I have a 2006 Pilot LX 2WD. So far I have about 8000 miles on it. Switched to Mobil 1 fully synthetic at 6000 miles ( first oil change). Best MPG I got was 23 on highway averaging 75-80mph. In town, short distance I get about 19MPG. I keep the tires at about 36psi.
I really wish David and Kip would just go out to dinner and work this out between the two of them so I wouldn't have to wade through all their posts in order to see some real MPG of Honda Pilot owners.
I really wish David and Kip would just go out to dinner and work this out between the two of them so I wouldn't have to wade through all their posts in order to see some real MPG of Honda Pilot owners.
Not only do we post our mpg, but the discussions between us (which I believe have now run their course) are for the relevant purpose of trying to understand reasons for the differences between respective mpg posts. Just the raw mpg data alone is good enough for some but not good enough for others.
>"I really wish David and Kip would just go out to dinner and work this out between the two of them so I wouldn't have to wade through all their posts in order to see some real MPG of Honda Pilot owners."
Thank you for the input! What a wonderful idea! Could you please arrange that? Can we bring our families along?
Synonyms for Forums include: discussion, round-table, debate, meeting, opportunity, and environment.
"Fair and Balanced" While our discussions do become somewhat "Heated" (Debate) at times, there is a lot of information contained within!
I applogize to you, David, and the other forum members for sometimes getting "long winded". Such as now!
However I reserve the right of this "environment" to take the opportunity to discuss,and debate
How boring and how much can be learned if people simply state their mileage?
LOL, that was a good one. If it weren't for Kip and David this thread would look very sparse like the other SUVs (i.e. Yukon) where they are all afraid to post their MPG. Even the Saturn owners aren't posting and the Outlook now claims to have the best mileage of the SUVs (that claim used to belong to the Pilot)
Come-on everyone! Post your mileage here. There is A LOT of good information in these posts and discussion, like running synthetic oil, ILP, etc.
I think that you are correct in the "trips" on the highway could be the difference in you getting long distance from a single tank. I have had the exact same experience with both the Pilot and the Odyssey. I can run half a tank on the highway and the other half doing regular commuting and I maybe get a couple mpg better than a tank of all regular commuting.
I still think that our Pilot engines have not fully broken-in yet. At 15,000 miles, I plan on replacing the air filter (instead of "cleaning" it as Honda recommends for this interval) and my experience is that should help. But since I barely put-on 600 miles a month, that will take a couple years.
The best mileage I got in the Odyssey is when I changed the oil, serviced the tranny, and replaced the air filter prior to a "trip" on the highway.
Speaking of 20 MPG, i just had another near miss. Got 19.95mpg out of the last tank. The more I think about the conditions though, the better I feel about it.
Nearly 300 miles total, which included a 225 mile roundtrip to the hilly Berkshires and one 65 mile commute for my wife to work. A couple of the hottest days of the year and A/C was cranking. I'd say that only about 150 miles of the 230 mile trip was highway, sometimes hilly, at mostly speeds between 65 and 75, while 80 miles of it was rural roads at varying speeds between 40 and 60, including some traffic lights and stops signs. Made several stops for food, bathrooms and shopping. Suffered through a couple of construction detours. On the way there, it was me as the driver with a full as full can be load of camp stuff and no passengers. On the way home, it was me as the driver with no passengers and no cargo. Wife's commute is mostly highway. No short local drives bringing down the mpg on that tank.
Tempering my enthusiasm is that our 2006 Accord V6 got 28.5mpg on the same trips last tank. My wife drove to the Berkshires with our 3 kids and some heavy bags in the trunk, and returned home without them. She also had 1 commuting day. In the case of the Accord, there were also a few short local drives. Otherwise, I think it would have been over 30mpg notwithstanding the less than ideal mpg conditions. We did the Berkshires trip with my wife following me the whole time. So speeds and stops were all the same throughout.
