There is an auction on ebay for a "Mazdaspeed" intake system for the 06' MSP6. According to the seller this product just came out. I think the seller is a Mazda dealer. Does anyone have any info on this?
Thanks for the info. I knew that AEM made a CAI, but the seller on ebay was making the claim of the CAI being a MAZDASPEED product, which is covered by Mazda warranty for 12mths/12K.
All true, it says mazdaspeed right on it and the guys selling it are Mazda dealers. Probably worth a few more bucks to the have the Mazdaspeed name when you open the hood. Do a search on mazda6club. There are posts about the intake itself from the guys selling and others who bought it.
Mazdaspeed makes a ton of performance products for most of the Mazda line. Price is a bit steep. Mazda lists the Mazdapseed CAI for the Mazda6 at $600...ouch. However, they are warrantied. Same cannot be said for AEM.
The Mazdaspeed CAI (GRMS-8M-H32) lists for $375.00 and it's not a re-labeled AEM product. AEM may have partnered with Mazda but you can bet that the specs on the MS product are more stringent than anything developed soley by AEM.
Like I said, worth a few more bucks to have the Mazdaspeed name when you open the hood. If AEM makes it, it's still a re-labled AEM, but with added quality control by Mazda. Kind like the Isuzu Rodeo rebadged as the Honda Passport. It just makes the AEM less likely to light up a CEL. You had to figure that Mazda at least checked it before slapping its name it. If they actually spec'd it and checked it, they saved AEM some development costs.
My understanding of re-labeling is taking an existing product and putting a new brand name on it. In fact, the MS CAI was developed for Mazda and is not a product AEM can offer under its branding.
Funny, 'cause people who saw it immediately said "re-branded AEM." How different do you think it could be? Would AEM make it and then say "Okay, we can't sell a CAI which is the same product we developed for Mazda. We better shred everything we learned in making this product to Mazda specs and develop another one that will be more likely to throw a CEL."
I don't have the licensing agreement in my back pocket but it's not uncommon for an OEM to require that any joint engineering not be used for the supplier's exclusive products.
Yeah, and it could be more likely than not that they are identical. Mazda knows that people value the Mazdaspeed name and the warranty (as far as it goes), so why bother.
I think you have the wrong part number, the Mazdaspeed CAI for the Mazdaspeed6 is RAMS-8M-H09
I got that directly from the Mazdaspeed Performance Accessories 2006 booklet, and my parts dept. MSRP is around $600. I will double check on Monday if that is correct.
The part number I posted is correct. The part number you posted was in the brochure but due to a warranty change, was replaced with the number I posted. If you do an availabilty inquiry, it should give you GRMS-8M-H32.
Check out this thread on the AEM CAI and effect on turbulence/flow due to the lack of machining in a chamfer at the joint near the MAF. The guy who did the calculations says there is absolutely no difference between the AEM and Mazdaspeed. He might be wrong but no one has said otherwise yet. I think this explains why the Mazdaspeed doesn't cost twice as much as the AEM as one would expect. I bet they did nothing except test it for CELs and slap a Mazdaspeed sticker on it.
Thanks to those who have posted about prices paid. It has helped out a lot to get my mind in the right ballpark pricewise.
I'm looking to buy an MS6 Sport in the next few weeks in the New England area. If anyone has bought any MS6 in the past month please post where and how much over or under invoice.
Anyone hear anything about Manufacturers rebates? Or is that wishful thinking on this type of car?
A Seattle-based friend of mine recently did a 2 year lease on an MS6 GT based on a $2k below invoice purchase price. Edmunds shows that $2k lease incentive as the only valid one for my zip code at least.
Here in Dallas, there is a dealer that advertises $4k off sticker but includes the lease requirement, and another that advertises $3.5k off sticker for the Sport and $4k off sticker for the GT with no lease mentioned.
Fitzmall in Maryland is all over the place on MS6 pricing but the best they have listed is around $500 under invoice.
To answer my own question, it looks like those are the new incentives available thru 8/31. The Mazda site still shows the old ones, but Edmunds is now showing the $500 + $500 or $500 + financing offers.
This may have been asked before and I missed it but here goes.
