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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2006 and newer



  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    I think this would be the best vehicle to buy! They pulled it off for some random quality control and apparently it's OK. The 40 miles is a small price to pay.
  • Thanks to all for the quick responses.
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Central OhioPosts: 431
    Am I the only one that finds the 2006 Mountaineers appearance a disappointment? The new Wheels are horrible looking. The interior is also bad. I'm so glad I bought a new one back in 2004. It is so much better inside and out as far as appearance goes. I do like the new Explorer. As far as buying a new Mountaineer in the future, there is no way I will consider unless they change them. All I can say is hideous.
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  • does anyone know if the 06 allows you to check your transmission fluid? To me this was a big mistake on fords part, taking away the dipstick on my 05. Fortunately I have the extended warranty so no worries.
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    I consider this a good sign.

    There are people like you, and others like my wife, who love the Mountaineer, but dislike the Explorer. Because of the differences, a broader market segment is satisfied.
  • kabillkabill Posts: 35
    I'm extremely impressed with the '06 Explorer's 3rd row room. I thought the Honda Pilot was the only midsized vehicle with a "realistic" 3rd row. The Explorer is actually roomier--two adults could go a long way in the seats-- plus you don't have to remove the headrests to fold down the row, like you do on the Pilot. By the way, I thought the Jeep Commander would have similar, if not better, accessibilty, but it's 3rd row is useless and its overall cargo room is abysmal.
  • kabillkabill Posts: 35
    Honest question-- if Explorers are so great, why haven't you kept one for more than 2 years?
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    if Explorers are so great, why haven't you kept one for more than 2 years?

    Some people are just addicted to the new car smell? ;)

    tidester, host
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Posts: 792
    It seems that the new Ford Edge and other CUVs will overtake traditonal SUVs in sales in 2006, but comparing the fuel costs is interesting.

    I was surprised to see on Ford's media web site that the fuel milage of the Edge will only be in the mid 20-MPG range on the highway. Ford shows 18-19 city and 24 highway and premium required for its Mazda CX-7 sibling. Even though I drive over 35,000 miles per year, a CX-7 would only save me about $300 per year over an Explorer Limited V8 (with regular at $2.40 and premium at $2,60). Even though the Edge will run on regular, and probably achieve a bit better mileage than the CX-7, it would probably only save me about $900 per year on fuel vs the Explorer Limited V8. For someone who drives more typical distances, the annual savings would be less than half those amounts.

    The problem is the weight - according to Ford, an Edge with front wheel drive will weigh 4,086 pounds, while Edmunds shows that an Explorer Limited V8 with rear wheel drive weighs 4,531 pounds - just 445 pounds more!

    The price of the Edge and other CUVs will be lower than that of the traditional SUVs, so if there are any significant savings to be had, it will only be there. However, the traditional SUV has more interior space, the option of a third row seat, and towing capabilities which the CUVs can't match.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    "The Ford Explorer received the highest five-star crash rating from NHTSA for both front- and side-impact crash resistance." (ditto Mountaineer).

    Ford SUVs Get Top Safety Ratings From NHTSA (Inside Line)

    Steve, Host
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,703
    Just 445 pounds more...if I just stop driving my mother-in-law around in any vehicle I own, I will save 445 pounds or more...think it'll help me???

    Don't let my wife see this post...if any of you publish it, I will deny it MOST vehemently...well, VERY vehemently...well, I will deny it...sort of...maybe... ;) ;) :blush:

  • ottavottav Posts: 31
    I agree about the 18" wheels - they're terrible.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 12,036
    why would the cx-7 save $300 vs explorer and edge $900 vs same if their mileage is not too different?
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  • jefferygjefferyg Posts: 418
    A friend of mine used to own a tire store. He had a guy about your m-i-l's size come in and complain about the tires wearing on the inside shoulders. Wendell finally solved the problem by aligning the front end with the guy sitting in the car. So I'd say, yes, 445 pounds can make a BIG ;) difference.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Posts: 792
    The CX-7 requires premium fuel, while the others use regular.
  • I need help - I have a new 2006 Explorer w/ front air only - the air conditioning makes a loud popping noise every 12 seconds when it is on. I have taken it back to the dealership and they have dubbed this a design flaw - does anyone have any suggestions on how to give a car back? Ford has already sent an engineer but unless enough people complain (it's only hot enough in Texas in January to run an airconditioner) no "fix" will happen - the car is DRIVING ME CRAZY!
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    My 2006 Mountaineer has a periodic "Thunk", that can almost be felt as well as heard. 12 second interval seems about right. It goes away when A/C is off.

    Are we talking the same thing?
  • Looking for input from outdoors type people. Considering buying a 2006 Explorer or Mountaineer. We pull a 4000 pound camper. Definitely going with the V-8. What do you recommend - a 4WD Explorer or AWD Mountaineer? We camp in the mountains and rarely go off-roading but often take forest roads or roads labeled "4wd" because we like to backpack and mountainbike and go skiing in winter. Currently have a 2000 Explorer with 4WD. Essentially, will we be happy with the towing capabilities of these vehicles, and will we be disapointed if we choose AWD instead of 4WD?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 12,036
    i do go outdoors occsionally, so i'll respond. obviously, you need the towing package. overall, i prefer the 3 mode drive system in the explorer to awd. something simple like tire pressures can make a big difference in the feel of the handling in either type.
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  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    I will be towing a 21 ft, 5,500# travel trailer from Green Valley, AZ to Ann Arbor, MI & back this summer. 2006 Mountaineer AWD, 4.6.

