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    tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,243
    Thanks. Didn't know they raced at night! Definitely need the light the way.
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    edited March 2013
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    BIGGER.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,174
    edited March 2013
    Hmm, not too far from me.

    I will just pick off an obscured car, I think I see a ~64 T-Bird hiding behind the phone booth on the left.

    Knowing this region, some of these cars are still around today.
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    steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited March 2013
    I may be eating there next month (seems like the usual one we hit is further off the street and has all the old canoes hanging from the ceiling though). :shades:

    Two Bugs and a Valiant.
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    ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    A mere photo quickens the pulse. :shades:
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    lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    edited March 2013
    The car on the street is a 1962 Cadillac.

    The cars in the parking lot are a 1963 Pontiac Tempest, 1965 Rambler Classic wagon, 1962 Buick, early '60 Corvair wagon, VW Beetle, 1960-61 Valiant.

    The car behind the Cadillac might be a 1965 Chrysler Newport.

    The cars parked down the street appear to be a black 1960 DeSoto and a white VW Beetle.
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,174
    Funny thing, that Chrysler behind the Caddy is the same color as a 68 Newport that I can see right now from my front room window - probably the same car. Photo was probably taken in 1993, knowing some parts of Seattle.
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    lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Cloudless sky in Seattle?
    Fort Lewis - Been there, done that.
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    berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Is that a Valiant or a Lancer. My view isn't all that clear, but it looks like the tail lights may be round?
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    stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098
    Can't believe no one mentioned it - the lady is about to get squished!
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    Can't believe no one mentioned it - the lady is about to get squished!

    Nah, Seattle's probably one of those places where traffic must yield to pedestrians in a crosswalk. I once stepped off a curb in Hollywood CA and inadvertantly triggered a sound explosion as a soda truck screeched to a hold and several thousand glass bottles started clinking together.

    I had every intention of letting him go by but being from out of state had no idea he was legally required to stop as soon as my foot hit the street. :P

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    Extra points if you can name the plane.

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    lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Bristol
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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,711
    Bristol Freighter, that is. Not to be confused with the Bristol Fighter (aka Brisfit):
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,174
    Looks like Aston Martin DB2
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    edited March 2013
    Looks like Aston Martin DB2

    Close it's an Aston-Martin DB2/4.

    The plane is indeed a Bristol Freighter, not to be confused with a Bristol Fighter :P >
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    grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    edited March 2013
    G'day

    The first hatchback is an Aston Martin DB2/4

    The Silver City Airways plane is a Bristol Freighter. It was supposed to be an airliner but came into its own as a Car Ferry between Britain and France. I think it flew between Cherbourg and Southampton. It really was a late '40s and '50s phenomenon. I doubt that anything below a Grand Tourer was ever carried.

    Oddly, the Freighter pretty much established the concept of palletised cargo and thence, shipping containers, flying rail freight between the North and South Islands of New Zealand. New Zealand is not the centre of the universe, but frequently comes up with good ideas for complex problems.

    My recollections of Southampton Airport are not good; on landing from a much delayed flight from Jersey, the plane lost a large portion of the ceiling onto my head. There is something surreal about farewelling a flight by handing big chunks of their plane back.

    Cheers

    Graham
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    There's always a bit of debate about the definition of "hatchback". Some purists insist that to be a real hatchback, the hatch has to open across the full width of the car, or tail light to tail light. IF one accepts THAT definition, then probably the MGB GT would be the first true "hatch".
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    edited March 2013
    Some purists insist that to be a real hatchback, the hatch has to open across the full width of the car, or tail light to tail light. IF one accepts THAT definition, then probably the MGB GT would be the first true "hatch".

    We've already had this discussion but let me remind you that the Autobianchi Primula dates back to 1964, a year before MG introduced the hard roof version of the MG-B. The Primula was a pioneering effort that combined a hatchback with a transverse front-wheel drive layout.

    I'm a big fan of the MGBGT but the forgotten Primula was the first real hatchback by most definitions and had a modern layout as well.

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    Oddly the two-door coupe versions did not have the big hatch. :shades:

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    lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    The flags indicate the president of the Czech Republic.
    Skoda? Early 50s.
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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yeah I think the Autobianchi has to get status as the world's first production hatchback, and the MGB GT (probably) as the first to be marketed in the USA. I've really tried to research this question as to when the MGB GT first was introduced to the public in an auto show but can't quite pin it down. Given that the first production car's VIN dates to Oct '65, you'd have to give the nod, so far, to the Italian.

    The back ends bear some resemblance to each other....hmmm...and the Primula *almost* did win "European Car of the Year" --edged out by the Austin 1800 (oh, dear).
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    edited March 2013
    Yup, it's a 1948 Skoda VOS, most of which went to government officials.

    Our first family car was a 1947 Frazer. There's such a strong resemblance between the VOS and a 4'7-'48 Kaiser/Frazer that it has to be more than coincidental>

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    -1948 Frazer Manhattan

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    lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Interesting that, unlike the USA, the country flag is on the driver's side.
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    lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...I always considered this the first hatchback:

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    ...I always considered this the first hatchback:

    That works for me, those probably had more cargo space than a Tahoe or Yukon.

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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,711
    For me 'hatchback' doesn't include a tailgate.
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    andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,690
    can anyone ID this dash?
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    I'm asking because I honestly don't know...to me it looks almost home-made, like out of a customized car or something. Also, bonus points if you recognize what tv show that frame grab is off of...
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,174
    Wood + toggle switches + weird controls + funky radio= British - many 60s era British cars are kind of kit car like, even if they are production models :shades:
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    ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    No 2 of them exactly the same. ;)
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    edited March 2013
    Probably a Lotus Elan S1 or S2. This one lacks a radio and has RHD but seems to have similar switches and gauges.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That's definitely an MGB, probably with a Mr. Plywood add-on dash.

    Does resemble the upper part of a Lotus however, but the heater controls are the give-away.
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    67 P.YMOUTH Barracuda.
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    LOL, right you are. :)

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    andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,690
    Thanks for ID'ing that, Shifty. It had been bugging the hell out of me. And, if anybody's curious, it's from the opening of one of the early first-season episodes of "WKRP in Cincinnati".
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,473
    If I am not mistaken, it is a Renault 4CV.

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    edited March 2013
    Heh, heh...apparently you've failed to notice the Japanese writing in the background. The car is actually a 1954 Hino-Renault 4CV. :shades:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,473
    Heh, heh...apparently you've failed to notice the Japanese writing in the background.

    i did indeed. Well played.

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    grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    edited March 2013
    G'day

    Just for once, I recognise a US car!. It is a mid-late 60s International Scout Sportop. I believe that they were also available with a canvas top rather than the fibreglass apparent here.

    I know that Scouts were sold in Australia and suspect that they were assembled here. There was an International truck factory not far from me in Melbourne.

    Cheers

    Graham
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,156
    edited March 2013
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    Been away for a few days - but found this online....
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    Right, Graham, it's a 1967 International Scout Sport Top. I think the top is removable and can be replaced by a canvas top when desired.

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    uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,113
    I'll guess an Isuzu, since the front clip looks straight off of a Chevy LUV to me. ;)
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    'Zat an Isuzu Florian, late '60s or early 70s?

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,558
    I knew that front end looked familiar. Now I know why.

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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,156
    Yes - its an Isuzu Florian - this version is from the early 70's apparently - circa 1971-5, I think
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