Toyota Tundra Owner Experiences

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  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    ya need to add this to your stories..."To make a long story short....." LOL

    Dean
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    2 jobs and school full time...you forgot about how you get up every morning at 2am and get to bed at midnight and it snows 12 feet everyday and you have to walk 20 miles to school and it's uphill both ways ...LOL. Please don't tell one of your "jobs" is a paper route. ;)
  • f150rulesf150rules Member Posts: 195
    Nothing wrong with being a car salesman, except the only ones that ever make a real living at it have to lie and cheat their customers. Sales is a borderline honest profession anyway, but car sales is the worst. Someone has to be lying an awful lot, there are plenty of new cars and trucks on the road.
  • f150rulesf150rules Member Posts: 195
    Three careers that I have learned are corrupt and dishonest. Politicians (given), Policeman (know first hand), and Car Sales. Just my personal observations.
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Your right about corrupt salesmen. Especially Toyota salesmen. They've sold 165,000 vibrating Tundra's with defective tires, wheels and brake adjusters. And now I see on Tundrasolutions that the engine are starting to blow up (if the differential doesn't go first). That 6 year/60,000 mile warranty is defective also(the warranty's ink fades in about 3 months)
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Why dont you believe me??? Why would i have to lie about that? I have nothing to gain?

    Ryan
  • f150rulesf150rules Member Posts: 195
    Sorry that this has been your experience buying from Toyota salesmen. I didn't mean to imply that Toyota salesmen are any worse than another brand. One in the same if you ask me. If you are finally starting to see the light about the Toyota's, per above post, then why are you so defensive about facts presented to you?
    Are these symptoms of denial?

    Police cars are all 4.6l Fords. I guess they should start looking at Toyota cars now that they have a V8 car engine. After all, all them years of using Ford V8's has proven how unreliable junk Fords are.
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Ryan: I answered your question. see post 470

    f150rules: Yes I'm starting to see the light, it's very bright, getting brighter...wait, oh god! it's another f-150 on fire. Just another victim of ford's tire quality control.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    No you didnt well kinda the second but not the first how come you dont believe my 2 job and school story?

    Ryan
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Your constantly posting on edmunds for hours! I only work 12 hrs a day so I have time to (6 hours sleep, 2hrs workout, 4 hours free time. When I had a full load of "real" college classes, I was either at school, work or doing homework (i.e. writing papers, etc). I cannot imagine participating in any quality education program, working and still sitting in front of my computer for hours, posting on Edmunds of all places.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Ok well at work im on the computer for 8-10 hrs a day a post takes 2 min at the most.

    As of now i am on summer break ANY COLLEGE student former or present would know this. I did have summer school but that was late at night and i rarely post at night just during the day. I do not have much to do at work and i need to space it out at work. So on break and lunch i go here. Once school starts you will hear alot less of me trust me 2 wks more. Lucky you

    Ryan
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Your the one who claimed to be working 2 jobs while going to school full time.
    I'll be going to Instructor Engineer school in 3 weeks, so I won't be able to enjoy or miss your absence. My course is boiled down to 4 months, it's sink or swim baby! BTW, I enjoy debating this with you. It's fence sitters who I actually despise.
  • coming_backcoming_back Member Posts: 1
    As my username implies I am coming back to Toyota after a three year hiatus of driving a Ford Explorer RAG! But first in response to those badmouthing Toyota Salespeople I have run into some of those less than honest individuals. They worked at dealerships that were bought out by owners of local domestic vehicle dealerships who could not compete with Toyota, Nissan etc. so they joined them. Unfortunately they placed their Detroit sales style into those formerly reputable dealer franchises. I can tell you of one in particular. The Toyota shop in Easley, S.C. had the best service dept. I had ever experience for my regular maintenance work (2 years ago before I moved from area). They personify what the Toyota name and quality is all about.

    I just love that Tundra and feel that Toyota has got this one right. Talked to a recent purchaser of a F150 and oh how he wishes he would have waited. He is indeed heartbroken. He knows Quality is Job 1 and that slogan belongs to the Tundra.

