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Thanks.
Curious if anyone is having problems with side view mirror memory positions and memory seating? When the car is in reverse, and the mirrors tilt down, when the car is returned to drive the mirrors go to the factory default position . The problem continues after the mirrors have been repeatedly re-set into the memory. Perhaps an associated problem, the memory seats do not get recalled to their position from the remote they are programed to. (lazy entry is on) The first time the dealer addressed this problem, they said they reset the memory module, however the problem continues.
I also have averaged between 17 to 18 MPG at 75 MPH on interstate driving conditions.
I have read on this board that sometimes the navigation system remains on after the car has been turned off. Mine did remain on when I first got it, but has not since. The dealer said this was "normal" as the radio can be used once the car is turned off. ???
I have not heard anything about the bluetooth phone kit. Is the Land Rover kit available as an add on or aftermarket option yet? If anyone has it, does it work well and would you recommend it?
Final question: I recently had the front windows tinted at a Land Rover dealership and was told the sun roofs could not be tinted. Has anyone else been told this and were you given a reason. I am between California and Arizona and the heat can be an issue.
Search for Bluetooth or PTI... talked about numerous times.
yep that is how i am setting the mirrors and seat. i even had the dealer program BOTH keys to the exact settings/memory when i left last time i was there as they thought "maybe i was using the wrong key". it is scheduled to go back in the shop in a week and a half.
one other thing i forgot to also ask in my last post, has any body had any trouble with the lumbar support on the drivers side seat? to me it feels as if it does not come out as far on the right side of the seat as it does on the left side, when it is rolled out to its max position. just curious, thanks.
When lazy entry is on for a specific key is works as follows:
"The memory settings are stored within Electronic Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory (EEPROM) of the memory control module each time the ignition switch is cycled from position II to position I. These are the positional values that a lazy entry request uses when the remote unlock button for that particular key is next pressed. "
I think that your deal doesn't even know this.
LR3 Seat Memory w/ Key Function:
• Set all preset seat positions 1, 2 and 3 (at this point do not worry about key function).
• Turn on the Lazy Entry option using the IP’s settings menu.
• Turn key on and select preset 1 (the one you want to program to this key), once the seat position is reached store preset 1 again. Turn key off and remove from ignition.
• Insert same key and turn back on, press preset 2 or 3 and wait until the seat travels fully to it's preset position... then press preset 1 again and wait until the seat reaches its full travel position. Turn key off and remove from ignition.
• Test function by pressing unlock one time.
This can all be done with the driver's door open and there is no need to lock and unlock the doors or start the engine.
Is what they say true? What am I supposed to do about it? My wife, needless to say, does not want to drive a car with a potentially exploding gas tank. I suppose I should have expected all of this from Land Rover. But griping doesn't fix things. So, does anyone know of an approach I could take to get to the bottom of this-- other than my making an unannounced visit to the dealer and making a controlled fit in front of his potential customers?
Courtesy link (which may stop working): http://199.79.180.163/prepos/files/Artemis/Public/Recalls/2005/V/RCDNN-05V376-1657.PDF
Yahoo also said a couple of months ago that only the RR and RR Sport would get it in '06.
Hopefully the dealer was clued in and correct so you won't be limited to aftermarket.
Steve, Host
Doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence in the fix, in this case.
Please don't be condescending; of course I read the full description. The recall document says that it is possible that "[t]he excess fuel may be discharged onto the ground."
Such a situation is, in my opinion, not simply improper operation, but extremely unsafe. If this were to happen in the presence of a spark (cigarette, bit of metal on road, etc.), there would be catastrophic consequences (the aforementioned explosion). Even without a spark, as an engineer and a lawyer, it is my considered opinion that the forceful ejection of fuel from a gas tank during operation is a very very bad thing. And, I believe, the ejection of fuel would not just happen through the purge valve, but possibly (because of the build-up of vapor behind the liquid block) could happen through a seam in the tank (or other weak spot) (again, the aforementioned explosion).
I would be less annoyed if my dealer did not know about it. My dealer does know about it; and just isn't going to do anything until forced to. Liability-wise, this is pretty short-sighted. And, the dealer says he can't do anything about it even if he wanted to -- Land Rover has not sent him any new parts.