That is my point. I want to know what many people have to say about Pilot mileage, non just two people over and over and over again. I am finding this forum to be of little use with two people exchanging ideas. This is like reading a case study about a very specific situation with little or no validity/reliability to support their arguments.
That's entertainment! I don't have to own one to know that about 24 is the max I would expect from a brick on wheels. It doesn't hurt you if these guys enjoy their chat,now does it?
"That is my point. I want to know what many people have to say about Pilot mileage, non just two people over and over and over again."
Your last post was #515 on this forum. It would seem that "MANY" people have, in fact, had things to say about Pilot mileage. What number do you consider as many! Of the posts you have contributed, how many have actually been statements about your specific mileage, and how many have been more discussion concerning your mileage or other things? :confuse:
Actually of your last 6 post on this forum none of them have dealt specifically with mileage you are getting on your Pilot! You have been discussing gear rations and David and me!
Sorry Steve, but I just couldn't resist posting this picture for my MPG friends. My wife drove the Pilot today to help start an early weekend (cause my old truck won't fit the whole family) so I'm sure my mpg will be compromised. By the way she says she "had to ease on the accelerator because it is not as smooth as the Odyssey."
I just bought a 2007 exl and have about 1400 miles on it car can't pass a gas station without wanting to stop I am getting about 12mpg in the city and 14 on the road and i don't have a heavy foot or race from traffic light to traffic light so fed up i'm bringing it in for service check in about 2 weeks to see if there is something wrong any suggestions thanks for any help
Purchased a 2007 in December of 2006 currently 26,000+ miles on OD. We average about 21mpg have seen as high as 28mpg. Note we have 2 wheel drive with cylinder deactivation. Really enjoy the ride quality and flexable seating.
Honda lists the EPA estimates as 22 mpg for the 2WD and 20 for the 4WD. Yet amazingly some say they are getting 6 to 8 mpg MORE than the EPA estimate. I believe that this is the only vehicle where owners report getting higher than the EPA estimates, while all the other brand owners usually report getting far less. 28 MPG on a car EPA rated at 20 or 22, WOW, thats a 27 to 40 PERCENT increase!!! How does Honda do it?
The last tank I decided to drive as most drivers on the road do. Wait a lot longer before letting off the throttle for a stop. Accelerating so that the tranny shifts at 3500 rpm. Riding 2-3 car lengths behind the car ahead which resulted in more brake-gas exercises. AC never got turned off.
Included in that tank was a 152 mile trip from south of Atlanta to Macon. Long rolling hills were fairly constant. Maybe 40 miles of 55 mph back road driving as above and the rest on I-75 with the cruise set at 70+ mph and the AC on the entire time. When I caught up with a car I would accelerate around them rather than waiting for conditions to ease around.
The 343 mile tank used 17.1 gallons and got 20.04 mpg. It would usually have gotten more in the 23+/- mpg range for my normal driving style and the 152 mile trip.
For me and my car, driving style makes a definite difference in mileage.
There are certain cars that simply will not get good mileage. Then there are cars that seem to get better than average. Whichever we own will benefit from or will suffer from our driving conditions and our driving styles.
I have been reading some large differences in mpg on this forum and thought I would add some numbers to the list. We own a 2005 EXL AWD and have 27000 miles on the vehicle. My wife drives it everyday and I drive it when we go somewhere as a family and on vacations. She averages 17 - 18 mpg on everyday driving. We live in a small town, but she still has a good bit of stop and go traffic. We have just returned from a 2200 mile trip to Florida and I was able to track the mpg through about 6 tanks of gas. I usually travel faster then about 75% of the traffic and on trips before this have averaged 21 - 22 mpg. On the trip down I tried to keep the speed under 80 and used the cruise as much as possible. With the ac on, 2 adults and 2 children, and the cargo area filled to the top of the 2nd row seats I averaged 22.5 mpg on the first tank. The 2nd tank I was ready to get the hotel and traveled 80+ and averaged 21.17 mpg.