    In response to Toyota vs. Ford (or any other domestic) I will not comment on this topic because my personal experience of owning several domestics and several toyotas would be too much of an embarrassment to Detroit. My stories would be so laughable that I have just too much pity on their poor souls. I am coming back to toyota and I cannot wait. To you folks at Ford, I gave you one last chance. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and even gave you the chance to redeem yourselves by allowing you to correct an obvious major flaw in my vehicle and you would not stand behind your product. A manufacturer who is unwilling to back your product does not have the privilege to reap the rewards of my purchase money. To the folks at Toyota I am coming back!!!!

    To the individual in post #173: A vibration problem is pale compared to the replacements of the Ford V6 4.0L SOHC engines due to the cam tensioner and cassette problems, or to my (and others) total transmission failure at 25,000 miles (no towing, 50% interstate miles). Check out the number of TSBs (technical service bulletins) for toyota tundras vs. f150. Geez! What does it take for someone like you?
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    You will not be disappointed. The Tundra simply completely outclasses the Big3. Read the comparison test in the Nov. '99 issue of Truck Trend. Tundra #1.

    Read the comparison test in the May '00 issue of Motor Trend. Tundra #1 again.

    The Big3 owners are very insecure about spending way too much money on their inferior trucks. That is why they hang out in the Tunda forums. I feel sorry for them.
  • tundra_guytundra_guy Member Posts: 49
    Always happy to have Toyota owners show up!
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    The Tundra simply
    completely outclasses the Big3???

    How so???

    Hmmm motor TREND truck TREND

    "TRENDS dont last they come and go."

    Ryan
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    More of that famous GM quality:

    bought a new 2000 chevy silverado 5.3 z71and it
    has been thru 5 qts of oil in 6600 miles. the
    dealer has not been any help as to a solution. I
    am
    really p.o. about it. Has anyone else had this
    kind of oil consumption problem. The dealer has me
    doing an oil useage chart and say's it may be in
    the pcv or oil seals. The motor rattles bad
    also.They are talking about a possible engine swap
    but I am not going to be happy with a new truck
    having the motor changed. Any suggestions no ford
    remarks please
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Concerning Vibrations:

    I've found that no matter what I drive (yes, including the Sonoma 2500 we have here) there is always a tiny bit of irregular vibration on seeminly smooth highways. I bring this up because some people are confusing this with a rythmic wheel shake and or body shake. What do you think?
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    you arent the sharpest knife in the drawer. Ok ill let this slide because your a tundra owner.

    I wanna see this SONOMA 2500. I didnt know they made a subcompact 3/4 ton. Does it come with the 4 cylinder too?

    Ok sorry but would that possibly be Sierra 2500?

    I agree on the little vibration yes like when going over bumps and such but it seems as if many of the silverado and tundra people are having bad vibration problems that are beyond just a slight shake in the steering wheel.

    I think you have are taking me wrong though. I am in no way knocking your truck. if i was doing that i would be saying things like its not a truck its to small yadad yada yada the list goes on. Just showing you some real world experiences of people having trouble with tundras because you think that all the tundras are problem free and they arent.

    Ryan
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    I have driven all of the current 1/2 tons. My choice of the Tundra was pretty easy to make. A couple of things you'll here from the old-3 crowd:

    Price: They falsely claim the Tundra cost more
    Vibration: They claim the dealer lots are full of vibrating Tundra's. This started out as a Silverado problem and was foisted upon the Tundra by bitter GM owners. There are now 12 Tundra's at Travis, AFB. None vibrate. I know 20 owners who have no vibration problems. If there was a problem, at least some of these trucks would have it.

    The proof is in the pudding, so be sure and drive all the curent truck models before purchase. It will, if anything, make you appreciate the Tundra.
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    I'll go look again, right now!
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    See how do you like it. Exactly what i was getting at. WOOHOO.

    Ok my point

    "They claim the dealer lots are full of
    vibrating Tundra's. This started out as a Silverado
    problem and was foisted upon the Tundra by bitter
    GM owners. There are now 12 Tundra's at Travis,
    AFB. None vibrate. I know 20 owners who have no
    vibration problems."