My heart is set on an '07 Mustang GT (dreamed of owning a Mustang V8 for a loooooong time) when my '04 Mazda6 S MTX lease expires in March 2007. However, we have two small boys, 2 and 5 months, and we are looking to buy a new house soon which may squash my plans for the Mustang again unfortunately.
Anyway, I told the wife I'd "settle" for a MAZDASPEED6 or MAZDASPEED3 if worse comes to worst because they are easily less money than the Mustang either by lease or purchase (can't lease a Mustang GT cheap at all these days). My question is, has anyone come out of a V6 Mazda6 and jumped into a MAZDASPEED6? Is it like night and day in a good way? Is the SPEED6 worth the extra cash? i.e. will I notice the difference?
Sounds like the SPEED3 will be faster, may handle better, cost less, and get better gas mileage. The AWD in the 6 is a definite plus here in the NE though.
I want everyone's thoughts on this please. The growl of the Mustang is too hard to pass up and I need some serious positive reinforcement if I have to change course if you know what I mean. :sick: The RX-8 is another option if the lease rates are right but that's another thread.
Here's my two cents: If your heart is really set on the Mustang, you won't be happy with anything else.
If you're still deciding, then there are some advantages with the Speed6. The AWD as you mentioned, plus four doors, which should be consideration if you're going to use the car to transport your children. When your lease is up, they will still be in infant car seats (which are bigger and bulkier) and will be more work to get in and out of the two-door Mustang. If you plan to play taxi on a regular basis, you will appreciate the easier access of four doors.
With the Speed3, you get the added bonus of the hatchback which will make it even easier to get strollers and other baby gear (man, there is a lot!) in and out of the vehicle. I would suggest that you bring your children's strollers with you for a test drive to see how they fit in the trunk, regardless of which car you choose.
If you don't plan to transport your kids, then by all means go for the Mustang and figure out a way to convince the missus! Since the Speed6 is relatively new and the Speed3 will be brand-spanking new, there may not be much room to negotiate the selling price (not sure how that works with a lease).
Just to cloud your decision further...if you're looking for a sporty four-door with a turbocharged engine and AWD, why not consider a Legacy GT? Its performance is very close to the Speed6 and you may be able to finagle a better deal.
Good luck!
Greg
Sidenotes: I have driven neither the 6 nor Speed6, so I can't really comment on the difference in performance. I'm very curious about how you have children aged two and five months. Did you mean years? If the kids are older, it would be easier for them to climb in-and-out of the back seat of the Mustang.
I did go from an '02 Altima SE (240hp V-6). After I drove it I swore I'd never go back to a 4-cyl. V-6 growl is very cool, power is great, etc., etc. Got the MS6 and now I will not go back to a N/A engine. I love it turbo acceleration. Sure, when you're not on boost, it's pretty humdrum (pretty much just at idle), at least w/stock exhaust. But on boost, it is such a rush. The MS6 is great and doesn't have the "starter car" image problem that some (like my wife) disdain so much. But, if that's not a problem, you don't mind FWD understeer, and you don't need AWD due to climate, I'd say wait for an MS3. Plenty of space for kids (one 2 yr. old and one 5 mos. old, right?), strollers, etc. Try getting strollers and something else large-ish in a midsize sedan's trunk. Not always possible and never easy. Hatch? Much easier. The only variable I see is if you were somehow able to get an MS6 Sport for LESS than an MS3 Sport. I'm assuming you're looking at the MS6 Sport since the MS6 GT is more than the Mustang GT per Edmunds.
Anyway, since you're not off your lease for awhile, wait for the MS3 and test drive it. If there are still any bargain '06 MS6's by then, test drive one of them. Like the previous poster suggested, definitely bring your strollers for a test fit. You can't go wrong, IMHO
I got my sport about 5 weeks ago. I got it for 26k which was 2,810.00 below Sticker. Includes Auto dim mirror w/compass, wheel locks, cargo net. I think you get it lower. Just depends how bad the dealer wants to sell one. At the end of the month is a good time. Towards the end of the year you should see rebates for it. Just depends how many they still have out there for sell. Good luck..
