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Based on the IIHS crash tests on the Yaris, its value equation (when equipped with SABs) just went way up. The Yaris had the second-best results of cars equipped with SABs in the IIHS' test of B-class cars, G/G/M, bettered only by the larger/heavier Versa. Without SABs, the Yaris scored Poor on the side crash test (no surprise). Which demonstrates the value of SABs and explains why people like me won't buy a car without them.
Since some posters here have asked that we stick to the Yaris, I won't dwell on the scores of the other cars in the test, but I know someone else will probably want to bring them up.
Are you considering puchasing a Yaris, or any of the other vehicles in the test, in the forseeable future?
Most of the people who drive pickup trucks do NOT do so for work purposes. No, the big surge in pickup truck ownership has probably been due to the macho factor... you know, "badass boys want badass toys," or so the bumper stickers say. OK, some drivers want a higher seating position or the option of cargo space in the back, but the fact is that most pickup truck ownership is preferential -- those owners don't really NEED a pickup, they just WANT one.
When gas prices go up, you'll see less non-work trucks on the road, and car sales will increase (especially small car sales).
Yeah, but everybody owns a boat, and you can't haul it with a Yaris. I want to see you plow a road with a Yaris. Snow belt states depend on trucks to keep the roads open in the winter. You can't shut down michigan in January & February. Gas won't go up to $4 a gallon for a long period. If it does the economy will stall until it drops back down. Truck sales have continued to hold even when gas has spiked.
I had an Environmentalist tell me that a lawn mower ran once a week over a average summer puts out more green house gases than an automobile does over a year.
Well, let's see--considering that I burn less than 2 gallons of gas over an entire mowing season (May thru October), and I top my car off with about 6 gallons of gas every week of the year, our automobiles must have one heck of an effective emission system. Do you think? Or, maybe the environmentalist lives on a big estate in the carribean and has a lawn mower with a Hemi?
Come on now. Not the people I know; that's a pretty expensive hobby.
And yes, work trucks will continue to sell. But people who have been buying pickups and SUVs for "gee, they're nice to have" reasons will stop buying them.
Gas will be $3 a gallon this summer, $4 a gallon by 2009 and $5 a gallon by 2011. Book it.
Yes I have mild interest in getting a sub compact to drive back and forth to work. I plan on keeping my Silverado, but would like to get a small car. I'll admit I don't know anything about the new subcompacts. Thats why I've been reading these posts. I just put that link up to show people that they are dangerous when hit by large vehicles. Not to start a fight. I'm sorry if I'm getting you guys off topic. I was just here for a little info, and put my 2 cents in. I do have one piece of advice for you folks already owning these compacts. As a truck owner please watch yourself when you're near a trucks blind spot. Sub compact cars & motorcycles can drive in a trucks blind spot all day long without the driver seeing you. Truck sales will top 2 million units every year no matter what gas does.
Yes, my next new car will be either a B-class car or a compact. Based on the IIHS test results and my own research and test drives, the Versa and Fit are high on my list for serious consideration when it comes time to buy. I've already bought two cars this year though, so I won't be getting my next one for awhile unless something unexpected happens. Unless you want to give me $15,000 tomorrow, then I'll go out and buy that new car right now!
Yes we still need larger vehicles. I just wish wed get smart and add a lot more smaller cars. Personally I buy small cars so I can afford the most outrageous motorcycles built. (I mean fast motorcycles not Harleys) So its not just to save gas but that good too.
You have hit it right on the head: cars DO have one heck of an emissions system, while your lawnmower has none. Your lawnmower causes as much emissions when running as 1000 ULEV cars, or something like that (I saw the number once, but have forgotten it now - it was big though). This is why California will begin having emissions standards for small-engined appliances like lawnmowers and leafblowers in 2008.
chevy598: you make some good points, but then detract from their effect with some statements that seem slightly absurd: certainly, not EVERYONE has a boat, in fact even among truck buyers, less than 2% surveyed by AAA last year use theirs for towing anything. You make a very good point about snow plows and tow trucks, but these aren't the bulk of the pick-up market either. Now contractors - of course THEY need full-size pick-ups most of the time. But FWIW, Toyota officials have wondered publicly this year whether it will be worth the expense to go whole-hog with the next-gen Tundra - it is massive and gas-guzzling, just as you say. The personal transport buyers of full-size pick-ups will disappear in droves, I am sure, as gas spikes up in future summers to $4/gal (maybe next year, if not then the year after for sure), then $5/gal, etc.
