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'The engine, too, is an ideal foil for the excellence of the chassis. Known internally as the EA888, the 2.0-liter, four-cylinder engine uses a turbocharger and direct injection to develop 217 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque. Volkswagen estimates a 0-62-mph sprint of 6.5 seconds.
Newly optional is a Performance Pack that bumps output to 227 hp along with the addition of bigger brakes and a torque-sensing limited-slip differential.'
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Seriously, please send any advice y'all have as I want this to go as smooth as possible to keep the wife happy with an unhappy situation, in her eyes. I really loved that Verano today...pure luxury, at least to this econobox driver and would purchase one in a heartbeat if all the ducks line up perfectly!
The Scared Sandman :confuse: :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
This came up in the summer, so if I may quote myself:
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f10df0b/309#MSG309
Also, 10k is nuts. But with a Civic, anything is possible, I guess....
Good luck,
-Mathias
I don't like the idea of strangers knowing where I live. Maybe silly in this day of info at the finger tips but it would make me feel a little better.
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
BMW has some good deals, but the only new Bimmers I would actually want to own all sticker for north of $40,000...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
That... is a great deal...
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I didn't notice that until you mentioned it because I couldn't get past the milage but I never understood that concept. Why would you install HIDs and then dim them with tint?
Speaking of stupid I am watching a local news story about a new concept "dogYoga".
Yeah it looks as stupid as it sounds.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
You will definitely get calls from "brokers" who want to market your car for a price. Stine13s advice to doctor your phone number may thwart these guys but could also raise suspicion because altered phone #s are the hallmark of curbstoners who try to hide multiple cars. It's a pain but tell the brokers to take a hike and assure the legit buyers that your not Vinnie's used car lot.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
test drove the base ILX...very nice but too much like my Civic and they want stupid money for it, so it's out. Did the Verano again at a different dealer who played the numbers game trying to confuse me so I walked out. If I do purchase, plan to wait on the gray '14 demo at the nearby store and get that unit. He said it will have 3k on it when I can buy it and they will match Carmax's price and let me put $8k on the credit card. But plan to sell the car on my own before I do buy I think...gonna tweak the ad and lower the price and then see what happens. It's a really nice vehicle and just needs the back bumper reskined with a bumper cover to look brand new as the rest of the paint is flawless. Again, this will only work if everything falls into place. And something tells me it will...that Verano is really nice...really nice! I am smitten right now!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
mostly though, not sure I trust that much power going through a CVT,,,
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Not sure about the CVT either, but I do know the WRX is a very important car for Subaru, so they took their time & wanted to get it right.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
My 84 Corvette sold in 36 hours and it wasn't in that great of shape. Probably priced too low so your advice to wait a bit before dropping is valid. I've seen sellers on CL drop price 10% a week or two until they sold. Usually by the third drop the ad is gone.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
For that matter, I don't see that many base ILX's either, think most go for the one's with the Tech package and from what the internet guy told me, there are no gray one's to be had right now in the southeast region and all they have are the silver and white, both over black. Not my favorite combo's and even though it drove o k with the 2.0 engine, it wasn't that much different than my current Civic. The ILX has the sunroof, leatherette seats and the back up camera but still feels like a dressed up Civic and they want more than the Verano. I also think the Buick guys will do more to earn my business price wise also. And I really would be super happy to buy a domestic again after so many years.
So we will just see what happens now...short of putting a "For Sale" sign on my vehicle, i will just have to sit back and wait. hopefully Carmax will still stay at their $7k figure if I end up selling it to them. Would rather do private so I could leave the alloys on and keep the amp in it as it's gonna cost some bucks to remove that amp and put the steelies and hubcaps back on...would rather someone come along and but it as is and they can also have the steelies and hubcaps free as they are still sitting in the garage. i just want this done already! Also, I wish i knew how to post a few pics in Craigslist but have no clue. have asked a few friends on FB but so far have gotten no responses as I know pics would really help the ad!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
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Craigslist hosts like 12 for free.