I am not trying to be a jerk about this; my wife and kids are in the car every day. I don't have another vehicle that accommodates them all; and I am genuinely concerned (I am not griping about overpaying; or that I have a lemon; I like my car--a lot). I was merely wondering if a call to NHTSA or LAND ROVER proper would get some results; or if the dealers do have parts and aren't doling them out, but might if I really complained. Or if there is some other approach I could take, not counting renting a mini-van for a few weeks (for which I am sure LR would not reimburse me).
BTW, I was particularly perturbed that the dealer suggested that he was ordered to retrofit the UNSOLD cars first. That bothered me.
Regards,
t
Such a letter will at least document your current position, and will indicate that you're not going to be easily blown off with excuses. In all probability, you'll find that you're suddenly called in to have one of the first fixes.
Good luck.
It's funny that I -- and probably others share this trait -- am probably less forward/aggressive with car dealerships/service departments than I am in my normal jobs. It's probably because, on the one hand, we all want immediate results in our favor; but on the other hand, we understand that we want a long-term relationship, where we and our cars are treated well for years.
I think that all I really want to know now is: (a) how bad is the problem (every car in that VIN range? will I notice stalling/hesitation first? etc.) and (b) Are there really new parts available to dealers now to install or will they be available only after October 14. No use getting all agitated if the problem is not that bad/extensive and/or if there is no fix available now.
Again, thanks. My wife really loves the car, she just wants to know she'll be ok in it.
It's a safe bet Land Rover does not have enough parts now. That's a lot of fuel tanks the supplier has to produce. I have a friend that has a failing fuel pump and the fuel tank is backordered. October 14th is only the 'start' of the process; it'll take longer.
Got a call from dealer on day of pickup that rear climate control was not working. Claimed that installation of DVD system may have caused it. We wanted new vehicle for trip starting next day, so I think dealership was nervous we would kill the deal if the car was not ready the day we wanted (which we made clear to dealer ahead of time). So we took delivery with non-functional rear climate system with assurances they would repair it when we got back.
On our trip, we realized that the base climate control system would not blow any warm or hot air. The higher we set the temp, the colder and harder it blew...
Then, SRS warning light has come on two separate times. Nothing like consulting the owner's manual and having it tell you to urgently go to dealer for problem.
Vehicle is now going on 2nd day at dealer service. No luck fixing it yesterday. Had to set a special date for service so some "tech director" could be there...
Picked up LR3 loaner. Had suspension default warning light all day yesterday.
Now reading of fuel tank issues on this site, after consulting for climate control issues. Wow (no pun intended).
Cadillac dealer told me to buy 2 LR3s - so I had one when the other broke down. My family (a bunch of silly car nuts) razzed me to follow my wife when she drives it to be sure I am there to pick her up when it breaks down. I did not have the *@lls to tell them about climate control issues out of the gate.
We all love the vehicle, but this is a fairly inauspicious beginning. $3.60 gallon for premium changes situation a little, too. It seems like such an impressive job on the surface re investment in Solihull modern plant and re-engineered Disco... Proof is in the pudding, I guess.
If anyone has had rear climate control issues like this, your comments/insight are most welcome.
As I said, the LR3 is a fantastic vehicle (I had zero problems in 19,000 miles). But the gas mileage around town with stoplights is WAY worse than the 14 mpg listed on the sticker (think more like 11 mpg). Highway mileage is obviously better, but a mix of city/highway at 15-16 mpg was too difficult to take.
In many ways I miss my LR3, and I still recommend it if you don't need to drive it huge distances every day, but beware the gas mileage.
I am thinking of that or a Prius as second vehicle to mitigate my guilt ($250 per month to Exxon/Mobil and who knows how much of that to Saudi Arabia, Venezuela or others) and to compensate for premium at $3.45+ per gallon in my neck of the woods. They say it is going to come down now.... Right.
Did you have any luck getting your suspension issue resolved? I just dropped my land rover off this morning - they seemed shocked to hear of such a thing...
travelinman, that's one impressive switch... I do question why you bought the LR3 in the first place if you obviously didn't need any of it's capabilities. I don't think the A3 is in the same utility class.