And contrary to what you said, truck sales DID NOT continue steady when gas prices shot up. Through most of this year they were down as much as 20%. Just ask Ford about that - they have been crying in their soup in utter disbelief as they watched the bottom fall out of F-150 sales in spring and summer.
It is good to know that Yaris is still one of the safest models in its class, even if its results weren't stellar. Even WITH the side airbags, Rio and Accent results were poor, as were Aveo's results, although there I don't know the side airbag situation.
With the results of the IIHS report, I sure hope Toyota starts to build a LOT more of the Yarii with the SAB, and makes them standard soon (they say all their models will have them standard by 2009, apparently)
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Toyota did say they would have VSC standard on all vehicles by 2009, but I don't recall them saying anything about standard SABs by 2009. I hope they will move more quickly than that on the SABs, since Yaris and Corolla are just about their only two vehicles sold in the U.S. that don't have SABs standard, and a new Corolla is coming soon.
I believe you are confusing smog producing emissions with greenhouse gasses. A properly functioning, modern automobile emissions system will remove the vast majority of smog producing emissions (primarily unburned hydrocarbons) from your exhaust, but will have no impact on the amount of greenhouse gases (carbon dioxide) released.
Since your lawnmower has no such emissions system, it releases larger quantities of smog producing emissions than your automobile, even at the much smaller level of gasoline consumed.
Either system (your car or your lawn mower) will produce and release essentially the same amount of carbon dioxide per gallon of gas. So, only drive your lawnmower to work if you are less concerned about smog than you are about global warming.
Yes, I know. I thought the original poster was referring to smog-forming emissions. If they meant GHG emissions, then my apologies.
backy: I remain unconvinced that Toyota will make SAB standard on the '09 Corolla, despite their statements to the press. And Yaris? Forget it. I think the best we can hope for is more being built with optional SAB, and the bags maybe becoming standard on the next-gen Yaris around 2011.
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If sales of the non-SAB Yarii stay strong despite all the press from the IIHS tests, then I agree with you. But I am less convinced that Toyota won't put standard SABs on the new Corolla. Many of the Corolla's competitor's have them, and even ABS standard.
I looked at the Fit but it reminds me of the Suzuki Aerio or the Aveo (the GM version of teh Aerio) and felt it was basically the same vehicle, just 're-badged' to be a Fit and wondered if Suzuki was designing the Fit. I also felt that the interior was "old" and not up to date. Plus, the Fit has the gas tank under the driver's feet. I found that to be a safety worry for me.
I loved the Yaris Liftback and fell in love with it the moment I drove it (and I test drove the 4 door but didn't like it as much) and should have purchased it on the spot (it was in May 2006 and I didn't realize the Yaris Liftback was hard to get..so I ordered it the next week in Blazing Blue, with the CD/mp3 player (the basic $740.00 package) and it came with a bumper guard and arm rest (I didn't order those but they ended up being way ok) and I got my Yaris Liftback in July 2006. I love it a lot and its great on gas mileage (my usual average is around 40 plus mpg), drives very nicely and is very comfortable.
I get lots of stares at the car from other drivers and smiles as they wonder what it is....
all in all I am very very happy. I can't say I would be in the Fit...it just wasn't a right fit for me.
