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My cover was an accessory from my Dodge dealer; made to fit the QC. Don't know the brand name. But, it is the same one shown in all of the Dakota brochures; must be approved by DC. Total price, installed, was about $725.00
Dealer installed it. They had to drill holes along the top sides of the box to install the rails that hold/guide the cover.
Dealer did a pretty good job. BUT, they candidly admitted that they had never installed one before. Put a small scratch on tailgate; and, intially forgot to install the rear lock.
The cover has 2-locks; one at the front on the driver's side and one in the rear center. The dealer bolted on two small bars (2") that slightly protrude; one bolted onto front of box just beneath front lock and one on tailgate just below other lock. When the key is turned, an L shaped piece of metal slides in the center of the protruding bar referenced above. Sounds complicated, but it is really not. One picture is worth 1,000 words.
When the rear is locked, it prevents the tailgate from being lowered. They can pull on the handle all day long. Still won't open!
The key looks like an old fashioned skate key.
The cover has 3-sliding retainers on each rail to keep the cover from vibrating or flying up.
The cover is attached to the body by 2 C-clamps; one on each side. Easy to unclamp. But, takes two people to lift it off; (weighs @ 100 lbs.) It's not too heavy; but, it is bulky - just waiting for a chance to slip and nick your paint job! That's why you need two to take it off.
There is a slight (1/2") gap under the lip at both ends to accomodate a bedliner. I don't have a bedliner. About a teacup of water would get in during heavy rain, so I installed a 1/8" wide marine weatherstrip along the front and rear edges. I got the Marine weatherstrip at Home Depot; $3.00 for a huge roll - got plenty left over.
Would I do it all again? Heck yes! I like to lock up my purchases when I go shopping; away from prying eyes. Can't get that kind of security in one of those soft covers.
Several truck owners have stopped me in parking lots to ask me where I got the cover, etc. Once you see it, it sells itself.
Question 1 If I get the 4x2 can I put a lift kit on it to raise it up to look like the 4x4. If so would I void any warranty from the manufacturer?
Question 2 If I did add a lift kit how much would this cost and would it look identical to 4x4 when finished or is there something in appearance that I am missing?
Thanks
I think you will find the 4.7l v8 to be the preferred choice. It gets better gas mileage than the 3.9l v6. I have also seen discussed in the Dodge Dakota Owners forum that the 4x4 and the 4x2 get nearly identical mileage. I would suggest if you like the looks of the 4x4 buy it. You will be happier in the end.
I have 2000 Quad Cab with the 4.7l v8, 5 speed transmission and 3.55 rear end ratio. At a constant 55 mph on 2 lane blacktop roads I can get 21 mpg. 65 mph on interstates gives me 18.5 to 19.5 mpg. 75mph on interstates yields 17.5 to 18.5 mpg. Easy driving in a city environment I can get 16.5 to 17.5. Lots of stop and go and zooming from stoplight to stoplight drops mileage into the 13 to 15 mpg range. Rick
I doubt the dealer will be real anxious to give much - if anything - on trade.
Selling it yourself is such a PAIN !!
Anybody know much about donating your vehicle as a tax write-off?
I've seen billboards about donating it to an organization affiliated with lung cancer (I think it is)
You can write off up to $2500 - which is very close to the blue book value at this time.
I appreciate any feedback
Joe
Bookitty
Now, as we have all experienced, dealers don't like to deal with true warrenty repairs even when the truck is dead stock. Many will try to say that by modifying the truck you void the warrenty, but they are just blowing smoke. By law they have to fix it, providing the exceptions above. Do your research and know your rights, and you'll be OK.
Thanks for the advice.
Bookitty
Whew! Its been exactly 2 years since I started my hunt for a vehicle to replace an 88 Corsica (203K).
We put off purchasing while my smart wife went back to school full-time to get a masters degree.
As I have been picking up the slack with house chores and the 3 yr old, I haven't been keeping up with the goings-on here...
We'll need to by a used QC. Could someone share their opinion as to whether the 2001/2 models have improved much over the 2000 - or is the model year I was originally looking at (2000) a good used purchase?
Thanks for your input. Its GREAT to be back!!!
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Latest development. A dealer offered to order a new 2002 for invoice minus the 2K cash allowance and including the 7yr/100k powertrain protection.
Is this an offer to jump on?
