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It is not flooring the car from light to light or running to 90. This was what I was doing several times during my 20 miles. The max RPM memory on the scan gauge said I had hit 6600+ RPM at some point. If your in warm flat country and do not need to run in snow or haul stuff buy the I4 with 2wd, you will be very happy at 30mpg hwy.
From your question I don't think you understand that the Mfg'r do not determin the MPG rating. That is done by the E.P.A. They have some goofy method of calculating these numbers that is not based upon real life driving conditions.
Pictures and panel removal sketches are here.
http://rav4world.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2683
The web is so handy! Sure glad Al Gore took the time out to invent it.
http://rav4world.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2714
You only can expect to get the EPA mileage by driving conservatively. If you use the V6's extra power, you do not get mileage close to the 4 cylinder despite what the sticker says.
Another good example where an estimate is just that "an estimate" is with brake wear. Individuals that race to stop signs and red lights and apply the brake pedal forcefully all the time will require brake work or repairs more frequently than those that do the opposite.
I guess I'm just cheap, I hate spending money for nothing. For better gas mileage, I try to avoid quick starts from a complete stop or racing my car. To make the brakes last longer, I try to avoid quick stops. I look as far ahead as I can to try and time traffic light changes (I coast to the corner if possible). At stop signs I apply only the force required to bring the vehicle to a complete stop (like stepping on egg shells). I'm not recommending anything to anyone. This is just my driving style.
Its a Federal Law from back in the 80's I believe. The only figures an automaker can state are the EPA test figures. Nothing else.
For info: The city test is done at an average speed of 28 mph with several stops at ~75 deg with no AC on a what would be a dead level road in San Diego.
The Hwy test is done at an avg speed of 48 mph!!!
BTW... most vehicles fail to get EPA tests values by a large margin.
From the Hybrid forums this subject has been beaten to death .. but we are all a lot smarter now about how the tests are done, what factors invluence FE and what we as drivers can to to optimse FE.
comparison only. As inaccurate as they are, they
are done the same way for every vehicle. So, even if you
don't get anywhere near the city mileage figure (which more
accurately represents your "average" mileage), an estimated 20 mpg will do better than one estimated at 16 mpg (for example).
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I got mine there.
The deal with Fitzmall was totally painless and actually a pleasure, what with no playing the salesman talking to the sales manager 14 times game, in addition to not having to fool with the financing department (all paperwork was done by Fedex the week before we went).
Briefly, the RAV4 is fantastic. It is powerful, smooth and quiet. I'm not sure why anyone would spend the same money or more on a Highlander, although I am aware the Highlander is a nice rig.
As far as the mileage, I discounted the first tank since it was not topped off when we picked it up. The next 2 tanks delivered 24 MPG, which I consider outstanding since I was driving around 75 MPH and trying as best I could to vary the RPM's for good break in. I would expect to get 26-27 easily if driving 65 MPH on a seasoned engine...pretty damn good considering the performance of the V6, which is substantial.
I never thought I would buy a car like this, but if you have a little time and don't mind a roadtrip, you can save some money. After our expenses, we still netted $1500; worth it, at least in our case.
If you don't really need them why pay $700 for it?
That's exactly how I would describe it--good job Silver. In fact, depending on the time of day/weather it can easily pass for gray. beth may be driving past them all the time and not noticing. The website colors are terrible, which is why, as an artist, I'm not much enamored of any color reproduction on the web (of course, it's no worse than poor printing), particularly when the file sizes are small. Best to see if you can check out the real thing on a lot.
Gogiboy
ps it's my favorite color too, despite Terry's axiom about no-sale green and blue.
Gogiboy
The brakes are fine...good pedal feel and reasonably short stopping distances. No complaints at all.
The acceleration? This thing is a rocketship. No need to mash the throttle to go, simply toe it and you're gone. Give it a little goose going 70 and you are literally at 90 in just a few seconds.
All in all, a most impressive package, much better than I anticipated. I was hoping my wife wouldn't like it so I could drive it...no luck there. My 2005 Mazda 3, which seemed perfectly fine before I left, now seems like an underpowered coal-cart.
I don't think so. I have a 2000 Honda Civic HX which the EPA says I'd get 44 hwy. After 75,000 miles, and calculating MPG every fill up, I have never gotten above 41 MPG and have only gotten 40+ MPG on about 4 occasions. I have gotten mid 20's all highway driving more often than I get 40+ as EPA would estimate. My average is probably in the low 30's for hwy driving.
When I've driven friends cars on trips we've never achieved EPA MPG estimates either.
I'd expect the 4 cylinder 4x4 Rav4 real world MPG to be around 15-24 based on the EPA numbers and reports here.
mpg on highway trips as long as they didn't go 75-80 mph.
The V6 would probably be within a few mpg of the I4 on the highway and mid to upper teens (city).
Of course YMMV!
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