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There's a cash incentive on leases of this car in certain states. If you tell me where you are I can tell you whether it is available in your area.
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As I mentioned in my previous post, there's a cash incentive on leases of the A4 in certain states. Tell me where you are and I'll tell you if it's available in your area.
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On top of that, they took in my 2011 A4 Avant...29Kish residual and slightly beat up. That was a 39k new. I was paying 510/month for that one.
Seemed like a no brainer to me...don't know exactly how the dealership made money though!
- Quattro tiptronic (also looking at manuals)
- Premium Plus
- Sports package
- Audi MMI
- B&O sound system
Basically a near fully loaded PP A4 quattro. The following is one offer I've got on a car that matches the specs I'm looking for (which is surprisingly hard to find)
$ 46215.00 MSRP
$ 43962.00 SALE PRICE
LEASE
36 month/ 12k (wac)
$689.30 monthly
55% residual= $25418
.00119 money factor
PURCHASE
60 month purchase $0 down @1.9%(wac)
$814.22 monthly
The other question is whether to lease or but... I've always struggled with leasing, but it seems like the Audi's poorer reliability and cost makes it a more viable option. Interested in any thoughts, thanks in advance for the help.
Thanks,
Rick
"Audi Financial Services' April buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan Premium Plus quattro with 12,000 miles per year are .00069 and 55% for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier." Dealer is padding the Money Factor...insist on Buy Rate or walk away. The residual should be 56% with Audi Care.
For comparison, I am paying about $15 more per month for a 2013 P+ S4 (MSRP $53, 445, sales price $50,562 before $750 lease bonus cash), 36 months 12K miles. $500 order deposit as down payment; AudiCare, acquisition fee and New York State sales tax in payment. First month payment and DMV fees at signing. No trade in or other incentives/cap cost reductions.
Monthly payment: $460
Miles: 15,000
42 months
$3000 down (1st month included)
$1000 Audi loyalty
$1700 trade in (2004 A4 w/ 180,000 miles, the car was shot)
Thoughts?
dealer was auto gallery in woodland hills...
good luck!
The money factor for the Prestige model is the same, but the residual value drops to 49%...
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my question is, can these advertised lease offers be negotiated for better deals? as in lowering the the payments or adding more options etc...
Not so much negotiation a new lease deal but working off the advertised offer for a better deal.
any luck?
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Special $529 lease per month for 36 months with $3,223* due at signing and $0 security deposit
$529 per month for 36 months
$3,223 cash due at signing
MY 2013 allroad 2.0T quattro Premium
Offer only valid 4-04-2013 through 7-08-2013
$0 Security Deposit
$529 First Month Payment
$695 Acquisition Fee
$1,999 Down Payment
$3,223 Due at Signing* (Excludes taxes, title, other options and dealer fees)
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$369/mo for 36 mo
$0 Security Deposit
$369 1st Month Payment,
$695 Acquisition Fee,
$2,699 Down Payment,
= $3,763 Due at Signing*
Monthly payments total $13,300.
Purchase option at lease end for $21,042
The Disclaimer says this is "based on MSRP $37,575 of 2013 Audi A4 2.0T quattro Premium Package, Tiptronic, Convenience Package, Lighting Package, Heated Front Seats"
These are all of the features I want... except the back seats in the Premium do not go down (silly if you ask me) so I looked at the Premium Plus which has the same features as the quoted lease. Just got back from the dealer and they told me
$489/mo for 42 months (I asked about 36 mo but they said the payment would be higher)
$4000 due at signing
MSRP: $39695
Residual Value $20,000
Money Factor .00076
I was wondering - Edmunds shows the TMV of the Premium Plus at 37,406. If I can somehow negotiate with the dealer to that number, would it be possible to get the same lease deal as the A4 Premium? Or is it wishful thinking on my part. I'm trying to keep my lease payment $400 or less. I'd pay a few more bucks a month if I didn't have to put any money down besides the acquisition fee and first month payment. Am I being unrealistic?
Thanks
what are May 2013 residual value and money factor for A4 Premium Plus Quattro models.
