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My dad's friend had a yellow 67 T-bird with the Sucicide doors. I thought it was the sexiest car, ever. A beautiful design, worthy of the Thunderbird name. I thought he was rich, owning that car.
The car was a poor seller, although the economy might have had more to do with it than the car itself. They sold 156,000 in 1980. It outsold the Monte Carlo, Grand Prix, Cordoba, and Mirada, but the Regal moved about 214,000 units, and the Cutlass Supreme coupe managed to run off about 275,000 (that's JUST the personal luxury coupe body style, NOT including the sedan, aeroback coupe, or wagon) Oh, and the Cougar ran off about 58,000 units, which is probably a feat, considering it started around $600 more than the T-bird...~$7000, versus ~$6400.
For 1981, sales fell sharply, to about 87,000. The economy was getting worse, so that was part of it, but the car itself had to be to blame as well. Sales of the Monte Carlo, Grand Prix, Regal, and Cutlass actually went up that year, although I'm sure that year's more aerodynamic facelift helped. Sales of the Cordoba/Mirada dried up, and the Cougar XR-7 coupe fell to about 37,000.
1982 was a really pathetic year. 45,000 T-birds sold. 17,000 Cougar XR-7's. In fairness, the T-bird's competition took a beating in that recession year as well, but just think...5 short years earlier, the '77 T-bird managed to move over 300,000 units!
I'd heard that initially, the 1983 T-bird was going to be a new design, but still carrying on that same squared-off style. But it got scrapped in record time, and we got the aero style Bird instead. It managed to move 121,000 units that year, a miracle considering how bad the economy still was.
It's amazing how night-and-day different the '82 and '83 T-bird are, considering they both sprang from the same Fox platform.
If this was a Trans Am, it still wouldn't be worth this much It's rusty AND a 6 cyl
The black nose is incorrect but I've seen worse for this money
Wish the pictures were better I don't see aynthing that makes me think that this is a 442
Quality craftsmanship
Parts car
Green machine
Long way to go
Spruce this up in time for summer
Need better pics
69 Firebird -- looks way too scary.I'm seein' overspray on the black nose, rusty hose clamps, ripped seats, tarnished chrome all over, unrestored undercarriage, missing PCV hose, no air filter? Be afraid, be very afraid.
Olds 442 -- kinda shabby from the description, and no VIN or good photos. One wonders about rust, authenticity, plus it needs body work, has been repainted a dark color over a light color (not a good idea), etc. And besides it's a couple years too late for big money even if it was real. Probably not worth the complete tear down it needs. Buy it cheap, (real cheap) take it to Miracle Auto Body, have fun with it, don't even replace the top.
73 Mustang -- might be worth the money if it's *really* nice.
65 Mustang Fastback -- let's see here. A killer restored '65 FSBK might bring you what....$30K? $35K? Can you get there from here? Seems marginal. Might be a nice two-three year hobby/therapy project. If you give the car to a pro for restoration, you're buried into the grave with it.
67 Buick Skylark -- well, if all it needed was a good but cheapo paintjob, a steamclean, a few parts here and there, sure why not? There's a little room here--just don't go "full resto".
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I like Miatas, but as a man who eats meat, I cannot abide light blue or white. I've done "red" to death, I don't care for a black Miata, and silver is sooooo yesterday.
I've looked for the dark blue but no luck, except for one "boy racer" car that was so modded the guy was out of control. He threw the parts catalog at it.
I think with the hardtop the price might be okay. Year is okay, avoiding 90-91 oil leaks, etc. Probably the 1.6 engine however, not the 1.8. Miles are okay. The "new paint" is scary, if it were a color change, but if the same color, maybe okay. Did '92 Miatas come in yellow?
It's either a cute Lotus look alike or a silly banana, I'm not sure.
Well, you saw the dark blue one I posted. I like that. I've also seen copper and dark grey, which I like both of. But those are the newest gen Miatas. Not sure all what colors were available on the older ones. I'm not sure I've ever seen a yellow one.
Black is always low on my list. Its just too difficult to keep up with and doesn't age well. I think white is sometimes OK. I like it on the new Miata, but not the old ones, for instance.
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Would have to have it checked out, of course, because the new paint would also scare me.
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Yellow is a very forgiving color, as long as the paint doesn't fall off or go flat.
I always get tempted when I see it bidding around $1000, like it is now, but it's not going to stay there. Now granted, it is a nice car, and should get bonus points for those low miles, if they're legit. But shouldn't $6-7K be more than enough for it?
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They did indeed make a yellow miata in 1992 (I believe it was exclusive to that year). The paint was called Sunburst Yellow. If memory serves, they applied the yellow paint over a standard white miata. It's a pretty rare color with only 1500 or so cars painted that color.
It looks pretty good for 144k, the seats must have been redone at some point.
I was trying to think what body color would look good with a yellow hardtop, where you didn't have to paint it.
Green body/ yellow hardtop?
Black/yellow?
That's about it unless you want to look really weird!
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Seems to me the thing would be downright dangerous with an Olds 455 tucked in it!