    Never claimed the lots were full of them i just brought to the table a few owners tales of vibrations. I know 20+ silverados owners whos trucks are perfect.

    So my point as i finally have made is that you can say ALL silverados or ALL tundras have something wrong with them but that is untrue only a very small percentage do. I have no reason to be bitter my truck is Great i love it. Now that us silverado owners have made some claims of vibrations and other problems and defended it as not all of them are bad when we presented the tundra owners the same way we were presented they have the same answer. Why??? Because its true.

    many of you might not see my point or get what RWELL just said and how it relates to his thinking of silverados but i just did woohoo thank god.

    Ryan
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    let me add to the because its true not every truck has a problem i know thatll get turned around the wrong way sorry
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    OK here's the scoop.

    gmc jimmy
    yukon (3500)
    sierra (2500)
    I don't know why I was thinking Sonama. Maybe because my newphew put a rebuilt in his before I left the states. It still doesn't run right because the computer is screwed up. $1500.00 for a new computer. That won't happen!
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    OK, lets see if I have this straight. There is one participant who thinks success in sales requires lying and stealing, one who badgers salesmen by bragging that he is going to buy a competitors product and can't figure out why they get rude and another who thinks only Toyota salesmen are rude. Did I miss anybody's stereotype?

    Allow me to point out that I have always advocated shopping for the dealership and salesman just as hard as you shop the price of a vehicle. If you can't find a salesman or dealer to deal straight with you, don't buy another product, buy the product from somebody else.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Yukon (3500???) they are half tons
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Dude! It's freakin' pitch black dark at night in the desert. I braved scorpians, camel spiders and snakes to take a look for you. If you want more details, you'll have to wait until MY morning.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    Dude, mellow out! Don't you have some sand you need to kick in somebody's face right now? Why don't you scamper off and get to it.
  • tundra_guytundra_guy Member Posts: 49
    Red must be short for redneck. Why don't you go back to the hills. that's right your Chevy don't run or you would be hunting for brain buy a real truck "TUNDRA"
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    THe yukon is a half ton SUV not a 1 ton (3500).

    Ryan
  • dogsterdogster Member Posts: 94
    Yeah he bought a Toyota to drive back home from the desert, not walk like some owners of other makes I know of. And before I get called a Toyota geek, I've owned 12 GMs and 3 Fords. I also sold Chevies for a very short time - I quit after the sales manager made me sell a Z28 with a factory dent in the roof - painted, waxed and polished at the factory. Customer didn't notice it because it was night. He also had me sell another used GM with a bad engine bearings to an old couple buying a newer car on their social security checks. I then worked as an Olds service writer for a while before getting out of GM. I moonlighted as a dealer exchange driver for a Toyota dealer group and was amazed at the difference in the product.
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    Budlitedude3:

    Oh, and don't ever plan on rebuilding that engine.
    They are like all [non-permissible content removed] and Tiawanese parts....use
    once, then throw away."

    F150Rules:
    For as long as I can remember, people looked for
    anything made in Taiwan, Korea, China, Japan, etc.
    Stayed far far away from it because the products
    were made cheap and with slave labor. They still
    have an element of that name of use once then throw away.
  • redsilveradoredsilverado Member Posts: 1,000
    what do you do? cut and pasting this statment all
    over the boards is like something a burned out 9
    yr. old would do. it took a chevy guy to point
    this out to you anyway, so obviously your news is
    old news.

    tundra guy, dogster and cliffy, i have no problem
    with you guys and i do not mean to harass toyota
    owners, it's just that Bama and Rwell like to
    shoot their noggins everywhere else but never
    reply ro any questions. insult after insult is
    all we're seeing and quite FRANKLY it's pretty
    embarassing for you guys to be considered in the
    same class as these 2 nitwits. so for now i'll
    promiss to quit posting here, but please put
    ralph and malph back in the back yard where they
    won't get hurt.
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    So you think serving in the military, half way around the world, ensuring American's get their oil makes me stupid? What are you, Canadian? ;)
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    This post illustrates their mentality:

    "I sat in a 2000 Tahoe yesterday at the dealer
    while I was waiting for work on wife's Caprice.
    For some reason the headroom is not near what it is
    in the Silverado. I wouldn't beable to wear my
    cowboy hat while driving one. Must be the lack of
    headroom gives Tahoe owner's claustriphobia and a
    headache. That's why they act that way.
    matt"

    In other words:
    They're worried about their cowboy hats fitting! This is one of their major criteria for selecting a truck (quality and dependability rate low on their list)
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    These Big3 Owners need to realize what the best full size p/u is.
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Maybe the following GM testimonial is why Quad/werk/ryan/cdean/deadsilverado are so upset all the time. They bash the Tundra to ease their horrible case of buyers remorse:

    " Silverado 2500 (marc34) Wed 09 Aug '00 (08:38 PM)

    I can't even begin to tell everyone how excited we
    were for the new 99 Silverado's to come out. And
    now, I can't begin to tell everyone how
    disappointed and just plain pissed off I am to this
    day. I've looked around these talks and I can
    honestly say that our truck has probably had
    everything mentioned in here go wrong and then
    some. Stereo's, speakers, rear windows, sliding
    windows, both front windows, tracking on the driver
    seat, replaced overhead, bad stitching, fog lamps,
    doors, chirping noises...the list goes on and on.
    So now, 1 year later...always being a Chevy man, I
    just ordered the Ford F250 Lariat SD Crew cab
    Diesel. Believe me, it can't possibly get any
    worse."
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    Ummm... if you dont mind, lets stick to rating the Tundra and not bashing the competition. You are just doing what they do.
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    I agree, this site should just be Tundra owners posting about their trucks. The reality is that some unfortunate chevy owners feel the need to post to this site. The only reason I can come up with is Tundra envy.
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    That would be great, cliffy! But the only way the domestic guys seem to leave this topic alone is to embarrass them with the truth. I've been visiting this site since I got my Tundra over a year ago. Being polite and understanding gets you nowhere with these guys (been there and tried that). I don't back away from confrontation and I won't play switzerland. Your welcome to keep trying, but for any serious, unharrassed discourse the only option is tundrasolutions.com
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    is better, but curiosity got the better of me so...I hopped on over to the tundrasolutions.com site. Found the reading in general to be interesting. With my experiences with GM, I'm glad I'm not alone. Don't like to copy/paste but this one post really threw me for a loop. so please bear with me and read along:

    Originally posted by Mark440:
    I am noticing that some are feeling a little beat down, ready to unload their Tundra, or just let it all go.
    And those are exactly the things Toyota counts on.

    Get back on the phone. Jump. Scream. [non-permissible content removed]. Holler. File complaints again and again and again until they are damned tired of hearing your voice. And then, file some more.

    Every person you see on the street who compliments your truck or co-workers who may be looking to buy....let them know about the problems you have and MAKE SURE you tell them how Toyota has basically told you to piss off. There are quite a few WITHOUT the problem who are aware of it. And that is only the start.

    Me? I will not quit until this truck rides like glass, stops on a dime, and performs like it is supposed to. Anything less is a design problem.

    I have been writing to Senators and Congressman suggesting they introduce legislation that would require ALL car and truck manufacturers to present buyers with a complete listing of existing TSB's BEFORE they sign any paperwork. Even going as far that the TSB's must be posted on the window with the sales sticker. AND, that all existing TSB's have been implemented on the vehicle they are buying. If I had known, well, we wouldn't be having this conversation at all.

    I, too, went looked at other trucks. (Naturally, when you tell them about your horror story with the Tundra, they all look shocked and amazed.) But, I am toyota to the bone, and I will get one that drives and handles like it is supposed to. It may take awhile, and at 45 years old, I figure I got about 30-40 years to keep haranging their butts till they get it right. Consistent. Persistent

    Actually, you could substitute any manufacturer in his post in place of Toyota or any vehicle for Tundra. It appears that buying Toyota means nothing. What's more important than what brand you buy is what dealer you buy it from. My $.33 worth for today. Y'all have a good Sunday now.