I have had a 03 mustang mach 1 and test drove a mazda 6 and now own a madzaspeed6. The Mach1 has about the same Hp as the new mustangs. My advice... I would pick the Mustang if it is just me myself enjoying the car. There is no room if you plan on carrying kids or plan on taking a family trip in one. Love the low end torque of the stang. nothing feels great like a muscle car. I also wanted a GTO. Who can pass up on a 400hp car? The only bad thing is that I see so many mustangs on the road now. I like to drive something that is rare to see.
If you are looking for speed and room for a family then the speed6 would be my choice and it was. I don't haeva family but I love the fact and have truck space and easy access to the back seats if I need to carry somethign there too. Has a nice ride and has the power and the fun to drive all in one. Plus you have AWD when you need it..this helps if you live in snow areas. I had to leave my stang on the side of the road when I was caught out when it snowed. The only drawback I think is the MPG and the fact you have to use 93 octane. Not a big deal but if you are worried about gas mileage then look elsewhere. I'm getting about 18-19 city and 25-26 highway. Not the worst but not the best either. the Reg. 6 is fun to drive but not close to the fun of the speed6. I think the reg 6 lacks in power in the low range but you get better gas milage.
My advice would be to do your research, test drive, compare and compare again. Weigh the factors and you can't go wrong when it comes time to buy.
I'm very curious about how you have children aged two and five months. Did you mean years? If the kids are older, it would be easier for them to climb in-and-out of the back seat of the Mustang.
Yes, one is 2 YEARS old and the other is 5 months old. They will be 3 years old and 13 months old when my lease is up on the 6. The 2 yr old already climbs in and out of his car seat in both our Explorer and Mazda6 so I am factoring that into the Mustang decision already.
Thanks everyone for your comments so far. I've already done a lot of research so far and need some real world views to go with it.
No one out there who traded a V6 Mazda6 in for a MAZDASPEED6?
Whatever we replace the 6 with next March is by no means our primary vehicle as we have an '06 Explorer for that. I use the 6 to get to and from work, twisty back roads of course, and pick the kids up from daycare which is less than one mile from our house. We also use it occasionally on the weekends for short trips when we know no gear has to come along and we won't be bringing any back. To give you a gauge of how much this secondary vehicle is used, the 6 is now 28 months old and I just surpassed 13k miles. Although they were all really fun miles! The next vehicle will be used in the same capacity but Mazda is making this decision more complicated as they keep introducing several very desireable cars.
The Mazda site incentives are listed now, and it also shows a sweet 24-month lease price for a dealer-stock Mazdaspeed 6 Sport: $269/mo. + $2,544 due at signing. To compare that, they also have an offer for a Mazda 5 Sport that comes out to the same number, $9K total over 2 years. Which would you rather have?
One question I have for GT owners: Does the enhanced start system have remote start (Mazda site says "Yes," but some posters imply "No"), and more importantly, also remote shutoff? I would like to use the remote shutoff as a poor-man's turbo timer, to let the turbo spool down just a little bit more before turning it off.
I always thought the remote start was like it says. You can start the car from standing outside..NOPE.. The remote start means that there is a key chain fob that kinda looks like a oversized credit card. It has a lock, unlock button and a little key neatly hidden in the card. There is a little button on the door handle on the car. When you have the remote in your pocket then you can unlock and lock the doors with the button on the door without pulling out the keys. Also there is a key stub already in the ignition switch and you can just hop in the car turn it to start the car without reaching for any keys. The best thing about it is that you can't lock your keys in the car. I have no idea why they didn't include it on the sport model. But it wasn't enough to get me to buy a GT just for that. I would suggest you test drive a sport and a GT. I think the cloth seats are more comfortable than the leather. Notice the headroom you have without the sunroof. I'm very happy with the sport...The remote key would be nice though. Oh and a trip computer would be really sweet too.... Check both out.. If you have the $$$ Get it loaded with the nav. For me the cheaper the better and the sport has been great for the money.
Thank much, that solves the model choice for me. Seems we may like the same attributes: headroom and comfortable cloth and good $$ deal ($26-27K is pedestrian-loaded Accord/Camry territory--a bargain for a hot rod AWD MS6). To me, it's also attractive to reduce the number of electric gizmos that will break in the long run (heated seats, mirrors, power seats, power sunroof).