The 3rd tank was slow highway(trip to the beach from Kissimmee) driving and some city driving and it ended up being 21.85 mpg.
The 4th tank was city(Orlando area) driving and one of the worst tanks we have had at 16.23 mpg.
On the trip home I wanted to see how good of gas mileage I could get and did my best to slow down. With the cruise set at 75mph, light traffic, ac on and 90+ heat we averaged 23.46mpg on the 5th tank of gas. The 6th tank was much of the same until we hit the Virginia state line(our home state) and saw the state police were in in heavy patrol and had to slow down. I set the cruise for 69mph for the final 200 miles and ended up with the best mileage we have ever gotten with 24.63mpg. I think this is very respectable especially considering I don't think my 1995 Pathfinder could get this mileage with a hurricane tail wind.
Sorry if this post was long winded, I wanted to try to get as much info about conditions as possible.
I hunted this site down as our 2005 Pilot EX-L has now logged a worst of 10.3 mpg in all city use. It's usually 13 or so. Best we've ever gotten was 18-19 on a 300 mile trip. My wife drives the car mostly and we don't drive very fast or spiritedly. It just seems that with more miles on it (it recently turned 13,500) the worse it gets. I'm a mechanic by trade and there seems to be nothing out of order with the vehicle, but I've come to the point of asking my wife if she's left the car where someone can siphon off fuel. I'm happy with the car in general, but this fuel mileage is horrible. Tires are kept at 36 psi and I'm running 5w-20 Mobil One Synthetic in it. I'm kind of at a loss...
We have a new 2WD Piliot EX-L and have been great gas mileage....I guess if I wanted 40mpg I would have bought a Prius but I was realistic....getting 25 plus and I can easily live with that..mostly highway stuff but also some intown...
Here is something that might help. It is from the CR-V forum. When you find your problem, it will most likely be something like this!
Kip
#384 of 527 Re: Dropping gas mileage [mhz1] by crvme3 Feb 28, 2007 (8:25 am) Bookmark | Reply Replying to: mhz1 (Feb 28, 2007 7:10 am)
I had a similar situation a couple of years back on a 2000 Civic. Problem turned out to be twofold. #1 my trusty tire pressure gauge of many years had lost it's accuracy (showing higher pressure that actual) #2 lazy o2 sensor (oxygen sensor). I discovered this using a diagnostic scanner, at no time did I have a "check engine" lite nor did I have any DTCs (diagnostic trouble codes). During test drive discovered sensor was at times barely working & had a very slow cross count (switching rich/lean etc.) Bought new pressure gauge & corrected tire pressure installed new o2 sensor (easy job on a Civic) problem solved... Have been 24-26 combined MPG ever since. Just something you might have your car guy look into... Hope this helped
Shortly after I got my Pilot and was a bit disappointed with its MPG in the city (13-15). So, I began looking at internet forums and discussions on this topic. I found many people with a common comment about the low MPG. This board seemed to have a mixture of people getting really really low mileage, along with others like myself, getting what is probably acceptable mileage for a truck this big of 13-20. This seemed however to be mainly a forum for people who were concerned about the lower than expected mpg. I am a bit mystified by the people now running to this board to report unbelievably high mileage of 26-28? I am not exactly sure whats going on here. Reporting MPG way above the EPA estimates is certainly curious.
"This seemed however to be mainly a forum for people who were concerned about the lower than expected mpg. I am a bit mystified by the people now running to this board to report unbelievably high mileage of 26-28? I am not exactly sure whats going on here."
Just some thoughts.
You are absolutely right. It does seem to be mainly a forum for people who were concerned about the lower than expected mpg. A high percentage of the posters do, in fact, report really bad mileage.
However, some are reporting average and very few are reporting really good mileage for this type vehicle.
