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Odie
Odie's Carspace
Just please be careful when doing that.
Odie
Odie's Carspace
-CZP
I'm 6'5" and never had a legroom problem with the Pilot. The problem with ours came down to the lack of a telescoping steering wheel. I had to sit closer to the dash so that my arms were more comfortable, which meant, like you, I couldn't stretch out my legs.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
My first impression of the Pilot is awesome. It drives like a dream, very quiet, smooth. Perfect size, not Suburban big, but not Pathfinder small. Exactly the right size. It will be used primarily for road trips including to the snowy Midwest, so the 4WD was necessary for me, although I won't be taking it on the Rubicon.
The Pilot is very well thought out and ergonomic. Little things like the storage space for the rear headrests, the cell phone holder, sliding cover for the console, etc. shows that Honda "gets it" when it comes to designing cars. This is my first experience with XM radio and I'm hooked. I thought with my ipod I wouldn't care about XM, but so far I really like the XM.
My other car is a 2002 Ford Explorer XLT $WD and it is a piece of junk compared to the Pilot. It looks so much cheaper on the inside and does not ride nearly as well as the Pilot. I realize they are very different vehicles, but unless someone was going to do a lot of towing or serious offroading, I cannot imagine purchasing an Explorer over a Pilot. The Explorer rides like Jed Clampet's truck compared to the Pilot. (I purchased the Explorer because my job required me to navigate muddy mountain trails to do survey's on oil and gas wells and it served me well in that capacity...took it places I would never take the Pilot)
I'm glad to join the ranks Pilot owners. These forums, especially the pricing forum, were extremely helpful in allowing me to know what other people were paying for their Pilots. I'm convinced having this information saved me well over $1000. Considering the MSRP was $33,595; Invoice was $30,400. With the factory to dealer incentive of $3000, I would have thought $27,500 would have been the best deal one would find. However, seeing where people were getting well under $27,000 allowed me to negotiate an even better deal. A friend of mine who paid $15,000 more for an MDX can't believe how nice the EX-L is, to the point he is considering trading the MDX for one. I realize the MDX is more upscale, but I'm don't believe it's $15,000 more upscale, certainly not for my pocketbook.
If you are shopping for an SUV that "gets it", be sure to drive the Honda Pilot. I believe you will find it the best value on the market today.
Hope this helps
Odie
Odie's Carspace
I love this SUV!! Drives like a car. I traded in a 2000 Accord EX.
Mr_Shiftright, "Teflon Paint Sealants Revisited" #7, 10 Jul 2003 10:33 am
Xzilon ia a brand name that includes several products. I suppose karkar is referring to their paint sealant/protectant.
tidester, host
Karkar - what are you paying for the Xzilon?
tidester, host
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Some of the Xzilon packages include exterior and interior treatment (i.e. the $500-800 packages). I think you can buy a pint of it for ~ $100 and do it yourself, but no one does that it seems.
IMO, read the fine print very, very well: if you happen to wax or polish the car before the 5 years are up, you void the Xzilon warranty. So if you find that's the treatment is fading, go get it reapplied before the 5 years is up, don't wax the car. Some people get it reapplied every 6 months.
In the end, it's worth it if you absolutely don't want to spend any time taking care of your paint. But a $10 bottle of acrylic sealant at Autozone will give the same results if you reapply every year, if you're willing so spare an hour of your time applying it on the car (and saving yourself $500-800!)
Excellent advice! As for the $500-800, I suppose it depends on what your priorities are.
tidester, host
I will just have to get back into bed with AAA. Not my preference, but that is probably a better deal.
I've never liked AAA's lobbying efforts but then again, I've always changed my own flats and never had anything but towing coverage and now that's be changed to roadside assistance and it's free with my auto insurance (AIG).
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if so, for 2008 model year?..
thanks
I can guess and say the next full redesign Pilot will come out sometime around 2007 summer or 2007 fall.
thanks
- Mark
tom
Of course, it all depends on your driving. Some are getting into the sub-12 mpg range and others are eeking out 25 or a bit better on the highway. But these are the outlyers.
Personally, my Pilot is the first car I've owned that hasn't matched or exceeded the EPA city number in my overall mix of driving. And it gets two-mpg under itw EPA city rating whereas my previous SUV, with one mpg lower EPA ratings, typically exceeded the city number. My Pilot is basically getting what I'd expect a V8 Tahoe to get. Honda says it is to spec, but I'm disappointed in the fuel mileage of the Pilot.
- Mark