So please, any help on the ad would be greatly appreciated!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Swapping out the wheels might give a little profit. The stereo will be tougher - it won't add much value, but used stereo components don't bring much, the labor to remove might make it a losing deal.
You can also repost your ad every 48 hours I think, might keep it looking "fresh", especially if you modify the wording.
So right now I just do nothing, except add some pics to my ad and wait. The wife just told me again it's dumb to sell a perfectly good vehicle and spend the $ on something new...and logically and financially she's correct. But I just want to do it...and all you guys understand this I know...it's something I just can't put into words here.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
In my zip code Edmunds says a 2006 Civic LX sedan with 47k in "good" condition is worth about $7300 private party.
In south Florida they're asking almost that with twice your milage. But asking ain't "getting".
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/cto/4127563634.html
I agree that pictures are an absolute necessity on Craigslist. I don't know how to post them either. I was all set to ask my kids to show me on the last car but it sold before I had to go to CL.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
And yeah, it's not dumb - maybe dumb to wifey, but she's not into cars. Different people have different priorities. You are into cars. I am sure she does things you think are dumb, too - not that you'd say it, of course I'll skip a statement made by dopey people these days about how many times you live, but say I sometimes agree with it. You can't take it with you.
For the Buicks, I think the Verano is 100x better looking than the Encore.
But you have had (at least for the last 2 decades or longer) cars with good sound as part of the OEM factory package. Some things you don't miss unless you don't have it. Honda audio systems are dreadful. Without exaggeration, they were better 20 years ago...or for certain..15 years ago.
Audio is one thing that NA cars seem to do better from the factory going back to about the mid 80s and forward. It happened when some behind-the-desk actually earned their paycheck when the light bulbs came on that OEM factory stereos were crap and everybody knew and those who cared...anyone under the age of about 60..replaced the OEM system with capable aftermkt stuff. Sometimes this was arranged before the car even left the OEM selling dealership! So they rightfully decided to start offering better sounding OEM audio and sometimes charging marginally more for even upgraded amps and speakers from the factory. Why let an obvious profit-potential get out of their grasp? And around about 1989 is when Toyota (and other Asian cos) came out with their newest generation Cressida. It was 89 for Toyota, but others where all within about a year or two also, and they totally revamped OEM car audio. I remember an old GF's 92 Grand Am had...comparatively speaking..a killer stock sound system compared to even Honda's Accord of the same year.
But those were the good old days for Honda (and other Asian product) and certain NA builds still too...they think some of us are idiots and don't notice how bad it can sound...(thinking of a 2014 Ram 1500 relatively base truck here with two speakers..gawd-awful sounding compared to a GM and probably Ford too even 10 years ago..)
I had a 2003 Toyota/GM Matrix that actually had the GM type audio in it, but you could tell that Toyota had painted the amp with the cheap-it-up-they-won't-notice brush. But it got worse! By 2005, they had cheapened the audio to the point were they were using Corolla audio in it. And it sounded it too They think we are stupid and don't notice. And it is truly idiotic on their part. If some Asian brand like Subaru (who needs it more than any other) came along and let it be known that they are now putting killer audio in even their base cars (with an actual cost per car to them at only about $35.00-$65.00..yes, good audio at the numbers in which cars are sold really is that cheap...huge profit margins..) I guarantee you there would be a huge demographic would actually switch to Subaru because the audio was enough to tip the scales to give them a try. I could say the same about Suzuki altho it is much too late now. You should have heard the crap audio Suzuki was using in their SX4 when I was shopping for the Matrix. It made the Matrix system sound like Harmon Kardon. And again...where did that level of cheapness get them? It got them closing doors in the US and Cda...no surprise there...idiots..
Now granted...of course it takes more than just crap audio to cause the demise of a brand offering in a country that imports, but all the cheap-tries add up...I guess they had to pay for all the airbags, ABS and rear disc rotors somehow..