I am one of the higher mileage posters. I have been attacked from every angle. People saying it can't be done, no way, unrealistic, impossible, and so forth. No one actually said the "L" word, although they may have been thinking it. :P
I believe the low mileage and even some of the middle mileage posters hang around with others in the same boat. Some are actually looking for ways to improve their mileage..Others are not.
I also believe that many of those that may visit this forum simply are here to check the MPG of others. They may not stay because they are satisfied, because they are getting better than most of what they are seeing posted. So they go away without posting anything. They sure don't want to post and be criticized for getting good mileage.
Someone said there is something wrong with my Pilot (in a good way) that results in it getting good mileage. I don't believe there is anything special with my car. I do believe there is nothing wrong with it. When I drive it more in tune with the ways that others report driving theirs, it's mileage suffers to a point that it gets worse mileage than they are reporting.
There are cars that have a problem and simply will not get what is considered "GOOD" mileage. That car needs to be fixed. Most, not all, cars that don't get EPA or better are either due to driving conditions such as a 5 mile commute that takes 30 minutes or a 5 mile commute that takes 3.5 minutes. Extremely hot or cold temperatures, weird gas or terrain that is straight up and down. And the dreaded LEAD FOOT!
To get the best mileage from even the worst vehicle, the driver has to have a mindset to consistently strive for that mileage. Consistently!
I am personally thrilled to see others with good mileage, and have the courage to post it.
I realize I will likely get "flamed" by some for this post. That be OK.
Mostly highway miles (80-20) and was avg. about 60 mph on highway. Averaged 24.4 mpg. This is on a 2004 EXL. On trips on this nature and longer we have always gotten right around 24 mpg. I'm in the market for an '07 if I can land the right deal but I sure hope I don't see a big change in the mpg.
I am one of the people that suspect the 2006's and 2007's will not due as well as on the highway as the 2004's due to the gear ratio difference, but that alone shouldn't discourage you from the 2007's. I am not sure that anyone with the 2006/2007 has been able to get that high of mpg (except the 2WD). What is you usual mpg for normal driving?
Kip-City for us is Washington, DC and usually rotten traffic, so I kind of expect mileage around 13-14 not 10. It used to be in the 13-14 range, but seems to have dropped considerably in the last couple of weeks.
We rarely get it out on the highway, but will this 4th so I'll have more info after that.
The fuel is usually EXXON and I don't believe it's Ethanol but I do realize that will make a rather big difference as alcohol has half the BTU content a pound of gasoline has.
What is the "ILP" I've seen bandied about?
Mobil 1 went in at last oil change-10k miles. Engine should have been broken in enough to use it by then. Generally you get high oil consumption if you go to a synthetic too early as the rings never get a chance to bed in on the cylinder walls. Oil consumption is nil.
No computer checks as yet.
Torque converter is locking up properly and I'll have to see what the revs are at 70mph. I do know they are substantially lower than my other vehicles, I just don't remember what. Is that a question to see if T.C. is locking up?
Engine and all systems seem to work perfectly, and neither my wife nor I are lead-foots.
You are a mechanic and have probably already checked the harder things. Right now, I'm looking for stuff that may be hidden in plain view, or just from something I've heard of or experienced.
My 03 suddenly felt like the tranny was coming apart at 50 when OD and TC were attempting to activate. Nothing registered on the computer and Honda Tech Support were no help to the dealer. Next day an experienced "Service Writer" said they had problems with EGR valves on some 03-04 Pilots that gave this same symptom. The tech ran a test on the valve and it failed. New valve fixed the problem. Two days and a rental car were involved. Had another problem with a GROANING sound coming from the rear end at very slow speed and the Steering wheel turned sharply. Turned out to be faulty rear end dope. It didn't register on the computer either. Thank goodness for extended warranties.
The post I left for you above involved an Oxygen sensor that didn't register but resulted in poor mileage. Apparently there are things that can go wrong that the computer simply doesn't register. Hopefully you will FIND your problem and post it, so others will know.