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Thanks for any suggestions,
Cyberspace Steve
voucher. If the dealer orders, you will have time to apply.
Bookitty
I'm considering a RAM 1500 QuadCab because the box would allow me to load my ATV and close the tailgate. However, the Dakota QC's lighter weight would produce better fuel consumption, and quite frankly, the smaller Dakota would be a easlier handling and thus appealing to the wife. Also, the Dakota is less expensive.
Although most people I talk to are very pleased with their Dakotas -- especially the newer ones -- I am still concerned about what I perceived to be some component quality and assembly quality problems.
Newer owners, what's your opinion?
Thanks in advance,
Dusty
I had a 2000 Dak, 4.7 auto, CC, air tilt cruise the whole bit.
I had 4 sets of rotors and drums replaced during the first 26K due to warpage.
I've had the camshaft position sensor replaced at about 5K Plus an AIS motor twice to cure the crappy idle.
I had three flashes to the PCM in order to keep the motor from stalling out at stoplights and during initial startup.
I had a 45RFE auto that never shifted smoothly despite numerous debates with the dealer and a printed TSB that specifically addressed the issue. The issue was a very rough and harsh 2-3 upshift. Now I've been around cars for quite a few years and I know darn well that it was "not functioning as designed" (quote from a "technician")
I had the wiper switch replaced to cure mysterious behavior of the interval wipers.
I had it in twice to attempt to cure a rather ugly clunk in the front end during turns and also during brake application. This issue was never fixed properly.
In the end, I got fed up with it all and traded it in on a vitara ( a hamster if there ever was one).
No, I am not singing praises on Asian vehicles......just yet....my jury is still out on this one. This is my first Asian vehicle.
There you go....my thoughts.....overall the Dak was once nice truck but too much cost cutting in the wrong areas resulted in a truck where the whole was less than the sum of its parts. Now, I will make a payment or pay out the wazoo in repairs but I simply refuse to do both. Which is why I bought new in the first place.
BTW......my truck, god bless it, was built on a Friday!
PPS I outlined these issues in a letter to DC in greater detail and threw in some not so nice commentary on the way DC was running its operations.
I've yet to hear back from them.
Robert
He has 2 already in BX and BG status and is calling today to see if their configuration can be changed.
My problem with current stock on the lots is that my wife is un-wavering regarding 4 wheel ABS because we'll be doing alot of driving.
X-ing my fingers...
Cyberdad Steve
Just to chime in, I have 14k on my Quad and all I've had go wrong was a bad vacuum hose that went at like 6k and was making a loud puffing noise. No other problems so far. Not a bad vehicle. I think the drive train is a little loose for my 5-speed tastes, but as long as it holds up I'm fine with it.
I love my QC, but the crappy idle is driving me nuts. (2001 QC-Plus, HD, 4.7L, auto, 2-wd) I just rolled up on 17K miles.
When sitting at stop signs or lights, it idles rough. When A/C compressor is off, idle drops to 500 rpm; rough idle AND almost stalls.
Took it back to my "five-star" dealer @ 3x and was told I'm overfiling gas tank. So, for the past 4 months, I've been careful not to "top off" the tank. Problem is only getting worse. Rough idle more pronounced.
I buy gas at same Shell dealer all the time; as does my wife. Her Jimmy never idles rough. So, I don't think it's bad gas.
I put STP fuel injector cleaner. No results.
Any suggestions?????
That the dealer tells you that you are filling the tank too much is pure baloney! Next time, ask for wheat bread and mayo and go make a sandwich.
YOu sometimes have to throw a royal fit to get them to do stuff.
Remember, warranty work is not what pays their bills. Its "after" warranty work that brings home their bacon.
Ask ahasher about his idle and the crap he had to go thru to get it fixed.
Sometimes I feel that about 50% of my frustration was due to the dealer.
Stay tuned.
Surprisingly, most of the people I've talked to appear to be very pleased with their Dakotas. And I know a fair number that are on their 2nd, or 3rd and even fourth Dakota. Although, I detect a similar pattern with S-10 owners even after they tell me about replacing a couple of engine computers or transmissions or engines that use too much oil and a plethora of other problems. I suspect that for reasons other than reliability both of these vehicles have reasons for being well liked.
Still, I think I've talked to more Dakota owners who are telling me that their reliability experience is very good to problem free.