The new camery looks pretty sharp. Don't know what the spec are though. I also consided the Legacy GT. I read the Subie was quicker but couldn't touch the MS6 in the turns. the only thing I wish mine had was a trip computer. I think none of the Mazda 6's have it. most other sedans do. No car is perfect. Feel free to ask any questions. I will answer the best I can.
If you do not mind automatic transmission then Legacy GT wagon cannot be beaten as a family car. If manual is a must there is always Outback XT (please do not ask me what I think about Subaru's way of making options available
MazdaSpeed3, even hatchback, may not have enough space for 2 kids in the back and their stuff in the trunk.
It is very good idea to go shopping with kids' strollers.
I got a couple quotes from dealers in the area and the 2006 Mazda Mazdaspeed6 Sport is selling for $1000 below dealer invoice! The 2007 will not be out until October. For a 2006 Sport: $28,555 MSRP $26,393 Invoice -$1,000 Incentive/Rebate =$25,393 + tax, tags, etc. Sweet!!
The turbo is both water- and oil-cooled. Per many a thread on mazda6club.com turbo timers are therefore not needed. A minute of quiet running is all that is needed if you've only just finished thrashing it. Otherwise, no worries.
Great news on the turbo, thanks. A friend had an old Plymouth Laser turbo whose turbo was water-cooled and at 140K miles with no special care, the turbo was still running fine. Then I watched about 15 years go by and no mainstream manufacturer introduced a water-cooled turbo, which puzzled me.
Good luck on your MS6 sport... I don't know how experienced you are in the car buying game. I found some good articles on the net about buying a new car. I think it was on Edmonds if I remember right. I got my sport for 26k which I thought was a good buy. The sticker was 28,810 plus they had a add on sticker for a adjusted market value of $995 more. I guess if someone comes along willing to pay full price for one heck why not try to get another 1k out of them.
I would recommend the following... Test drive the Sport and the GT. Drive them on the Interstate or Highway and some busy streets and maybe go through a neighberhood. This way you get more driving time in to make sure thats what you want. Don't buy on the first visit unless they sale it for what you want to give for it. They will call you if they can get a sale which means the price you want. Go towards the end of the month. They always want sales at the end of the month. Check out your Credit Union or bank or even online for a good APR. They tried to offer 7.9 for 72 months. I got 6.25% at the CU. I had a cheat sheet with me when I went with what payments will be after taxes and tags etc... They always give you the price in the form of the monthly payment. This is where your cheat sheet comes in. Always look at all the numbers before you sign. I have been told sometimes they put some added costs in and hope you don't catch it..
Well anyway you probably know all of that.. Just sharing info. on my experience. Good luck, let us know how you do...
Thanks for the buying advice, I do need it, especially your "try it out and walk away" advice, which gives the necessary pause when we're in buying fever.
One pricing option is to take the incentive lease, and buyout at lease end. The total comes to $26,5K, assuming $300 acquisition fee and no other fees and no other options. Pretty good without any dickering at all.
I would never lease a car. But that is just me. If you buy way of a lease, make sure there is no ballon payment at the end of the lease. Also on most leases you can only drive so many miles a year if you go over then you pay extra and i think they have to do all the service work..oil changes..etc.. I don't know if you have to pay for that either.
When I first test drove the MS6. I wanted it!!!! I was close to getting it until I found out the APR they was going to give me and the amount on my trade-in. I did my research so I knew they could do better. They tried to keep me there trying to get me to buy today. They came at me at different angles trying and trying but it all came down to the same price at the end. They even was going to let me take the car home for the night and see if they could get more for my trade-in. I don't think they would like it if I put 100-200 miles on the car. I wouldn't buy a spanken new car with more than 50 miles on it. Oh and make sure you get the color you want. They should be able to ship one in from another dealership at no cost. I got the Grey..love it...
After the first test drive I offered them 26k for the car off the bat and they said OK, but they wasn't going to give me a good trade-in value for my car and a good APR like I said before. So I don't see why you can't get one for 26-26.5k with any problems.