Question concerning RPM at 70 and whether the OD is engaged and TC is locking at about 50 are layman transmission checks.
If ILP was done properly by your dealer and the battery or certain fuses haven't been disconnected, the ILP probably won't help. It is part of the dealer "GET READY" procedure. But it can't hurt to do it anyway.
I'm beginning to wonder if it might be a good idea to do again now anyway, with "Summer gas" in use.
Anyway go to Post 202, page 11, of this forum. There are instruction as well as a link to the TSB.
Thanks, Kip. I'll try this, (ILP) but I'm not holding my breath. This procedure seems to be more concerned with idle quality than anything else. That said, the battery has gone stone dead on two occasions when interior lights were mistakenly left on during stays at an airport parking lot. However, that happened a bit of time ago and most ECUs/ECMs have block learning capability and will relearn optimum settings with many key-on, engine-runnings/starts. Thanks for your help.
The one time my mileage mysteriously dropped 3-4 mpg was after I had the battery disconnected. This apparently went on for several weeks as I don't gas up very often. Didn't realize the connection at the time. The car was idling just fine!
Read a post on one of the Pilot sights concerning the ILP helping others. I did it and the mileage returned. Could have been pure coincidence! But the very next tank returned to normal.
Even if there is a 1% chance it will help just a tiny bit, it can't hurt to try!
Sorry typo 2006 purchased Dec 2005 so we have had it 1 year and 6 months. 28,000 miles The 28 miles to gallon was fill up in Flagstaff, AZ headed East on I-40 into New Mexico. Cool Night no wind to speak off AC was off cruise set at 80. All windows up just FAN and radio on. Me, wife, dog (golden retriever) and luggage.
The trip average was 24.6 for 3700+ miles. Average speed between 70 and 80. From Phoenix AZ to Lake of Ozarks Missouri and back. Remember we have 4x2 with cylinder deactivation I assume this is pretty normal. Its 112 in Phoenix right now and even with AC we are getting around 22. 70% freeway and 30% surface street sustained 65 to 70 mph. Wife has cowoker/friend with same 4x2 set up 30% freeway 70% surface getting 21 to 22 on average.
2007 EX-L 2WD Just filled up for 1st time and got 14.7 mpg on first 75 miles, city driving with AC. The ECO light did come on quite a few times. Hopefully will improve with more mileage. Do anyone know about how many miles before it is broken in?
I just filled my third tank on my new 2007 pilot 2WD I got 22 mpg before the fill with 90% highway at 65 mph and 10% city driving. The car was loaded up with 2 adults 2 kids and the back packed with suitcases. My first two fills did not get as good mileage at all. I'll keep you posted.
The ECO really affects my driving style. I need to compensate for ECO mode the with the accelerator. Anyone else annoyed with this ECO feature?
This isn't too scientific, but with the guage reading 1/2 tank remaining, the OD stands at 80 miles. That's all city driving, and not driving hard, either. For the math impaired, that's a whopping 8mpg.
The next tank I'll track closely, but this seems crazy.
ECO break in time ECO would stay engaged on flat roads from 30 to 65mph for first 3000 miles after that it worked up to 70 then 75 then 80. This took anther 3000 miles. It would appear their is some type of break in. Mileage also improved with miles and steadied out around 10,000 miles.
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Good to be on the same page with you, at long last.
David
Good show! Especially on the highway at those speeds.
Actually the around town ain't shabby either.
When you switched to Mobile 1, did you notice any change in mileage?
Thanks,
Kip
Not only do we post our mpg, but the discussions between us (which I believe have now run their course) are for the relevant purpose of trying to understand reasons for the differences between respective mpg posts. Just the raw mpg data alone is good enough for some but not good enough for others.
Thank you for the input! What a wonderful idea! Could you please arrange that? Can we bring our families along?