I've been looking back at earlier posts on this subject. One comment about brakes. While the level of premature rotor/brake replacement seems unreasonably high on the Dakota, the Dakota isn't the only popular vehicle to suffer in this area. I'm hearing the same complaints from Grand Cherokee, S-10, F150, Ford Explorer and even Tundra owners. Before we were married, my wife put 86,000 miles on a Dodge Charger and only replaced one set of rotors and pads.
None of this is being offered as an excuse for the Dakota by any means. This problem should not be this frequent on any vehicle. Oddly enough, I haven't heard this complaint from any Durango owner and I would suspect they use the same brake components.
I think I'll stick to my original plan of either a RAM 1500 Quad or the F150 SuperCrew.
Thanks for your opinions.
Regards,
Dusty
Good luck with your decision.
BTW>......the RAM has whopping 13 inch rotors.....makes me wonder if DC learned their lesson on the prev gen rams?
BTW... My 2000 Dakota has over 30,000 miles with NO problems with warped rotors. I will gladly GIVE AWAY my perfect stock rotors soon.
I will be replacing them with POWERSLOT as soon as I find a source for the Raybestos ceramic pads. I went to NAPA and they claimed to have orderd them for me... a week later they gave up and told me that they could not get them from ANYWHERE in the country.
52,000 miles and no problems. No rattles, no idle problems (mopoar67.. at least that fix worked) no brake problems except for my chirping on occasion now. Tires look like they can go till fall.. no unusual wear from alignment.. a very nice level wear pattern. Bosch +4 plugs performing beautifully.. great acceleration and poser. Mileage constant at 18/19 or so highway..
However on problem I have is that bugs still have the nerve to muck up the front and windshield even after a day of cleaning and waxing.. ;-0 turning a 3 beer job into 4..
way to go bugs!
Bookitty
I'm sure with a credit card number they would be more than willing to ship anywhere.
P.S..The pads were 77.89.
John
Unfortunatly, Pep Boys have not found their way to Vermont yet. I may consider calling A&A tho...
NAPA quoted me $75... but could not get them.
My powerslot rotors look lonely in the shipping cartons... I check on them occasionally and promise myself to get those pads. ;-)
I also plan on finding a REDLINE oil source to change my differentials, Xfer case and 5SP tranny.
Justed wanted to say I love your sense of humor, having also grown up watching the Stooges.
Ah well, gota look for that shut off valve now. I'll find it if it kills me.....
Justed wanted to say I love your sense of humor, having also grown up watching the Stooges.
Ah well, gota look for that shut off valve now. I'll find it if it kills me.....
In frustration, my wife and I looked at our second choice (F150 SuperCrew) and happened to find a new 2001 on a lot which met all our requirements, for $160 less than the 2002 Quad. We own it now.
Thanks for everyone who shares experiences and knowledge on this board (the best I've seen). I'm planning on keeping in touch as the topics discussed here cross vehicle lines, and can be applied to all truck owners.
No hard feelings, please... Hopefully our new vehicle will hold up as well as your's have.
Cyberdad Steve
Bookitty
I would have taken a supercrew over the quad hands down, if the price had been a little less and they would have offered a 5-speed in it.
My dad has had 3 F-150s, 1 Bronco, and 1 F-250 superduty over the past 15 years. I can honestly say the quality has been great. He has driven each one for over 100k miles, except for the Superduty, but he just got that one.
Good luck!
Bookitty
Bookitty
Well, took home the new quad:
Graphite 4.7L Auto Sport Plus, LSD, 3:55, Tow, all power options, leather, and Dual Exhaust and Line-X (was the dealership's owner's truck, so he added the extras). Paid $350 under invoice, due to the few miles on the truck.
Taking delivery on the new boat on Saturday, 2002 Larson SEI 1800, (4.3L V6, seats 8, weight of boat 2300#, w/trailer about 2950#). Added Fish Finder, Marine Radio w/8' whip antenna, spare for the trailer, Bimini Top, bow cover, hour meter, surge brakes, to the boat package, so OTD was $18,900 on the boat.
I guess I'm ready for salmon fishing, delta cruising, and lake waterskiing.
Anyway, let's hope the Quad holds together as well as the old one (2000 PB 4.7L SLT Plus Auto 3:55 Tow, yada, yada, yada)
-Skip
Bookitty