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Has anyone on this list done this? Would you recommend it? Will it void the factory warranty?
Now, for other countries that offer turbo diesel engines on LR3/Disco 3... it's a little different. All sorts of interesting tweaking can be done. Yes, more power and often more economy is honestly possible -- generally thanks to turbo tweaking.
Anyway, if someone claims gains are possible on the petrol engine... it's probably a scam.
And, unfortunately, the factory boys and girls also have to contend with perceived consumer demand for a quicker 0-60 mph time in setting up a vehicle. That tends to skew the formula against fuel economy. I will be very happy when the auto press finds something other than bhp, 0-60 times, and oversized wheels to tout as essential "requirements".
Granted, better results will be obtained with a diesel, and my next LR is likely to be a diesel, but it looks like we have to wait awhile longer for one in the US. I am just looking for ways to get the most out of the many years ahead with my HSE L3, which has been a real pleasure to drive.
Glad to hear you're enjoying your LR3.
Obviously I will ask the dealer to check the alignment at the 1.5K inspection. We have done a few trips over the hill to the beach on winding roads, so I could expect some wear; but I purposely set the cold pressures to 35/40psi to prevent scrubbing and roll-over.
bgsntth--- having noticeable tire wear at 750 miles is totally abnormal. Take it back to the dealer ASAP!
Roving and happy... Mark156
Britishrover... is the paint on Land Rovers thicker or better than Mercedes? My 2000 E430 sport has a few rock chips... my 2002 Mercedes ML500 (traded for LR3) had plenty of rock chips. My 2006 LR3 has NO rock chips after 14,500 miles. I hope I have not jinxed it!
Mark156
I wrote LRNA to push for full reimbursement; I received a form letter back saying that a rep would call...I have traded voicemails a couple times, but they are in no real hurry to get a hold of me. Obviously I'm not a happy LR customer. Good luck.
My 2002 ML320 had a fair amount of rock chips in about 40K miles, but wasn't as bad as other people on the ML forum made it out to be. My LR3 has only 7K miles but no chips yet either.
I can't comment on the relative merits of MB v. LR paint, but I always keep a tube of that touchup paint handy. You will need it sooner or later.
Not sure about chip resistance.
I expect to get rock chips or something as I use my LR3 for hwy driving. I really thought I would have 'something' on the front but I can't find even a small blemish. I know, I know, tomorrow is a new day.
I use 100% cotton baby diapers to 'soft-wipe' my LR down if it's not in need of a true full wash. Recently, I drove to Las Vegas when I pulled up to the valet to check in, he said "your Land Rover is so clean"... I told I had just washed it yesterday. I said, when I keep it clean, I get 40 miles to the gallon.... he looked at me and we both laughed. I like it when folks admire my vehicle.
Happy Roving! Mark156
The paint on the LR3 still looked pretty much brand new when it was traded, even after 40k miles and hundreds of runs through the local car wash with drying by the same group of people. Even at an angle in direct sunlight the paint had no rock chips, very few micro scratches in the clearcoat, and no swirl marks. The MB on the other hand has only been washed a few times and those small scratches in the clearcoat are already everywhere. Even a 100% Polymide microfiber towel manages to leave those scratches in the clearcoat.
I'd have to say the LR paint is far superior to MB, regardless of how much MB sings the praise's of its new "nano-particle" paint.
Tires seem to be the only problem I hear recurring. You hear one off stories but as far as consitent issues it seems to be that the rear tires will wear out fast.
I absolutely love the vehicle. Went down a road that was a sheet of ice with the Hill Decent control feature and it was amazing. Off road great, on road great. its got a great manual trans feature that I think works better than others and gets alot out of the Jaguar v8 engine.
I am happy so far. So thats what I know.
In my driving days, I have owned a Ford Explorer, Jeep Grand Cherokee, a P38 Range Rover, and now an LR3. They were all pretty good vehicles to own and drive. I didn't think the maintenance on any of them was excessive although you wouldn't get that impression from some of the posts on these forums. Remember also that these forums have a lot in common with restaurant reviews--you're more likely to hear from someone who had a bad experience than all the rest of the visitors who have no problems.
Is this a true 7 passenger vehicle? Can 7 average people comfortably spend a few hours in the car?
Thanks!
The LR3 can fit 7 average to above average size adults comfortably.
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The GL does handle twisty roads a little better then the LR3 and that is mainly because the LR3 weighs several hundred pounds more then the GL.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
No one will confirm or deny this rumor.
Stories like this make me think it is true as well...
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http://www.autoblog.com/2006/06/19/fords-f-150-to-get-diesel-power/
Initially had some tire wear due to a Tongue and grove type washer which was unable to hold the wheels to the axle (front) resulting in too much free play. Land Rover has came up with a better design and more stronger washer. This has certainly reduced the Tire wear to normal.
I have had NO issues with my tyres, they are wearing evenly. I am getting a little more noise out of them from when they were new but I have lots and lots of tread left.
The Mercedes GL came out about the same time I was looking at the LR3. My past experience with Mercedes (2002 ML500) was mediocre and I was not excited about the styling of the GL... looks boring. The LR3 has a distinctive look... much nicer!