Synonyms for Forums include: discussion, round-table, debate, meeting, opportunity, and environment.
"Fair and Balanced"
While our discussions do become somewhat "Heated" (Debate) at times, there is a lot of information contained within!
I applogize to you, David, and the other forum members for sometimes getting "long winded". Such as now!
However I reserve the right of this "environment" to take the opportunity to discuss,and debate
How boring and how much can be learned if people simply state their mileage?
If that is all you want, here is an excellent web site.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/
Thanks,
Kip
Come-on everyone! Post your mileage here. There is A LOT of good information in these posts and discussion, like running synthetic oil, ILP, etc.
I think that you are correct in the "trips" on the highway could be the difference in you getting long distance from a single tank. I have had the exact same experience with both the Pilot and the Odyssey. I can run half a tank on the highway and the other half doing regular commuting and I maybe get a couple mpg better than a tank of all regular commuting.
I still think that our Pilot engines have not fully broken-in yet. At 15,000 miles, I plan on replacing the air filter (instead of "cleaning" it as Honda recommends for this interval) and my experience is that should help. But since I barely put-on 600 miles a month, that will take a couple years.
The best mileage I got in the Odyssey is when I changed the oil, serviced the tranny, and replaced the air filter prior to a "trip" on the highway.
Speaking of 20 MPG, i just had another near miss. Got 19.95mpg out of the last tank. The more I think about the conditions though, the better I feel about it.
Nearly 300 miles total, which included a 225 mile roundtrip to the hilly Berkshires and one 65 mile commute for my wife to work. A couple of the hottest days of the year and A/C was cranking. I'd say that only about 150 miles of the 230 mile trip was highway, sometimes hilly, at mostly speeds between 65 and 75, while 80 miles of it was rural roads at varying speeds between 40 and 60, including some traffic lights and stops signs. Made several stops for food, bathrooms and shopping. Suffered through a couple of construction detours. On the way there, it was me as the driver with a full as full can be load of camp stuff and no passengers. On the way home, it was me as the driver with no passengers and no cargo. Wife's commute is mostly highway. No short local drives bringing down the mpg on that tank.
Tempering my enthusiasm is that our 2006 Accord V6 got 28.5mpg on the same trips last tank. My wife drove to the Berkshires with our 3 kids and some heavy bags in the trunk, and returned home without them. She also had 1 commuting day. In the case of the Accord, there were also a few short local drives. Otherwise, I think it would have been over 30mpg notwithstanding the less than ideal mpg conditions. We did the Berkshires trip with my wife following me the whole time. So speeds and stops were all the same throughout.
David
Your last post was #515 on this forum. It would seem that "MANY" people have, in fact, had things to say about Pilot mileage. What number do you consider as many! Of the posts you have contributed, how many have actually been statements about your specific mileage, and how many have been more discussion concerning your mileage or other things? :confuse:
Actually of your last 6 post on this forum none of them have dealt specifically with mileage you are getting on your Pilot! You have been discussing gear rations and David and me!
But that is what forums are about, isn't it!
Kip
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Included in that tank was a 152 mile trip from south of Atlanta to Macon. Long rolling hills were fairly constant. Maybe 40 miles of 55 mph back road driving as above and the rest on I-75 with the cruise set at 70+ mph and the AC on the entire time. When I caught up with a car I would accelerate around them rather than waiting for conditions to ease around.
The 343 mile tank used 17.1 gallons and got 20.04 mpg. It would usually have gotten more in the 23+/- mpg range for my normal driving style and the 152 mile trip.
For me and my car, driving style makes a definite difference in mileage.
There are certain cars that simply will not get good mileage. Then there are cars that seem to get better than average. Whichever we own will benefit from or will suffer from our driving conditions and our driving styles.