For the record and a reference comparo to help interpret my comments, I have heard the sound system in a Base Cruze back in the summer of 2012. While it was an ergonomic distaster to adjust, but at least when you got it adjusted, it really could rock the hell outta the car. For contrast, just walk the smae CD over to the Honda or Toyota dealership..and you see what I mean. So I am not surprised that Buick has not taken the cheap route with the audio in a Verano. Factor in the extra quiet ride so that the clarity of the audio can really come through, I can easily see how that could be the last thing that helps a purchaser decide on it vs other considerations.
My brother has a Verano. He loves it and it has been pretty reliable. I don't know what paid, but I know he got a decent deal even when they first hit the lots. Solid little car, he calls it my Lacrosse's "Mini Me"
As for car audio, most 'base" systems aren't that great. I've had the branded premium audio in most of my recent cars. Overall, it's been pretty good. The JBL in the Toyotas was crisp and loud with decent bass and the Lexicon in my Genesis was awesome. The Harman Kardon in the Buick is OK, but a bit boomy with the bass (not in a good way). I'll tell what were some pretty nice systems (for the time) was Ford's JBL. My 89 LTC had an impressive factory system as did other Ford products.
I just installed a "system' in my 04 Grand Marquis. I bought a really nice Pioneer double size NAV unit, four Infinity 6x8 speakers and ran it through an older Alpine amp. Crystal clear and sounds better than most higher end factory systems. When I get a chance, I'm going to add a small sub just so the other speakers don't have to work as hard.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Yeah, I remember the 1990 CRX Si my dad bought had no factory radio. They were prewired for the radio and speakers from the factory, but the radio was a dealer installed accessory, as was the retractable radio antenna, which extended from the A-pillar of the car. My dad did the smart thing and installed an aftermarket system.
Speaking of car audio, if anyone else has an inactive SirusXM receiver, they're doing a free preview for the next week or two, so you should be able to listen for free. I love Alt Nation, but not quite enough to pay for it.
I've learned recently you can't even assume that cuz a CD may sound good, the FM tuner part can sound really inadequate (thinking 2012 Optima EX) even in strong radio signal areas. The idea being that it is just a cheap crap tuner and again...we're not suppose to notice I guess..
I have no idea, my ears aren't that good. Some of the songs on SiriusXM sound slightly different than the iTunes version, I'm not sure if they're edited differently or what.
Plus I listen to a lot of Pandora streaming audio (~128 kbits/sec encode on the computer) and cached Slacker stations in the car (~40 kbits/sec encode).
I think you may have priced your Civic too high. Did you check out Edmunds TMV? It's a helpful guideline. Kbb is also good.
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
If anyone can understand this, it is probably all of us on this forum. My F.I.L. used to say, "do you need it or want it?"
Believe me, WE understand (and are all vicariously contemplating it with you).
I dunno 'bout that...sandman has gotten my hopes up so many times, it's been almost torturous during the many change-of-minds for this vicarious one..
He's in a conundrum that only a car purchase will cure. Too bad you guys don't get the Kia Rondo down there. It would be absolutely perfect for his ingress/egress, and bad back. The seats are terrific, it has pretty good visibility, has a pretty good stock stereo. Short enough to fit in his garage. Relatively good value allround which we know would help appease Mrs Sandman too..and if she boots him to the curb when he comes home from buying it, has enough room to stretch out and sleep in in the driveway for a few nights till she better gets used to the idea! lol
All that said tho..it is cool to read that he has finally decided on the Verano. Now it's just a matter of finding the perfect buyer for hi$ Civic.
So, I will continue to see if I can sell the Civic and when I finally get that check, I will invest it but leave enough liquid so I can do this or just pay off any small loan I take out. And if I wait till 2016 as was the original plan, and which I keep getting thrown into my face, then I'll do it then...but it won't be that long, trust me. When confronted earlier, I just said that "I've changed my mid here" and left it at that...and now I left it at I'm going to do what I think is right "for me"...period...I have closed the discussion!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)