should respond with the window sticker. If the customer answers " I'm not paying sticker! Do you think I'm an idiot?!" Salesman is to answer " No sir, I don't think your an idiot! But if you were, I couldn't pass up the oppertunity!" What I'm trying to say is you kind of have to expect some of that stuff like rustproofing and finance to come up. The dealers make more profit on aftermarket and finace than they do on vehicles!
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Member Posts: 81
    You are smart not to let it sit. Things can happen, like door dings, scratches, etc. I was just at the library reading the Tundra, Silverado, F150, Dodge Ram shootout article in Motor Trend. I refuse to givem my $$$. Once again I see they have had to justify their Truck of the year award. I looked at the Tundra, I think it is a fine vehicle if you need a little tykes truck! I was thinking, do you know that if you rearrange the letters in Tundra you can spell Da Runt! OUT FOR NOW
  • wight1wight1 Member Posts: 218
    Looked back through some of your posts, but must have missed something.

    In post #119 you said you had an original TPW of 4-10. In post #159 you said it was actually delivered on 4-10. So what was your actual build date, and then how long to get to dealer on 4-10?
  • stvokcstvokc Member Posts: 32
    What advantage does dealer have to ordering fleet vs. regular? How many free finance days regular order does dealer have about? My invoice came in GM employee with R6J Captive Fleet-Janesville under options. Does that mean he ordered it employee fleet? As I understand from you under Fleet the dealer does not have many free interest days but under regular way dealer has a lot more free interest days. Does dealer get more money from GM holdback, adv, etc ordering Fleet VS regular order. I'm trying to figure out why dealer ordered them Fleet, I do not understand his doing this. My other truck ordered at the same time was a non GM employee order but invoice came in with R6J Captive Fleet-Janesville under option. My GM price is fixed and the non GM employee was based off invoice. What I would like to know is why dealer would order Fleet VS regular? What does the dealer have to gain this way? What do I lose since dealer ordered it that way and did not tell me? Thanks again for your help.

    Trucks are suppose to be here later this week. I would like to be informed as I can talk intelligent to dealer. I will not want to pick up trucks until April 27th. Dealer orginaly told me they would not be here until first part to mid May. I have to wait until April 27th to free up money to purchase. Would have been just right according to dealers orginial time frame. Dealer told me they would not even be built until this week and now they will be here this week.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Origional TPW from dealer was 4-10-00.

    Gm built my truck (finished i guess) 4-6-00

    Received by dealership 4-10-00

    They moved the TPW up a wk.

    Ryan
  • wight1wight1 Member Posts: 218
    Quick delivery, man. Mine was built 4-4 and dealer shows it should be at the rail yard on the north side of town next Monday, delivered to him Tuesday, mine on Wednesday.

    Really lucked out on selling my old Dodge. Put a for sale sign on it 2 days ago, and 3 people I work with want to buy it as a first vehicle for their high school kid. Told them it goes to the highest bidder!!
  • gotribe1gotribe1 Member Posts: 81
    I don't know how many interest free days on either account, been gone too long. What the dealer can gain from a fleet order is that for most vehicles there is something that is called a fleet allowance. The amount varies depending on the model, the year of the program, and what kind of fleet account the unit is for; as an example, is it rental, commercial, or government. I don't think you are probably any of these. So I DON'T have a clue. Why weren't both of your trucks GM opt. My antenna tells me there's more to this story, but lets skip that chapter. Fleet allowances used to be passed on to the fleet customer, this was to be competetive with other manufact. GO TRIBE!
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Delivery time helped that mine was built in fort wayne indiana and it was delivered to the dealership in angola which is appx 30 min away. It came in all alone on the semi im sure it got many looks at on the road i hope it didnt cause no accidents haha. It took a total of 27 days from order accepted till the day it was delivered. WORLD RECORD. I know how u are with selling your old vehicle my dads going to sell his 87 blazer (anyone out there wanna buy it???) and im gonna give him his S-10 back. We dont need 4 cars in our family for 3 people to drive.

    Ryan
  • mledtjemledtje Member Posts: 1,123
    Your world record is in jeopardy! At least it will have an asterisk for delivery*

    *Delivery to dealer, not customer/owner

    My truck will not sit at the dealers for any longer than it takes me to get a check from the credit union.

    What do you mean you don't need 4 cars for 3 people to drive? My wife and I have 5 cars/trucks and 5 motorcycles to drive. All licensed and insured. I do want to sell a couple (72 El Camino and 91 Capri conv) to make room for the new truck. May also sell the current truck.

    Mike L
  • stvokcstvokc Member Posts: 32
    Can anyone tell me what this option is?
    (R6J Captive Fleet-Janesville). I did not order
    this it but it came on the invoice of my new truck
    under options. It shows 0 cost under MSRP and
    $16.50 charge under invoice amount. Truck was
    ordered GMO. Does this mean dealer ordered my
    truck fleet.

    Also truck was built in Wentsville(St. Louis)
    plant. I did not know they were making truck
    there. Any comments on trucks coming out of that
    plant.
  • wight1wight1 Member Posts: 218
    An update to my earlier post this morning. Dealer just called and my truck is HERE!!! Going to pick it up this afternoon.