    Dean
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    I couldn't agree more. The weak link for manufacturers is the way they interface through the dealers. It seems that honest up front dealerships go under, while the "slick saleman" type thrive. I like the way Saturn does it. They don't play a smoke and mirrors game trying to make you "buy this car today!" I went to 3 Toyota dealerships trying to get away from the old school of autosalesman. All of these neandrathals were telling me that they couldn't sell for less than a certain price(which was @2000 over invoice!). Finally had enough of the games and used a purchasing agent to get my Tundra. I personally believe salesman, real estate agents, etc. make their living by providing an uneeded and many times unwanted service. The good news is their numbers are dwidling thanks to internet services that provide the basic sales service without the hustle.
  • f150rulesf150rules Member Posts: 195
    If the Tundra topics were left to Tundra owners only, they would get no activity and die, much like this one has.

    There just isn't enough Tundra owners for one thing. For another, Tundra owners don't know mechanics or much about their trucks to share. The only thing they can do is stroke each others ego about how great their midsize truck is.
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    If I'm not mistaken, the topic at hand is Tundra owners rate your trucks. Not F150 owner flame Tundra owners. But please correct me if I'm wrong. Seems to me that you're not offering much of anything...but, again, correct me if I'm wrong. My $.02...
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    Thanks.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    I'm glad you are now the arbiter of what is important and what isn't in this topic. I guess I should send you a gift for keeping our little topic a float. Perhaps you need a seal for your transfer case like the one in our shop right now?
  • f150rulesf150rules Member Posts: 195
    You must be thinking of the strawberry fields of Tundra vibrations, access door problems, hard starts, and other widely known Tundra problems. It's ok, I know how easily confused you Tundra owners get. If you were clear headed, you wouldn't have bought a Tundra for more money.

    Hows that Tacoma sized open differential doing ya? Oh, you don't ever use your truck for what a truck is for? Guess that is why you love it so much.

    How much do you Toyota Salesman get paid to dish that crap out to the public?
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    I want to ask actual tundra owners about a few things. I know about the vibration problems on the initial batch of Tundras last year and I know this issue is dead. What I don't know about is this mystery door problem. People keep referring me to Tundrasolutions but I really don't have time to get involved in another bulletin board. Would somebody tell me how the rear door can open without first opening the front door? I don't want to hear this information third hand. If you had this problem, tell me what happened so I can understand. Otherwise, I will continue to believe that this is a made up issue.

    Also, what hard starts? Certainly, you all realize that Toyota delays ignition for several revolutions to allow oil to get where it should be when starting the truck. On cold days, it might crank for a couple of seconds before firing. Is anybody else experiencing something worse than this?

    I have sold dozens of these trucks. I have yet to have one come back with any of these problems. If any Tundra owner can enlighten me on these issues, I would appreciate it. Ford owners need not reply.
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    It's impossible for the rear door to open without first unlatching and opening the front door. I'm sure you already know that. The slight delay in start (approx one rev or 1/2 second) allows the cylinder wall to receive a fresh coat of oil prior to combustion. F150 is zbad/bld/dbhull, and once again he's grasping at straws for dirt on the Tundra. He should be spending his time getting his fatality causing firestone tires replaced on his f150. After that, he should concentrate on forcing ford to replace his cracking doors.
  • rushfan2112rushfan2112 Member Posts: 27
    The statement that we overpaid for our Tundras is also a myth as far as I'm concerned. As I've said in several previous posts, I evaluated all 4 of the full size, 1/2 ton, extended cab, 4x4 trucks and they all had virtually the same sticker price of ~29,200 here in Southern California.

    My final decision was between the Tundra and the F150. I managed to snag my 4WD/TRD/SR5/Access Cab Tundra for 27,200 (exactly 2K off the sticker price). As I said, the comparable F150 also had a sticker price of about 29,200 but it also had a dealer markup of 2,000 which put it close to 32,000. Since I decided to go for the Tundra, I didn't even try to negotiate with the Ford dealer. Nevertheless, I doubt that I could have negotiated 4k off the stcker price of the F150. I'm good, but I'm not *that* good :)
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