Hi! Great comment. I totally agree. The Fit does remind me of the Areo as well. Honestly, I did not like the suspension and drive quality of the Fit. I liked the room and the seats. They should hurry up with the design upgrade and you know something else? Start dropping more manuals at the Honda dealerships. Toyo dealer had lots more manuals whereas Honda dealer said would be a month before a manual came in and it would be only ONE manual. This is in South FL! I bought the Toyo Yaris. Toyotas will always be known and have a slight edge if you prefer a soft ride. The Honda's ride like sports cars (IMO). The civic has a nice ride soft like I like but...the $$$. However, the Fit definitely has more room, is more utilitarian and is a better buy for a bigger budget than I had with a 05 Element trade-in. I bought the Yaris because I wanted one, I love the design...the design is beautiful. The Fit looks like a small minivan or a Mazda5. My favorites are Yaris, Aveo and Accent. The Aveo, priced with standard and $2500 rebate is like a 10,000 car IF you don't mind the bumpy shifter(manual) and the cheapy feel of the doors. But utilitarian wise and overall dollar for dollar the Aveo is pretty good it's just that Made in America badge that scares people and the depreciation is embarrassing. The Accent I love simply because I drove a 93 Hyundai Excel for 138K trouble free miles.
I dig your what you wrote and I, too, would certainly go for the Yaris...
Only one thing: The AVEO is made in Korea by Daewoo, and it's known around the world as the Kalos in some markets. I do agree, though, that many have this fear of anything, especially automobiles, made in America...so I catch your drift!
I just came from the portland auto show. The two I felt most comfortable sitting in were the Yaris and Accent. Fit just felt awkward or cramped or something.. I was expecting it to feel roomy based on what I'd read.
Well I now have 28000 kms on my 3 door Yaris that I purchased in September "06. Has run flawlessly and only had a couple of oil changes and a tire rotation. Just came back from a run down from Southern Ontario to Key West, Florida and didn't have a hint of problems, even in the snow storm that hit Kentucky/ Ohio on the way back. Had it up to and a little over 90mph a few times and car felt solid. One of the better buys I have done.
Hey Double... do you mean September '05? I bought my '07 Yaris liftback in March of '06, and it's got about 14,000 miles on it now. Like yours, mine's had a couple of oil changes, maybe one tire rotation as I put winter tires on my cars from December to April. It rides rough with those tires, but traction is excellent. Otherwise, the interior has some scars on the hard plastics, but no real problems! I guess they could have made the armrest more substantial--it feels a little loose now.
Echo ended up one of the most highly rated cars on the road in terms of reliability. Given that there is a lot of similarity between the Echo and the Yaris, I suspect Yaris will accomplish the same feat. And with any luck, the xA and xB as well...
I suspect that is what kneisl was referring to with his comment, that and the fact that both models are inexpensive to buy and operate.
And hey, these days, Yaris/Echo is one of the few Toyotas you can buy that is still "made in Japan"!! :-)
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I'm trying to get a feeling for how much my 07' sedan, pwr pkg, auto w/4500 miles. I see dealers selling 7000-10000 mile demos with similar equipment for 15900(I know they'll probably haggle off of that) Any input would be appreciated.I'm selling because I going down to one car instead of 2 .
Opps ,September 05, probably 1st one out of the dealership in Hamilton Ont. Little 3 dr hatch orange baby. Bought it site unseen and haven't regretted one km on it!
is mostly made at NUMMI, the Fremont, CA plant, and at Toyota's Ontario plant in Canada.
As with the Camry, when demand exceeds the output of the American plants, Toyota will bring in some Corollas from Japan. Right now there are a fair number of Japanese-built Camrys in the mix, as demand for that model has been so strong for the last year.
Of course, Toyota has never done this with the Yaris or Echo - all have been Japanese-built - which is what doomed Echo I think: they had to either decontent or raise prices a lot when the dollar was weak around Y2K, and they chose to mostly raise prices, which put Echo in direct contention with the American-built (and therefore cheaper for Toyota) Corolla.
The same is true now, the only difference being that Toyota has been able to leverage EVEN MORE its global-everything-sharing to benefit the Yaris's bottom line.
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My daughters 92 Camry got rear ended and is totaled. Saw a used Yaris on a dealers lot for $13,000. Auto and a lot of options. Car has 580 miles on it and it Toyota certified. Salesman claims it was returned in a month because the owner said it was too small. Is this a: DEAL OR NO DEAL?
I've seen "one only" deals for new Yaris liftbacks w/auto trans for as low as $9999. Not sure about your area, but perhaps you may find a similar deal. Good luck.