After a few days the saleman called and offered me 2k more on my trade and I was happy. I went back to the dealership and test drove again. But a GT this time to see the diffence.. to me the sport was more comfortable and had more headroom and there is no difference in the performance than the GT. just the leather and sunroof and the advance keyless which you can see when you check the cars out.
But be honest with the salesman first time you go and say your looking to buy a MS6 but not today..hey you are being honest but you know he is going to try and sale you one today, and when he does then you can say I said I wasn't buying today. One other thing also... when he keeps going back and forth from the manager and he takes way more than a few minutes..get up and walk around.. They are most likely trying to get you impatient and tied of waiting to get you to give in and buy the car... You will see what I mean when you go.... I can go on and on... The main thing research, research, research......Hopefully more MS6 owners will share there experiences on here with you.
Quick update from my earlier post about 2006 MazdaSpeed6 pricing. www.fitzmall.com is selling the MS6 Grand Touring (with Navi) for $1519 below factory invoice! Dealers are obviously cutting into their holdback to move the 2006's out.
Not sure how it compares, but dealer near me (holidayautomotive.com) is posting prices nearly $6000 below MSRP. Their Speed6 sale prices are at $22,998 to $25,498.
Holy Guacamole!! It is true! I called Holiday Automotive & spoke to the new Mazda salesguy. Apparently there is a $1000 "regional" rebate + $500 MAC if you finance thru Mazda and on top of everything, Mazda is doing an "added bonus" of $2,000 if a dealership hits a certain number of units by a certain date ONLY on the MazdaSpeed6 models.
$23k is truly an incredible price for a Japanese high performance AWD sports sedan w/ 4-yr, 50k mile warranty!!
I recently looked at the inventory with 50 miles of me (which includes Holiday) on mazdausa.com and about 1/3 of the supply all Mazda6 cars were speed6. So they have piled up, at least around here.
I have gotten lazy and am going for an automatic myself, so not looking at speed6.
I recenly put in some coolant into my car a couple weeks ago. I checked the coolant today and it turned orange. What could it be? is it rust? 2nd my oil on the dipstick is a little past the MAX mark..will it hurt my engine? and lastly i'm getting very low power in third gear..what could be the cause of that? I would appriciate any advise anyone can give me. My car has 15,000 miles on it only.
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I knew that AEM made a CAI, but the seller on ebay was making the claim of the CAI being a MAZDASPEED product, which is covered by Mazda warranty for 12mths/12K.
That's about what I paid for my first car.
-juice
$600 for a pipe and filter, i don't get it.
I got that directly from the Mazdaspeed Performance Accessories 2006 booklet, and my parts dept. MSRP is around $600. I will double check on Monday if that is correct.
I'm looking to buy an MS6 Sport in the next few weeks in the New England area. If anyone has bought any MS6 in the past month please post where and how much over or under invoice.
Anyone hear anything about Manufacturers rebates? Or is that wishful thinking on this type of car?
Here in Dallas, there is a dealer that advertises $4k off sticker but includes the lease requirement, and another that advertises $3.5k off sticker for the Sport and $4k off sticker for the GT with no lease mentioned.
Fitzmall in Maryland is all over the place on MS6 pricing but the best they have listed is around $500 under invoice.
Hope this helps a little...and good luck!
$500 Customer Cash, $500 MAC Cash rebate (must finance through Mazda American Credit for $500 MAC Cash)
Maybe I'm just in the wrong ZIP code.
My heart is set on an '07 Mustang GT (dreamed of owning a Mustang V8 for a loooooong time) when my '04 Mazda6 S MTX lease expires in March 2007. However, we have two small boys, 2 and 5 months, and we are looking to buy a new house soon which may squash my plans for the Mustang again unfortunately.
Anyway, I told the wife I'd "settle" for a MAZDASPEED6 or MAZDASPEED3 if worse comes to worst because they are easily less money than the Mustang either by lease or purchase (can't lease a Mustang GT cheap at all these days). My question is, has anyone come out of a V6 Mazda6 and jumped into a MAZDASPEED6? Is it like night and day in a good way? Is the SPEED6 worth the extra cash? i.e. will I notice the difference?