He said the car might be ready by the end of the week, although I think that's a bit optimistic! I still don't know what the final total's going to be, but at this point I'm in it about $4100.
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I've posted this before, but it's a. still for sale. b. a REAL charming deathtrap
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Not so charming deathtraps
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Andre - Forget that 76 Pontiac. You want a 63 Wildcat. You know you do....
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'63 Wildcat -- that's top dollar. It had better be a top car. Factory AC is a good thing, worth more $$$. Original interior looks a bit tired, would be nice to see (and smell) it.
Engine and engine bay look redone.
RE: Saab Sonnett -- I don't want to crash in a 70s fiberglass car under any circumstances.
RE: Fiat 850 -- on the other hand, it's a small target.
Yeah, as much as I like my mid-70's mastodons, even I'll admit a '76 Bonneville is pretty lame compared to that '63 Wildcat! That thing is pretty sweet!
Is the Desoto next for a freshening?
I think my fintail is going to eventually eat up a little change, too. The tires and brakes are a decade old now, it needs a valve adjustment minimum as it smokes a little when the engine is hot, there's some kind of leak as the underside is grubby - I hope it is just an oil pan gasket, but it is all so dirty I can't tell, and I still consider having the body cleaned up. One of these days...or maybe not.
The car looks kind of forlorn right now, sitting in the back of the shop. The hood is off, windshield out. The fluorescent lights give its pale yellow sort of a radioactive hue. Wish I'd had a camera to take a picture of it.
The DeSoto's next, but maybe not right away. I'm just going to have to see how the economy/stock market do.
For all of the money you are sinking into that battleship, the shop owner should give you some pics of the process!
The DeSoto would make a good retirement project...when/if any of us get to retire :shades: :sick:
My family actually owned one of those little turds, and I jumped a bar ditch in it. Backwards. At 60MPH. Why? Because if you hit a patch of gravel in a curve, the backend will come around so fast there is no way to catch it. On good pavement, handled like a go-cart.
Engine is 843cc and has less horsepower than a VW.
In a hard corner the seat tracks will break and only the seat belt will keep you from flying across the car.
Does not use and oil filter. Change the oil every 1500miles.
And it had cruise control. A slide rod that locked the throttle in place. The only thing that released it was your hand.
Only thing on the piece of junk that was any good was the brakes. That thing would stop so fast the engine would lose oil pressure.
Oh, yeah, the factory supplied jack stuck in a square tube on the side of the car and lifted the whole side at once. Problem was, as the suspension shifted, the jack got closer to the side of the car, and you couldn't let it back down.
We won't go into the rust issues.
Which would just make that one a later model of the same junk. Miserably underpowered car. Had to keep the revs north of 4K to get anything out of the engine.
But didn't the increased cost of life insurance absorb all the profits? :P
And I think you're right, that the color is called Butternut Yellow. My mechanic used that same term. I guess it's possible that Pontiac called it something else, though? Normally I don't like yellow, but this particular car ended up seducing me the moment I saw it, sitting at a little used car lot north of Baltimore, its siren song beckoning me.
As long as it behaves itself, I intend to take this car to the GM Nationals in Carlisle PA next June. I've taken my '76 LeMans the past four years. And while I love that car, I have a feeling that I'm going to sort of forget about it, once I get the Catalina back! There's a light blue '67 Bonneville that's been at that GM show every year since it started in 2001, so it'll be cool to see the two, side-by-side! Here's a pic of the blue one, that I took back in 2006.
In '72, it was the Cutlass in Viking Blue (medium blue metallic). That one was pretty obvious, though. With a white vinyl or convertible top, viewed from behind on a clear day the durn thing almost disappeared. Lot's of those got rearended, my mom's several times.
Now, wouldn't that make an interesting study?
You wouldn't think that silver and asphalt would be colors that blend, but I remember looking out across the hood of that Gran Fury, and noticing how well it blended with the color of the road surface.
My Intrepid, which is silver, has also had plenty of near-misses. Also had some hit-and-runs, but they were all parking lot jobs.
I never thought of pale yellow as a color that would "disappear", but I guess in the right circumstances it could. I guess having a black convertible top might help my car, though. Years ago, soon after I had bought that car, one or two of my acquaintances told me I should get a white top for it. I just couldn't see that, though. I think the yellow and black make a nice contrast, whereas the white would just wash out. Plus, wouldn't a white top be harder to keep clean?
One guy told me I should paint the car red. My first thought was jeez, doesn't the world already have enough big old red convertibles? I guess a lot of people think red is "THE" color to have on an old car though, especially a convertible. I guess I lucked out with my '57 DeSoto, being a combination of red and white. I think I would have actually preferred those pastel greens and blues they used back then. But I guess when shopping for a 1957 DeSoto 33 years later, you sort of take what's available!
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I would think Yellow would be pretty visible at night however.
So.... the story goes, the radar reflection doesn't go back to the radar gun but bounces off towards the moon.
True? Or wistful thinking?
However, you might not get as strong a signal or as fast a signal from a fiberglass car.