Absolutely true. I got sucked in by the looks and the capabilities (which I did use on ocassion -- the mountains above Death Valley are out of reach of anything except a fairly capable 4x4.) Did I need the LR3? No. And after a lot of soul-searching (and gazing at the cash flow to gas stations), I decided to jump off. I took a (big) hit. But live and learn. When I bought it premium was $2.30 or so. I didn't quite expect gas to go up like it has. Of course, if I had expected it, I would have bought oil futures. Or stock in Chevron. Or something.
And again, the LR3 was wonderful in almost every sense of the word. A great fit for my needs? no. But.... I'm definitely glad I had 7 months with it!
Well, my dealer is quite responsive... the parts/tank are indeed back ordered, he can't tell me when they are coming, but he told me I am first in line to get the repair. Sounds like I am the only one in that dealership, so far, to bring in a car for this issue. And furthermore they are putting the existing cards ahead of the unsold cars, which of course is the obvious thing to do.
get the car they said in detailing they noticed acid on the front bumper so they took one off another lr3 , finally recd mine on 7/11/05 had the car for 3 days we had
a week of rain and I needed to wear a rain suit inside my car after weeks of calling
my husband finally got me a New lr3, after receiving the second lr3 and driving for
4 days, the suspension fault warning light comes on, I call they send a tow truck
and I'm driving a KIA for 1 week. I have this car for about 2 more weeks and then
the car seems to have trouble taking off. Thinking what else could be wrong I have
2 other people drive the car and they also experience the slow take off. They picked the car up 8/20/05 and I am still driving a loaner . They said they can't
duplicate the problem after almost 3 weeks. They are bringing my car back tomorrow. This has been a nightmare of an experience...
JBMJR
Hope you enjoy the story. When all is said and done the LR3 is a great SUV despite the 1st year issues. I also own a Defender 90 and I think that the LR3 will out manuever in situations like this one. Can't wait to give it a try in the snow this year.
Have fun!
And, just for the record, my only complaint has been about LR's unresponsiveness to my queries re: the recall. And, people on this board have rightly reminded me that 1) I don't have any symptoms, and only 1/5 of the recalled cars actually have a problem and 2) the recall doesn't officially start until October.
The vehicle itself has been great for myself and my family. My wife and kids love it. And, other than door hazing (anyone figure that out yet?), not even a hint of a problem. The truck worked great last winter in the snow for me; glad to hear it works as well in the sand.
The other two have just been random stalling and hessitation.
As for the door hazing next week I am going to get a couple of different cleaners and go out to one of the LR3's and experiment. I already have mequiars NXT cleaner and i am going to get some mother back to black if anyone else has suggestions for other types please tell me. I will clean one door panel of an LR3 with each chemical and see what works the best then report back over the next couple of weeks.
Also FYI - I just passed 6 months and 6K miles with no problems at all (knock on wood) with my black on black SE 7.
I am by no means knowledgeable when it comes to car parts and internal repairs, but I am trying to buy a new LR3 V6 model. I found the color combo that I wanted in an '05 V6 model that is 'waiting' for the recall.
Based on my interest in the car, the dealer said he would swap out a good fuel tank from an '06 HSE model that he has on the lot and put that tank on the '05 V6 that I am interested in.
Do you think this would work? I will take the dealer's word for it, but is there a change between the fuel tank parts between '05 and '06 V6 and V8 models? Could there be any safety concerns or is this a simple part switch?
Thanks in advance.
How much did you pay out the door?
Since I have only had the Truck a month, my questions is does the amount of brake dust generated go down with time?
Asked about climate control. "As far as I know it is fixed...."
I know this relates more to dealer issues, but reading this board and experiencing these issues with a brand new $50K vehicle is awfully disappointing. Still no word from dealer about fuel tank issues and reading all of these posts about that problem have me dreading the return of the vehicle. I am afraid that my electric/software issues will keep on ticking and then find out I have one of the 05's with the fuel tank issue. David's post today is scary! With all of these rants, where is the MFR with some sort of owner communication????