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After climbing in and comparing SWB and LWB models, and returning home, I could not find where Lexus provides any comparitive figures on legroom measurements on the LS460, other than obvious vehicle total lengths.
Edmunds does provide the following data for my wife's '05 Avalon which she thoroughly enjoys: front legroom - 41.3"; rear legroom - 40.9" - one of the highlights of the Avalon is back seat legroom.
I am considering getting her an LS460, but I know she would not be pleased if the SWB has less legroom than her Avalon. - thus it would have to be the LWB model.
For compative purposes I would like to know how legroom in the two LS460's stacks up with her Avalon.
Has anyone found where Lexus provides the same information for LS460 models, and how front and rear legroom measurements are determined?
Perhaps our esteemed HOST can forward this to the appropriate engineer.
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Oh, alright, my bad.
I SAT BEHIND THE DRIVER'S SEAT [WHICH I SET FOR MYSELF @ 5'8"]ON A LS460, AND MY SHOES [INSTEPS] HAD TO SLIP UNDER THE FRONT SEAT TO BE THE LEAST BIT COMFORTABLE!
CADILLAC 42.0, MB=42.3 LEXUS REALLY GOOFED ON THIS "LUXURY" POINT!
ANY VALIDITY TO THE RUMOR THAT THE 460LS TKES 170' TO STOP AT 60MPH??-------BRAKES DON'T FEEL AS SMOOTH AS MY FRIEND'S 2007 CADILLAC.
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
A generalization like that makes as much sense as snow in Miami. Give me a break Dan. You change cars because you want to and what drives you to do so are caused by many variables that range from styling to changed driving dynamics. Is someone infantile because they want to paint a room a different color even though the old paint is still fresh and looks fine. Are they infantile because thet want a 1080P TV with a high contrast ratio and a stunning TV picture vs a 720P picture with a lower contrast that is just a very good picture. People buy new things because they are better, safer and deliver more for the dollar than old things and because they have the money to afford the things they want. There's nothing wrong with holding onto your old LS430 and equally there's nothing wrong with those who want to experience a new LS460 or any other lux car. To generalize the way you do is crazy and very sad. Thank God all people don't have your attitude because if they did our economy would have died a long time ago. It's also too bad you have such a chip on your shoulder.
I did it because I could. I did it because I wanted a new car. I did it because my car was 3 years old and I very rarely keep a car longer than 3 years. I have owned outright all but one of my cars (a lease) since I started driving in 1964.
You don't have to have a valid reason (to some people) to get a new car. You only have to validate it to yourself. And that I did.
Back to the topic: I have taken the new LS460 for a short drive and want to go back for a longer test drive. It does have a more germanic feel to it, comparable to the Audi A8 and the VW Phaeton, but still different from a BMW 7 series or an MB S class.
The big question for me would be, do I want a more germanic feel or prefer the old style softer Lexus LS?
Mr. Cheng, I think you need to analize your reasons for getting a whopping 12 new Lexuses over just 4 years! I think I was right in saying that the joy (especially for you) of getting a new car only lasts a few months and then whatever neurosis you have starts the endless desire something newer. I doubt you will ever be happy until you (and many here) come to grips with that simple fact and find some inner peace. At least Mr. Dssxxxx kept his for 3 years which may be a carryover from earlier times when cars started to have problems in that time frame.
I do this unapologetically too. :confuse: I must be stupid.....
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Hello , Happy Holiday Sir :
Re : Analysis of buying multiple Lexus automobiles over short periods of time .
Your Quote : I think I was right in saying that the joy (especially for you) of getting a new car only lasts a few months and then whatever neurosis you have starts the endless desire something newer. I doubt you will ever be happy until you (and many here) come to grips with that simple fact and find some inner peace. At least Mr. Dssxxxx kept his for 3 years which may be a carryover from earlier times when cars started to have problems in that time frame.
The above may or may not be true . HOWEVER :
THERE IS A DISEASE KNOWN AS " LEXITIS "
lexitis effects individuals , or clusters of individuals ; AKA : groups of "LEXI'S" , that must fulfill a NEED
TO OWN MULTIPLE lEXUS AUTOMOBILES IN A CONDENSED TIME SPACE , only to be described as a " living dream " .
It is yet to be "proven" if the there are Lexus cars in the next life to " experience " with effection , or dislike .
the only medication for "lexitis" is to acquire new models as they come off the line .
eventually , the disease runs it's course after time , or
a horrendous dealer experience .
mitchellrowe
After serious consideration I pronouce you mentally well and you can keep buying Lexus's for you non-fatal disease of Lexitis and fee free to stop taking your other meds.
Dan
http://www.lexus.com/images/ebrochures/LS/LS_Page_11.pdf
For the LWB, that comes out to 42.4, larger than both the Caddy and MB.
Doesn't sound like a "Goof" to me.
IBALL
LET US KNORW YOUR EXPERIENCE.
sorry about the "shouting"! i hope those members with eye problems, especially macular degeneration truly appreciated the caps.
iball
In fairness, reading the Consumers Union article, it doesn't look like the LS460 has been tested yet.
My 4 month experience with the LS 460L would indicate to me that it will follow the exceptional reliability lead of its predecessor.
i have been cured of my case of " lexitis "
all my lexus cars were sold INCLUDING the
new LS460 . after speaking kindly about the 460 from day 1 ,
the car developed it's own mind .( one mental case in the car is already 1 too many ) the worst thing i did in cars over the span of 42 years , was trade my 2006 LS430 .
no more lexus cars for me .
Renny
the 460 : from day 1 , i defended the brakes against those who questioned their abilities . however , when at a dead stop, in forward gear , with my right foot on the brake ,
at a traffic light , i found the 460 frequently stepping forward . i applied more pressure with my right foot on the brake pedal . ( to note : i never watched the tachometer ) -
i always thought it was the brake system .
the automobile is so quiet and smooth , unless it is light out , i could not tell the 460 was creeping forward , until i heard ( ears ) creeping in the front brake (s) .
on a very dark night , in the city , i was at a red light
with traffic coming east to west . i crept out far enough to catch a 4 door sedan's rear wheel ( passenger side ).
damage : the front license holder on the 460 , the other car's wheel and tire ( $ 600 ) paid to him .
no one hurt . i do not consume alcohol , or medication that creats tiredness . time was 7:45 pm .
that made me realize the 460 stepping forward , inch by inch , could cost me or others great physical damage .
the 460 is gone , and the only other lexus i am holding is a '92 es that was my mother's . i don't drive it , i just like to see it .
i hope i have been descriptive in my reply to you .
mitchell rowe
I'm waiting, and watching, and in no hurry. Actually quite content with my 430.
The brakes are not as smooth as the NEW brakes & rotors, replaced under warranty, on my 2004 cad.dts
I was really looking fwd. to this model oh well i'll wait another 8 years!
The specs were obtained from cars.com, as the rear leg room is NOT published by LEXUS.I believe they are forcing you into the LS460L