AM negotiating for new 2007 hatchback 2 dr automatic, disk brakes with these options: PQ package which includes 15" steel wheels, power windows, door locks, rear defroster, intermittent rear wiper, 60/40 folding rear seat, AM/FM stereo, sgl CD player and 4 speakers. Also has cruise control, keyless entry, fog lamps, and armrest. NO side airbags, only front. They started at $18,957.00. We are now at $16,000 out the door incl taxes, regis, destination charge. IS THIS A GOOD PRICE??? Appreciate any feedback you can give on this.
The MSRP including detination charge for that car w/o the dealer-installed cruise and armrest is $14,300. How much are they charging for those add-ons? How much are taxes and fees?
That's pretty funny backy. I didn't know you had such a sense of humor. He better not let you know where he's located, or you might beat him to it, even if it is a Yaris. Got your passport ready? I might even want an extra one for a spare, but I will let you have the first shot at it. It would be worth it, just to hear what you would have to say about it.
Has anyone out there experienced inclement weather, such as snow and/or icy roads/streets in a Yaris, especially the 3dr version? I'm curious to know how this little critter makes do with traction on VERY slick surfaces.
Hopefully Toyota will bring the latest Yaris 3 and 5dr liftbacks to the U.S. in 2008. There's always that possibility, eventhough I'm not so optimistic it will happen. ...In the U.K. there are versions of both liftbacks with ESC/traction control and MORE power. Toyota SHOULD send some of those here. They WOULD sell, I'm sure of it.
Word is that the new Scion xD 5-door (replacement for the xA) is based on the Yaris platform. That makes it unlikely that Toyota would bring the Yaris 5-door to the U.S., since it would compete directly with the xD. But maybe that's a moot point, if the xD is based on the Yaris... you could think of the xD as a Yaris 5-door with a different name badge!
Personally I think the 1.5L engine in the Yaris is peppy enough, and its fuel economy is its main value proposition. VSC would be welcome, and maybe we will see it in the next couple of years as Toyota makes good on its promise to put VSC on all of its cars in the U.S. by 2009.
The new xD runs on the Yaris platform, but uses the Corolla powertrain, which leaves a nice slot for the Yaris 5-door to slide into later this year, as a more frugal alternative to the xD. I am glad they will finally make it available in the U.S., and hopefully they will give it a few more factory options than the 3-door gets now.
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Well, I guess I can't speak for the stock 3-door in snow since I threw a set of Blizzak WS-50s on my red 3-door this year (of course, we got very little snow; figures!), but when we did get snow, I didn't even notice the snow, slush or ice patches! The Blizzaks almost seemed to give the car more "weight," especially when changing lanes on the highway, and plowing through that "slush" that accumulates there. A very useful upgrade, in my opinion.
Coming up from Florida and hit storm at Lexington/Cinci area on I-75. It would do it but did get dicey when lane changes were needed. Finally called it quits as didn't have enough weight. All seasons Bridgestones that came with the 3 dr. Next morning had no problem and drove out of the white stuff by the time we got to Toledo. This was the storm around Valentines Day.
"I looked at the Fit but it reminds me of the Suzuki Aerio or the Aveo (the GM version of teh Aerio) and felt it was basically the same vehicle, just 're-badged' to be a Fit and wondered if Suzuki was designing the Fit."
The two really do look alike on the outside. I believe it's the other way around though: the Aveo is a copy of the Fit, which has existed in its present shape since the early 90s. The inside of the two cars is quite different, however, as well as the engine, transmission and other parts.
I bought my Yaris in November 2006. I took it on a trip soon after got 41 MPG I had 2 adults and my 2 teenagers and trunk full of luggage. It was great not to visit the gas pumps so often. I had just took another trip and I even got slightly better mileage of course I didn't have the air on much But even then it was still better than the car I had before (Audi 90s). This car would make a great hybrid combo... All I can say is keep motoring..... Mooresville N.C.
how long has the yaris been around? This year was the first year i heard the word Yaris (end of 2006 to now), but i see discussions from like 2004, and i saw someone mentiona 2006 yaris. so how long has the yaris been around?