Mark156
Just to follow-up with the resolution to this issue. I took it to the dealer, who determined from the DOT # that the tires were suppossed to be on an '05 LR3, not an '06, such as mine. They also determined that the alignment was fine, but that the tires had the equivalent of 30K miles of wear on them. My 6 week old LR3 has 1.5K miles on it right now-hmmm?. After some not to happy back and forth the dealer is going to be replacing the front tires. How this came to be is, and probably will remain, a mystery. I always do a pre-delivery check on my cars, but never even thought to check if the tires were new too. I unfortunately did not notice this until I had the wheel cranked to one side, when parked, with the full tire exposed. Hence, my initial post.
1.8 inches more head room in the second row of the LR3 then the GL450 42.4 vs 40.6 inches.
1.9 inches more head room in te third row of the LR3 then the GL450 40.1 vs 38.2 inches.
THe GL does have a couple of more inches of leg room in the second row but since it is almost 10 inches longer I would hope it would.
Leg room in the third row is 36.3 inches for the LR3 vs 34.2 inches in the GL450.
I didn't find the seats in the GL450 any more comfortable then the LR3 seats. The GL does have a more ritzy interior, with more wood and more leather but you have to pay for that. A base GL450 without a moonroof or leather interior starts where a fully loaded LR3 finishes at the mid 50k range.
I did a quick review of the GL when we took one in trade back last spring. This was one of the first ones in the country so no one had really seen it yet when they bought it. They traded it in after about 1,600 miles IIRC.
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As the title said, I went to lease a brand new 06 LR3 on 2/6/07. After a week of ownership, I suspect body work on both passenger side doors. I talked to the sales and he told me the car is brand new and it is impossible to have any damage. I felt that I am fooled by the dealer so I went to inspect the car by a professional body shop and they proved to me both door were repainted. The latest from the dealer last week is that they are just going to offer to repair the door damage, which they deny to me in the beginning. I consider this is serious Business FRAUD and I want to terminate the lease because the dealer lies to me in the very beginning. I have given enough time for the dealer to resolve this problem and they failed to take and appropriate responsibility.
Long story short, "Do Not Buy Cars from Land Rover South Bay, CA" or any of their sisters company (AutoNation, Power AutoGroup). I already open a case with LRNA Case # 6909088 and LABBB Case#98179619.
Please help to spread the word to the public because I do not want anyone becomes a victim like me. Buying or Leasing a new car shouldn't turn out to be a bad experience like mine.
Thanks for reading.
BC_LR3
Naturally I can get one of these on a severe discount. I probably wouldn't even consider an 07 paying near full price. A few observations or questions....
1. I noticed from a stop that there was a 1 second hesitation before it took off after I depressed the accelerator. Is this a product of a Rover?
2. It is built like a tank, I agree with that. But I was surprised it wasn't a bit more refined. I know people buy LR3s for its 4wd and offroad capability but I expected a bit more luxury for $50k. It does have some nice amenities...don't get me wrong. One quick example is the climate control. Maybe it is just me but in this price range, I expect digital readouts of temperatures and not having to turn a dial to select temp. It just seems like something you would see in a pre-2002 vehicle.
3. What options/extras come in handy? The one I drove had the climate control but nothing else. No NAV, no Sat radio. Will I have remorse for not getting it "macked out"?
Anyway, I really liked it and I certainly didn't eliminate it from consideration. Any input would be greatly appreciated. :confuse:
As you come to know the vehicle, you will realize that they spent a huge amount of time thinking about the workings and tactile feel of just about everything in the vehicle. The temperature knobs are like that so you instinctively know how to use them. Try using the temperature controls on a Porsche - you have to look pause a second and think about how it works - not so with the LR3 controls.
The hesitation is not normal, but I believe that it was corrected with a software update - check with your dealer.
I ordered the wood package with mine as it seemed to upscale it a bit more, and makes it just that little bit more refined. I have a Silver on Black, and the walnut trim looks spectacular.
I love my SatNav. I originally thought it was a bit of fluff, but it comes in handy whenever I'm driving in a rea where I'm not completely familiar with the road. I also got mine with the towing package, Heavy Duty package, and an after-market dual-screen DVD system for the second row passengers (dealer-installed).
I also have the rubber floor mats and the soft load space protector. Definitely get this.
Knobs on the climate control--agree with recent post-the round knobs are great. i feel i dont need to look at the knob to adjust. its better than the digital read out.
There is a TSB on the delay and I think the software update takes care of it. I had that same problem, and now its gone at 15K so they must have taken care of it.
I like the biege alpaca interior with the black floor mats. I felt the same as you at first about its refinement then I drove the new X5 and X3 and felt Lrover was a better deal in that category.
take the think on a downhill slope on an icey road or through mudd and use HDC and terrain response and you will be laughing at those that bought other vehicles. Yes it could have a more refined look inside but overall i feel i am in a better vehicle.
Im at 15,5000 miles and only have premature tire wear on the rear tires but not as bad as i expected
IMHO, for Land Rover to take the position that the tires have a life of merely 30K miles because the vehicle is so "heavy" is ludicrous. I've owned several other LR products and Chevy Tahoes with 50K+ on tires with no wear problems whatsoever. But then again, they did not have the self adjusting air suspension, which I bet a dollar to a donut is the root of the problem.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
So far, with 33K there is no sign of unveven wear.
I mentioned in an earlier post that my LR3 arrived from the factory with 5-6 PSI over-inflation in each tire. That wasn't something I was expecting, but it wasn't right. Most drivers who don't check regularly are usually riding around 10% under-inflated, and that will cause premature tire wear.