I am looking for 12k or 15k /yr options. 36 months lease or even 42 months if I get a good deal.
Are there any manufacturers rebate going on or any other incentives?
I am in NJ area.
Thanks for your help
2013 A4 Premium Trim Quattro, heated seats, lighting package, sunroof
36/month at $379
$0 Down
I know this doesn't say much as theirs no residual or money factor, but why does this sound cheap to me?
The numbers for an otherwise identical 42-month lease are .00089 and 49%.
The residual values for leases of this car with 12,000 miles per year would be 2% higher.
As usual, Audi has $1,000 owner loyalty cash on this car. This offer also extends as conquest cash to current owners of Mercedes, BMW and Lexus models. This month Audi introduced option credits that provide discounts on vehicles with certain equipment as well.
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What are May 2013 residual value and money factor for A4 Premium Quattro models.
Looking for the following:
1. 36 months, 12k miles
2. 39 months, 12k miles
3. 42 months, 12k miles
Thanks,
Socal Audi deals show the Allroad lease offer below.
my question is, can these advertised lease offers be negotiated for better deals? as in lowering the the payments or adding more options etc...
Not so much negotiating a new lease deal from scratch ">but working off the advertised offer for a better deal.
any luck?
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Special $529 lease per month for 36 months with $3,223* due at signing and $0 security deposit
$529 per month for 36 months
$3,223 cash due at signing
MY 2013 allroad 2.0T quattro Premium
Offer only valid 4-04-2013 through 7-08-2013
$0 Security Deposit
$529 First Month Payment
$695 Acquisition Fee
$1,999 Down Payment
$3,223 Due at Signing* (Excludes taxes, title, other options and dealer fees)
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The numbers for 39-months are .00089 and 53%.
The numbers for 42-months are .00089 and 51%.
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1) what is considered a good or great selling price ($ over invoice) for a factory ordered 2014 car to be ordered in June/July timeframe? I don't think 2014 pricing is out yet, but I estimate the MSRP of my configured car to be in the $38-39K range. I live in the LA area with a dozen Audi dealers within a 40 mile radius. I was thinking something like $500 over dealer invoice would be feasible for a car which will not take up lot space.
2) Does adding AudiCare still add 1% to residual values? How much is AudiCare these days and would you recommend getting it? I recall that it was something like $740 a few years ago, but it's likely over $800 now.
3) Does Audi Financial offer the $1,000 conquest money they are offering right now on 2013 models all the time? My wife drives a 2009 BMW 328i and we would qualify for the conquest money offer but the program right now applies to 2013 models. Just trying to gauge if they will have it still once the 2014 MY cars start arriving.
MSRP: $37,870 (A4 Quatro Premium with Convenience Package, Lighting Package, Heated Seats, Floor Mats)
Sales Price: $36,000
Residual: 53%
Money Factor - .00089
Lease Term - 39 months
Thanks
Should it be .00069? See a couple posts back.
Thanks for the response.
Any idea of the actual wholesale price (or holdbacks, incentives/volume targets) ?
I have an offer for a 2013 A4Q, Ibis, P with Heated Seats, Conv and Lighting, for $35.5k.
What do you think – 2013 P at a good price (steep depreciation ahead)or go with the 2014 P+ ?
Thanks in advance
Its a 2013 Quattro tiptronic (8-spd) with an MSRP of $38,045.
We do not qualify for loyalty incentives (its been a few years since we've owned 3-series - with too many warranty repairs)
Thanks for your insight
No, the $1,000 conquest cash that Audi is currently offering on the 2013 A4 will not automatically be available on the 2014 model when it arrives. Audi might offer it on the '14, but it might not. The conquest cash has been available on the '13 model since last fall but it did not exist when the '13 was first introduced. It's tough to say whether that will be the case on the 2014 model.
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2013 A4 PP
$2,500 off msrp
55% residual
.00069 money factor
In general, is this a good deal?
Any new numbers for June or same as May for Allroad Premium plus.
Also what is the usual add back for 10K vs 12K miles on the resid?