Kip
We have just returned from a 2200 mile trip to Florida and I was able to track the mpg through about 6 tanks of gas. I usually travel faster then about 75% of the traffic and on trips before this have averaged 21 - 22 mpg. On the trip down I tried to keep the speed under 80 and used the cruise as much as possible. With the ac on, 2 adults and 2 children, and the cargo area filled to the top of the 2nd row seats I averaged 22.5 mpg on the first tank. The 2nd tank I was ready to get the hotel and traveled 80+ and averaged 21.17 mpg.
The 3rd tank was slow highway(trip to the beach from Kissimmee) driving and some city driving and it ended up being 21.85 mpg.
The 4th tank was city(Orlando area) driving and one of the worst tanks we have had at 16.23 mpg.
On the trip home I wanted to see how good of gas mileage I could get and did my best to slow down. With the cruise set at 75mph, light traffic, ac on and 90+ heat we averaged 23.46mpg on the 5th tank of gas. The 6th tank was much of the same until we hit the Virginia state line(our home state) and saw the state police were in in heavy patrol and had to slow down. I set the cruise for 69mph for the final 200 miles and ended up with the best mileage we have ever gotten with 24.63mpg. I think this is very respectable especially considering I don't think my 1995 Pathfinder could get this mileage with a hurricane tail wind.
Sorry if this post was long winded, I wanted to try to get as much info about conditions as possible.
What speeds and loads on the highway?
What brand and grade of gas? Is it Ethanol?
Has the ILP been done?
How many miles were on the car when you started using the Mobil 1 synthetic?
Have you done a computer check for errors?
Is the torque converter locking up at around 50mph with light throttle. What is the RPM at 70 mph?
Thanks,
Kip
Here is something that might help. It is from the CR-V forum. When you find your problem, it will most likely be something like this!
Kip
#384 of 527 Re: Dropping gas mileage [mhz1] by crvme3 Feb 28, 2007 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: mhz1 (Feb 28, 2007 7:10 am)
I had a similar situation a couple of years back on a 2000 Civic. Problem turned out to be twofold. #1 my trusty tire pressure gauge of many years had lost it's accuracy (showing higher pressure that actual) #2 lazy o2 sensor (oxygen sensor). I discovered this using a diagnostic scanner, at no time did I have a "check engine" lite nor did I have any DTCs (diagnostic trouble codes). During test drive discovered sensor was at times barely working & had a very slow cross count (switching rich/lean etc.) Bought new pressure gauge & corrected tire pressure installed new o2 sensor (easy job on a Civic) problem solved... Have been 24-26 combined MPG ever since. Just something you might have your car guy look into... Hope this helped
Good report and good mileage!
What speeds and what conditions on the highway?
Kip
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"This seemed however to be mainly a forum for people who were concerned about the lower than expected mpg. I am a bit mystified by the people now running to this board to report unbelievably high mileage of 26-28? I am not exactly sure whats going on here."
Just some thoughts.
You are absolutely right. It does seem to be mainly a forum for people who were concerned about the lower than expected mpg. A high percentage of the posters do, in fact, report really bad mileage.
However, some are reporting average and very few are reporting really good mileage for this type vehicle.
I am one of the higher mileage posters. I have been attacked from every angle. People saying it can't be done, no way, unrealistic, impossible, and so forth. No one actually said the "L" word, although they may have been thinking it. :P
I believe the low mileage and even some of the middle mileage posters hang around with others in the same boat.
Some are actually looking for ways to improve their mileage..Others are not.
I also believe that many of those that may visit this forum simply are here to check the MPG of others. They may not stay because they are satisfied, because they are getting better than most of what they are seeing posted. So they go away without posting anything. They sure don't want to post and be criticized for getting good mileage.
Someone said there is something wrong with my Pilot (in a good way) that results in it getting good mileage. I don't believe there is anything special with my car. I do believe there is nothing wrong with it. When I drive it more in tune with the ways that others report driving theirs, it's mileage suffers to a point that it gets worse mileage than they are reporting.