Sounds like the SPEED3 will be faster, may handle better, cost less, and get better gas mileage. The AWD in the 6 is a definite plus here in the NE though.
I want everyone's thoughts on this please. The growl of the Mustang is too hard to pass up and I need some serious positive reinforcement if I have to change course if you know what I mean. :sick: The RX-8 is another option if the lease rates are right but that's another thread.
If you're still deciding, then there are some advantages with the Speed6. The AWD as you mentioned, plus four doors, which should be consideration if you're going to use the car to transport your children. When your lease is up, they will still be in infant car seats (which are bigger and bulkier) and will be more work to get in and out of the two-door Mustang. If you plan to play taxi on a regular basis, you will appreciate the easier access of four doors.
With the Speed3, you get the added bonus of the hatchback which will make it even easier to get strollers and other baby gear (man, there is a lot!) in and out of the vehicle. I would suggest that you bring your children's strollers with you for a test drive to see how they fit in the trunk, regardless of which car you choose.
If you don't plan to transport your kids, then by all means go for the Mustang and figure out a way to convince the missus! Since the Speed6 is relatively new and the Speed3 will be brand-spanking new, there may not be much room to negotiate the selling price (not sure how that works with a lease).
Just to cloud your decision further...if you're looking for a sporty four-door with a turbocharged engine and AWD, why not consider a Legacy GT? Its performance is very close to the Speed6 and you may be able to finagle a better deal.
Good luck!
Greg
Sidenotes: I have driven neither the 6 nor Speed6, so I can't really comment on the difference in performance. I'm very curious about how you have children aged two and five months. Did you mean years? If the kids are older, it would be easier for them to climb in-and-out of the back seat of the Mustang.
I did go from an '02 Altima SE (240hp V-6). After I drove it I swore I'd never go back to a 4-cyl. V-6 growl is very cool, power is great, etc., etc. Got the MS6 and now I will not go back to a N/A engine. I love it turbo acceleration. Sure, when you're not on boost, it's pretty humdrum (pretty much just at idle), at least w/stock exhaust. But on boost, it is such a rush. The MS6 is great and doesn't have the "starter car" image problem that some (like my wife) disdain so much. But, if that's not a problem, you don't mind FWD understeer, and you don't need AWD due to climate, I'd say wait for an MS3. Plenty of space for kids (one 2 yr. old and one 5 mos. old, right?), strollers, etc. Try getting strollers and something else large-ish in a midsize sedan's trunk. Not always possible and never easy. Hatch? Much easier. The only variable I see is if you were somehow able to get an MS6 Sport for LESS than an MS3 Sport. I'm assuming you're looking at the MS6 Sport since the MS6 GT is more than the Mustang GT per Edmunds.
Anyway, since you're not off your lease for awhile, wait for the MS3 and test drive it. If there are still any bargain '06 MS6's by then, test drive one of them. Like the previous poster suggested, definitely bring your strollers for a test fit. You can't go wrong, IMHO
If you are looking for speed and room for a family then the speed6 would be my choice and it was. I don't haeva family but I love the fact and have truck space and easy access to the back seats if I need to carry somethign there too. Has a nice ride and has the power and the fun to drive all in one. Plus you have AWD when you need it..this helps if you live in snow areas. I had to leave my stang on the side of the road when I was caught out when it snowed. The only drawback I think is the MPG and the fact you have to use 93 octane. Not a big deal but if you are worried about gas mileage then look elsewhere. I'm getting about 18-19 city and 25-26 highway. Not the worst but not the best either. the Reg. 6 is fun to drive but not close to the fun of the speed6. I think the reg 6 lacks in power in the low range but you get better gas milage.
My advice would be to do your research, test drive, compare and compare again. Weigh the factors and you can't go wrong when it comes time to buy.
Yes, one is 2 YEARS old and the other is 5 months old. They will be 3 years old and 13 months old when my lease is up on the 6. The 2 yr old already climbs in and out of his car seat in both our Explorer and Mazda6 so I am factoring that into the Mustang decision already.
No one out there who traded a V6 Mazda6 in for a MAZDASPEED6?