I consider myself a master at increasing mpg. Keeping your tires inflated properly goes with out saying but you will not get 20- 25% increase by doing so. The lighter wheels will certainly give you possibly up to 2 mpg, use lucas gas treatment in your gas, if you buy it on sale only in the gallon container it will be cost effective. Look for it on sale at truck stops, one gallon treats 400 gallons of gas, on sale about 19.99 gallon. Have you ever heard of the Fitch fuel catalyst? It fits inline with your gas line and conditions the fuel, it is not a magnet because they do not work. This is a little pricey but you could see another 2 mpg.Investigate the capacitance spark plugs, there are different ones on the market " Pulstar plugs" possibly good for 1 mpg ,Go to a less restrictive muffler that is not too loud, you will lose weight but get another 1 mpg. K&N air filter, light weight battery, they now have lithium ion car batteries that are a fraction of the weight. Consider a different header. Run Royal purple motor oil, All this will not be so accumulative but you will see a difference.
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Since some posters here have asked that we stick to the Yaris, I won't dwell on the scores of the other cars in the test, but I know someone else will probably want to bring them up.
Are you considering puchasing a Yaris, or any of the other vehicles in the test, in the forseeable future?
When gas prices go up, you'll see less non-work trucks on the road, and car sales will increase (especially small car sales).
Well, let's see--considering that I burn less than 2 gallons of gas over an entire mowing season (May thru October), and I top my car off with about 6 gallons of gas every week of the year, our automobiles must have one heck of an effective emission system. Do you think? Or, maybe the environmentalist lives on a big estate in the carribean and has a lawn mower with a Hemi?
Come on now. Not the people I know; that's a pretty expensive hobby.
And yes, work trucks will continue to sell. But people who have been buying pickups and SUVs for "gee, they're nice to have" reasons will stop buying them.
Gas will be $3 a gallon this summer, $4 a gallon by 2009 and $5 a gallon by 2011. Book it.
I do have one piece of advice for you folks already owning these compacts. As a truck owner please watch yourself when you're near a trucks blind spot. Sub compact cars & motorcycles can drive in a trucks blind spot all day long without the driver seeing you. Truck sales will top 2 million units every year no matter what gas does.
chevy598: you make some good points, but then detract from their effect with some statements that seem slightly absurd: certainly, not EVERYONE has a boat, in fact even among truck buyers, less than 2% surveyed by AAA last year use theirs for towing anything.
You make a very good point about snow plows and tow trucks, but these aren't the bulk of the pick-up market either. Now contractors - of course THEY need full-size pick-ups most of the time. But FWIW, Toyota officials have wondered publicly this year whether it will be worth the expense to go whole-hog with the next-gen Tundra - it is massive and gas-guzzling, just as you say. The personal transport buyers of full-size pick-ups will disappear in droves, I am sure, as gas spikes up in future summers to $4/gal (maybe next year, if not then the year after for sure), then $5/gal, etc.
And contrary to what you said, truck sales DID NOT continue steady when gas prices shot up. Through most of this year they were down as much as 20%. Just ask Ford about that - they have been crying in their soup in utter disbelief as they watched the bottom fall out of F-150 sales in spring and summer.
It is good to know that Yaris is still one of the safest models in its class, even if its results weren't stellar. Even WITH the side airbags, Rio and Accent results were poor, as were Aveo's results, although there I don't know the side airbag situation.
With the results of the IIHS report, I sure hope Toyota starts to build a LOT more of the Yarii with the SAB, and makes them standard soon (they say all their models will have them standard by 2009, apparently)
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Since your lawnmower has no such emissions system, it releases larger quantities of smog producing emissions than your automobile, even at the much smaller level of gasoline consumed.
Either system (your car or your lawn mower) will produce and release essentially the same amount of carbon dioxide per gallon of gas. So, only drive your lawnmower to work if you are less concerned about smog than you are about global warming.
backy: I remain unconvinced that Toyota will make SAB standard on the '09 Corolla, despite their statements to the press. And Yaris? Forget it. I think the best we can hope for is more being built with optional SAB, and the bags maybe becoming standard on the next-gen Yaris around 2011.