There are cars that have a problem and simply will not get what is considered "GOOD" mileage. That car needs to be fixed. Most, not all, cars that don't get EPA or better are either due to driving conditions such as a 5 mile commute that takes 30 minutes or a 5 mile commute that takes 3.5 minutes. Extremely hot or cold temperatures, weird gas or terrain that is straight up and down. And the dreaded LEAD FOOT!
To get the best mileage from even the worst vehicle, the driver has to have a mindset to consistently strive for that mileage. Consistently!
I am personally thrilled to see others with good mileage, and have the courage to post it.
I realize I will likely get "flamed" by some for this post. That be OK.
Kip
Such as trying to get to some desired midpoint? :P
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SUVs and Smart Shopper
Joe
We rarely get it out on the highway, but will this 4th so I'll have more info after that.
The fuel is usually EXXON and I don't believe it's Ethanol but I do realize that will make a rather big difference as alcohol has half the BTU content a pound of gasoline has.
What is the "ILP" I've seen bandied about?
Mobil 1 went in at last oil change-10k miles. Engine should have been broken in enough to use it by then. Generally you get high oil consumption if you go to a synthetic too early as the rings never get a chance to bed in on the cylinder walls. Oil consumption is nil.
No computer checks as yet.
Torque converter is locking up properly and I'll have to see what the revs are at 70mph. I do know they are substantially lower than my other vehicles, I just don't remember what. Is that a question to see if T.C. is locking up?
Engine and all systems seem to work perfectly, and neither my wife nor I are lead-foots.
My 03 suddenly felt like the tranny was coming apart at 50 when OD and TC were attempting to activate. Nothing registered on the computer and Honda Tech Support were no help to the dealer. Next day an experienced "Service Writer" said they had problems with EGR valves on some 03-04 Pilots that gave this same symptom. The tech ran a test on the valve and it failed. New valve fixed the problem. Two days and a rental car were involved. Had another problem with a GROANING sound coming from the rear end at very slow speed and the Steering wheel turned sharply. Turned out to be faulty rear end dope. It didn't register on the computer either. Thank goodness for extended warranties.
The post I left for you above involved an Oxygen sensor that didn't register but resulted in poor mileage. Apparently there are things that can go wrong that the computer simply doesn't register. Hopefully you will FIND your problem and post it, so others will know.
Question concerning RPM at 70 and whether the OD is engaged and TC is locking at about 50 are layman transmission checks.
If ILP was done properly by your dealer and the battery or certain fuses haven't been disconnected, the ILP probably won't help. It is part of the dealer "GET READY" procedure. But it can't hurt to do it anyway.
I'm beginning to wonder if it might be a good idea to do again now anyway, with "Summer gas" in use.
Anyway go to Post 202, page 11, of this forum. There are instruction as well as a link to the TSB.
Kip
Thanks for your help.
Read a post on one of the Pilot sights concerning the ILP helping others. I did it and the mileage returned. Could have been pure coincidence! But the very next tank returned to normal.
Even if there is a 1% chance it will help just a tiny bit, it can't hurt to try!
Kip
The 28 miles to gallon was fill up in Flagstaff, AZ headed East on I-40 into New Mexico. Cool Night no wind to speak off AC was off cruise set at 80. All windows up just FAN and radio on. Me, wife, dog (golden retriever) and luggage.
I think we have a winner here!
Kip
Just filled up for 1st time and got 14.7 mpg on first 75 miles, city driving with AC. The ECO light did come on quite a few times. Hopefully will improve with more mileage. Do anyone know about how many miles before it is broken in?
Kip
The ECO really affects my driving style. I need to compensate for ECO mode the with the accelerator. Anyone else annoyed with this ECO feature?
This isn't too scientific, but with the guage reading 1/2 tank remaining, the OD stands at 80 miles. That's all city driving, and not driving hard, either. For the math impaired, that's a whopping 8mpg.
The next tank I'll track closely, but this seems crazy.