    Ordered from dealer 1/7/00, dealer got allocation 2/29, built 4/4, delivered 4/13. It sure seemed like a lifetime while I was waiting, but now that its here, it doesn't seem like that long, especially considering its a 2500.

    Full specs are 2500 LS, 6.0l, 3.73, auto, 2WD, tow package, heavy duty suspension, fog lamps, tow hooks, bucket seats, camper mirrors.

    HOT DAMN!!!!
  • rayt2rayt2 Member Posts: 1,208
    Sounds exactly like my truck less the fog lights, tow hooks & 6.0L. Was that an Ext. Cab? I have the 3 door version one of the last made before switch to all 4 door at factory.
    Good Luck with it.

    Ray T.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Congrats.

    Mike L.
    My dads 87 Blazer is kinda over the hill thats why we are getting rid of it. Get about a couple grand for that and put towards my truck. Ill give him his 92 S-10 back to drive to the steel mill ill get the silverado (he will get to drive my silverado on weekends when im at work) and my mom will have her 2000 blazer still. It all works out, theres just no point in us having 4 vehicles we can only drive one at a time. I could see if we had like a corvette or some like great car but a 13 yr old blazer? nah get rid of it and get some cash.

    Ryan

    Congrats Wight let us know how u like it
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Where was your truck built? Mine was built in fort wayne indiana. I dont think im gonna put a lid on mine unless i find one i like and i havent come close yet. Spray in bedliner will be good enough

    Ryan
  • speedybirdspeedybird Member Posts: 29
    Yep, will also put a spray-in-bedliner, but I want the ability to lock the back up.
    The truck was built in Michigan.

    Fort Wayne huh, I am a Purdue grad.

    Randy
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Cool i go to purdue. What was your major? Mine is mech engineering. Im from hammond indiana probably heard of it. Its close to chicago. Im glad my truck was built in indiana its kinda neat. I can say my truck was built in the same state i live

    Ryan
  • speedybirdspeedybird Member Posts: 29
    Major was EE. Born and raised in Chicago so yep I know where Hammond is. Been cow-tipping lately??
    Randy
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    No cows around here. DOnt see those till you go down south. Where do you live now Randy? EE haha can u help me with my HW??? I have ee201 and ee207 (lab) now i hate electricity and all the stuff that goes with it. Well i gotta get back to working on a lab about transient response of RC circuits loads of fun!!!

    Ryan
  • wight1wight1 Member Posts: 218
    Forgot to mention mine is extended cab with 4th door. It seemed like an eternity to get that 4th door model, but I'm really glad I waited for it. I've already opened it about a dozen times already.

    Picked it up about 3:30 yesterday afternoon, and went on a drive that ended up being about 100 miles. What an absolutely awesome truck! All 4 doors are solid, no wind noise, no rattles, no vibration, no launch shudder. The 6.0l engine is really something. And although its way too early to tell, it looks to me like the gas gauge isn't going down any faster than on my old truck!

    Found some small chips in the paint on the edge of the tailgate late last night. Salesman and I both did walk-around before I took delivery, but somehow both of us missed it. Called dealer this morning and he's sending somebody over to my office to touch it up for me.
  • wight1wight1 Member Posts: 218
    I saw one of the lids you described which contoured the tailgate lip. I believe it was either a Leer or ARE.
  • bob332bob332 Member Posts: 137
    Hey, this topic is Silverado - Order To Delivery. I think the Farm Bureau Insurance $500 that you mentioned is only on a Dodge purchase. Wish it applied to GM, then I might be able to get it. Bob
  • mledtjemledtje Member Posts: 1,123
    The gas guage on my truck takes 100 miles to come down to full, and about 100 miles for each 1/4 tank.

    It doesn't move at all for about 50 miles.

    Hope you get great mileage with your 2500.

    Mike L
    99 Silverado 1500 4x4 4.8L 5spd
    00 Silverado 2500 4x4 6.0L 5spd
    Deadhorse, Alaska 6-6-99
  • bob332bob332 Member Posts: 137
    Hey Guys! I found out today via a phone call to gm cc that my LS 1500 Ext. Cab was built yesterday (4/13) in Ft. Wayne. Hey, that is 4 weeks to the day (March 16) that I placed the order with the dealer. CC said average delivery time to the dealer is 3 weeks. I certainly hope it doesn't take that long! I live in Southwest Illinois, 15 minutes from the location of the St. Louis Rams, Cardinals, and Blues so it isn't all that far from Ft. Wayne. I'll be calling the dealer on Monday or Tuesday and he will probably have a better estimate on the delivery date. Bob
  • rayt2rayt2 Member Posts: 1,208
    My father contenplating buying in Canada because of exchange rate any advantage/disadvantage in doing this. We are in upstate NY so only 5 hr drive to get there. What say you out there in the North Country??????????

    Ray T.
  • rayt2rayt2 Member Posts: 1,208
    Don't be surprised if it's on the lot next week.
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