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I loved the Yaris Liftback and fell in love with it the moment I drove it (and I test drove the 4 door but didn't like it as much) and should have purchased it on the spot (it was in May 2006 and I didn't realize the Yaris Liftback was hard to get..so I ordered it the next week in Blazing Blue, with the CD/mp3 player (the basic $740.00 package) and it came with a bumper guard and arm rest (I didn't order those but they ended up being way ok) and I got my Yaris Liftback in July 2006. I love it a lot and its great on gas mileage (my usual average is around 40 plus mpg), drives very nicely and is very comfortable.
I get lots of stares at the car from other drivers and smiles as they wonder what it is....
all in all I am very very happy. I can't say I would be in the Fit...it just wasn't a right fit for me.
Toyotas will always be known and have a slight edge if you prefer a soft ride. The Honda's ride like sports cars (IMO). The civic has a nice ride soft like I like but...the $$$. However, the Fit definitely has more room, is more utilitarian and is a better buy for a bigger budget than I had with a 05 Element trade-in. I bought the Yaris because I wanted one, I love the design...the design is beautiful. The Fit looks like a small minivan or a Mazda5.
My favorites are Yaris, Aveo and Accent. The Aveo, priced with standard and $2500 rebate is like a 10,000 car IF you don't mind the bumpy shifter(manual) and the cheapy feel of the doors. But utilitarian wise and overall dollar for dollar the Aveo is pretty good it's just that Made in America badge that scares people and the depreciation is embarrassing. The Accent I love simply because I drove a 93 Hyundai Excel for 138K trouble free miles.
I dig your what you wrote and I, too, would certainly go for the Yaris...
Only one thing: The AVEO is made in Korea by Daewoo, and it's known around the world as the Kalos in some markets.
I do agree, though, that many have this fear of anything, especially automobiles, made in America...so I catch your drift!
Merry 2007, friend... :shades:
Peace!
Echo ended up one of the most highly rated cars on the road in terms of reliability. Given that there is a lot of similarity between the Echo and the Yaris, I suspect Yaris will accomplish the same feat. And with any luck, the xA and xB as well...
I suspect that is what kneisl was referring to with his comment, that and the fact that both models are inexpensive to buy and operate.
And hey, these days, Yaris/Echo is one of the few Toyotas you can buy that is still "made in Japan"!! :-)
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As with the Camry, when demand exceeds the output of the American plants, Toyota will bring in some Corollas from Japan. Right now there are a fair number of Japanese-built Camrys in the mix, as demand for that model has been so strong for the last year.
Of course, Toyota has never done this with the Yaris or Echo - all have been Japanese-built - which is what doomed Echo I think: they had to either decontent or raise prices a lot when the dollar was weak around Y2K, and they chose to mostly raise prices, which put Echo in direct contention with the American-built (and therefore cheaper for Toyota) Corolla.
The same is true now, the only difference being that Toyota has been able to leverage EVEN MORE its global-everything-sharing to benefit the Yaris's bottom line.
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DEAL OR NO DEAL?
Has anyone out there experienced inclement weather, such as snow and/or icy roads/streets in a Yaris, especially the 3dr version? I'm curious to know how this little critter makes do with traction on VERY slick surfaces.
Hopefully Toyota will bring the latest Yaris 3 and 5dr
liftbacks to the U.S. in 2008. There's always that possibility, eventhough I'm not so optimistic it will happen. ...In the U.K. there are versions of both liftbacks with ESC/traction control and MORE power. Toyota SHOULD send some of those here. They WOULD sell, I'm sure of it.
Cheers...
Peace! :shades:
Personally I think the 1.5L engine in the Yaris is peppy enough, and its fuel economy is its main value proposition. VSC would be welcome, and maybe we will see it in the next couple of years as Toyota makes good on its promise to put VSC on all of its cars in the U.S. by 2009.
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The two really do look alike on the outside. I believe it's the other way around though: the Aveo is a copy of the Fit, which has existed in its present shape since the early 90s. The inside of the two cars is quite different, however, as well as the engine, transmission and other parts.
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