    The only advantage I see in the Explorer 4WD is the hi/low range capability. I do off-roading, and can't imagine ever needing low range. The AWD does an excellent job of powering the proper wheels when in the nasty stuff. The Mountaineer AWD also has the ability for driver to select 4WD ... all 4 wheels receiving power, regardless.

    By all means get the $150 class III trailer tow option. It's a terrific value.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    I stopped by the local Ford Dealer to make a service appointment for my company provided Taurus. I looked at a new 2006 Explorer XLT. One word came to mind... unremarkable. I traded in an '02 Explorer with the rear-end whine on a '05 4Runner. At least on my '02 Explorer, I got body colored door handles at no extra charge. So you pay 31K to 32K and get an ugly matte black-plastic door handle? Granted, Ford has said they have made powertrain improvments, but the first thing people notice is the appearance of a vehicle. And this redesign reminds me of the appearance of the 500....unremarkable. They had a FULLY-LOADED Explorer on the lot at 41K, you gotta be nuts to spend that on a vehicle like the Explorer. I'll drive my 4Runner for 4 or 5 years and it will still be worth more than another used Explorer. Ford is running scared in terms of styling after the Taurus disaster of several years ago.......
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 12,036
    Hi Chuck1,
    I agree with you about the '06 explorer being overpriced, but it's not a lot different for 4Runners. You can find $Runners listed over 41k too. The local dealers are offering over 5K off sticker on them, so I wouldn't be too confident in the resale value, depending on what you paid.
    One the great features of the '02-'05 explorers is their overall practicality. there are not too many if any other vehicles that can match it.
    It has not been trouble free, the plastic panel on the rear hatch just cracked. i guess i got away with it so long because it was always parked in a garage overnight. i have started parking it outside if i was going to take it to work. That does not change how terrific it is overall.
    No, I am not happy that I will have to pay to get it fixed. :(
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  • ajmtbmajmtbm Posts: 245
    the rear hatch was a common problem. we had ours replaced under warranty, and out of warranty it broken again. they fixed it for free.

    i woould call ford and since it was a common problem see if they would fix it for free. you have nothing to lose.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    it has not been trouble free, the plastic panel on the rear hatch just cracked.

    I agree with the other post. I had this replaced twice under warranty on my '02.(Along with my transmission solenoid, power window motor.) Call Ford, they may spring for it.

    What really bugged me was Ford not replacing the rear end that had a whine from 55 to 65 mph. I was told it just "wasn't that bad". Well, I voted with my pocket book and bought a Toyota.
  • Well, I got to say, "Cant you guys negotiate?" I went to my local Ford dealership and I was able to negotiate a new 2006 Explorer V8 Limited Tri-cashmere/Black, with everything but rear entertainment for $33,500 and they were offering an extended warranty on it as well! I did not buy it since since I'm still checking out another variety of vehicles. Well good luck all!
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 12,036
    negotiating a price is not a problem. i just don't like starting with that high a number (41k).
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  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    "with everything but rear entertainment for $33,500 and they were offering an extended warranty on it as well! I did not buy it"

    Sir, the reality is that the price you received doesn't mean a thing if you didn't buy it. I would suggest spending some time over on the "dealer boards" here on edmunds. Giving you a "lowball price" so you will return to that particular dealer is one of the oldest tricks in the book......
  • If you are thinking of buying a new '06 Explorer with the V-8, kiss fuel economy goodbye. Results after driving about 3700 miles, on straight level freeway, at mostly an indicated 65-68 MPH: 16.3 MPG. In town, I averaged 12.3. OUCH !! Unless you need to tow heavy loads, skip the V-8 and get the old V-6 instead. The V-6 should be good for maybe 18-19 on the highway, and maybe 15 in town.
    The only other thing I hate about this station wagon: these CUSSED DOOR PULL HANDLES. Who the heck designed these ? It's as though they themselves never actually TRIED THEM OUT in the real world !! I have alread stoved a thumb, and sprained my wrist, trying to pull the door shut. Also, be prepared to DING UP OTHER people's doors !! These heavy doors will get away from you as you try to regrab the door after your hand hold slips off that dumb lower pull handle design. ALSO: Does anybody at FMC know how to design a 1) rear end and 2) power steering pump that doesn't WHINE itself to death (on a BRAND NEW VEHICLE) ?
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    "1) rear end and 2) power steering pump that doesn't WHINE itself to death (on a BRAND NEW VEHICLE) ?"

    I had the rear-end whine on my '02. They wouldn't fix it.

    You know, this is one of the reasons Ford is in trouble. The cost cutting is beyond belief!
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    My 2006 Mountaineer 4.6 AWD, over the first 2,700 miles has averaged, overall, 19.3 MPG. I run 75-80 on the expressway.

    Except for an out-of-balance drive shaft replaced under warranty, it has been flawless ... except for the CUSSED DOOR PULL HANDLES. And it's one of the first 1,000 produced.

    For those who disregard the vehicle based on appearance, drive it for an enlightening experience.
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