36 mo, 12K
Navi + backup cam
Central NJ
Trading in my 2003 325i for $5000 w/ $1000 conquest
So with the $5000 towards the initial fees and cap reduction:
$397/mo (taxes included)
Can I realistically get it down to $375/mo? Or better?
In June, Audi unexpectedly began waiving the first month's payment on leases of this car, which is a nice bonus.
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I have an offer on the table for a 2013 A4 Premium Plus/MMI/Nav Package/Exhaust Tips/6-Speed Manual:
MSRP $40,645
$5,000 Trade on a 2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport (Good Condition; 90,000 Miles (They claim to be doing me a favor to the tune of $1500 dollars))
True Market Value per Edmunds: $39,328
Lease Term: 39 Months
Miles: 15,000
Residual: 51%
MF: .00069
I am assuming there is somewhere around $2200 in fees being taken out of that trade in as the payments they are coming up with are around $515 a month.
Do you have any sage advice/comments on this offer?
I am in NJ thinking about leasing an S4. The person that I talked to said they are selling the 2013 S4s at invoice, but then add on the other chargers, like destination, doc fees, ext.
If I get them down to a selling price I want (assume invoice), the standard buy rate and residual %, what else is negotiable? Can I say I don’t want to pay destination or doc fees? One or the other? I understand the taxes are not negotiable as well. are "supplemental title fees"? Assignment fee?
AFS adds 2% to its 15k residuals for leases with 12k and 3% for leases with 10k.
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The money factor that you were quoted is correct. That's a good sign. The Edmunds.com True Market Value pricing for the A4 looks reasonable right now as well.
Are you having the dealer cut you a check for your trade or applying the proceeds towards your lease. You would be much better off if you had them give you a check. I always advise consumes to avoid making capitalized cost reductions on leased vehicles.
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The bank that you are leasing through, Audi Financial Services, charges a $695 acquisition fee on every vehicle that it leases. You can roll this charge into your car's acquisition fee to bake into your payment rather than paying it at lease signing, but again it is unavoidable.
The doc fee is levied by the dealer. This is between you and them. If they won't waive it, you might be able to get them to lower your vehicle's selling price by that amount if they want your business bad enough.
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Yes, I was surprised that the name was not taken as well. I was going to have them apply the proceeds of the trade-in toward the lease. I assume the logic is that what you put towards cap cost reduction is money that is not recoupable should something happen i.e. an accident. However, I believe I am correct in my assumption that not applying a cap cost reduction would significantly increase my monthly payments, possibly out of what I find to be economical.
Secondly, I have looked online at Edmund's current list of incentives and rebates section and see that there is currently the following lease offer for a 2013 A4 quattro Sedan Premium Plus Package/Advanced Key/MMI Nav Plus Package:
Down Payment: N/A
Security Deposit: N/A
Term: 36 months
Annual Mileage: 10,000
Monthly Payment: $429
Would it be a valid argument to reference this lease payment amount in negotiating a 15,0000 mile lease (they currently have me at $515 with cap cost reduction of 5,000)? Or is that just what 15,000 additional miles over the 36 month term would cost?
I am also a bit confused because the "My Audi/Finance" section of the Audi website states that an A4 Premium Plus2.0 TFSI should be somewhere in the 36,700 to 38,800 range, with a trade-in cap cost reduction of $5,000 my monthly payment estimate would be $378 to $396 at 12,000 miles/36 mons.
I apologize, I know that was a lot of hypotheticals/questions. I am just having trouble understanding the disparity in estimated payments/lease specials advertised by Audi/Audi Financial Services and the dealerships current monthly payments with cap cost reduction.
I've been researching for several months and feel I have come to a pretty reasonable offer. When you get a chance, can you please let me know what you think?
MSRP: $43575
Cap Cost: $41000
MF: .00069
10k / 39 month lease
$750 drive off
Audicare
Summer of Audi Rebate
Monthly: $514 + tax
Total I'd be paying is $22600 over 39 months, or equivalent 20920 over 36 months
Thank you for your help and insight