Whatever we replace the 6 with next March is by no means our primary vehicle as we have an '06 Explorer for that. I use the 6 to get to and from work, twisty back roads of course, and pick the kids up from daycare which is less than one mile from our house. We also use it occasionally on the weekends for short trips when we know no gear has to come along and we won't be bringing any back. To give you a gauge of how much this secondary vehicle is used, the 6 is now 28 months old and I just surpassed 13k miles. Although they were all really fun miles!
One question I have for GT owners: Does the enhanced start system have remote start (Mazda site says "Yes," but some posters imply "No"), and more importantly, also remote shutoff? I would like to use the remote shutoff as a poor-man's turbo timer, to let the turbo spool down just a little bit more before turning it off.
If manual is a must there is always Outback XT (please do not ask me what I think about Subaru's way of making options available
MazdaSpeed3, even hatchback, may not have enough space for 2 kids in the back and their stuff in the trunk.
It is very good idea to go shopping with kids' strollers.
Krzys
For a 2006 Sport:
$28,555 MSRP
$26,393 Invoice
-$1,000 Incentive/Rebate
=$25,393 + tax, tags, etc.
Sweet!!
You can get a Mazda6 V6 wagon, or the Legacy GT, or Outback XT, maybe a Magnum Hemi? There are a lot of practical yet fun wagons on the market.
-juice
Now to find a $25.5K Sport deal.
I would recommend the following...
Test drive the Sport and the GT. Drive them on the Interstate or Highway and some busy streets and maybe go through a neighberhood. This way you get more driving time in to make sure thats what you want.
Don't buy on the first visit unless they sale it for what you want to give for it. They will call you if they can get a sale which means the price you want. Go towards the end of the month. They always want sales at the end of the month.
Check out your Credit Union or bank or even online for a good APR. They tried to offer 7.9 for 72 months. I got 6.25% at the CU. I had a cheat sheet with me when I went with what payments will be after taxes and tags etc... They always give you the price in the form of the monthly payment. This is where your cheat sheet comes in. Always look at all the numbers before you sign. I have been told sometimes they put some added costs in and hope you don't catch it..
Well anyway you probably know all of that.. Just sharing info. on my experience. Good luck, let us know how you do...
One pricing option is to take the incentive lease, and buyout at lease end. The total comes to $26,5K, assuming $300 acquisition fee and no other fees and no other options. Pretty good without any dickering at all.
When I first test drove the MS6. I wanted it!!!! I was close to getting it until I found out the APR they was going to give me and the amount on my trade-in. I did my research so I knew they could do better. They tried to keep me there trying to get me to buy today. They came at me at different angles trying and trying but it all came down to the same price at the end. They even was going to let me take the car home for the night and see if they could get more for my trade-in. I don't think they would like it if I put 100-200 miles on the car. I wouldn't buy a spanken new car with more than 50 miles on it. Oh and make sure you get the color you want. They should be able to ship one in from another dealership at no cost. I got the Grey..love it...
After the first test drive I offered them 26k for the car off the bat and they said OK, but they wasn't going to give me a good trade-in value for my car and a good APR like I said before. So I don't see why you can't get one for 26-26.5k with any problems.
After a few days the saleman called and offered me 2k more on my trade and I was happy. I went back to the dealership and test drove again. But a GT this time to see the diffence.. to me the sport was more comfortable and had more headroom and there is no difference in the performance than the GT. just the leather and sunroof and the advance keyless which you can see when you check the cars out.
But be honest with the salesman first time you go and say your looking to buy a MS6 but not today..hey you are being honest but you know he is going to try and sale you one today, and when he does then you can say I said I wasn't buying today. One other thing also... when he keeps going back and forth from the manager and he takes way more than a few minutes..get up and walk around.. They are most likely trying to get you impatient and tied of waiting to get you to give in and buy the car... You will see what I mean when you go.... I can go on and on... The main thing research, research, research......Hopefully more MS6 owners will share there experiences on here with you.
$23k is truly an incredible price for a Japanese high performance AWD sports sedan w/ 4-yr, 50k mile warranty!!
Cheers!
I have gotten lazy and am going for an automatic myself, so not looking at speed6.
Take advantage, folks, those prices sound incredible.
-juice
Thanks a lot!