Did ya see any of them t100 ones or them hi-lux ones? Where all them ones gone now? If they be lastin so long and got such good quality, how come they aint out there bein eyeballed now? Yup, they all used up. So much for that quality of them forien ones. Folks be sayin the same on them tundras ones in just a few years. Where they all be? Used up now. Good luck on this one now!
I only coutned the 53 as 1500 not 2500 or 3500 and they were all the new body style. Just think if i counted all chevys. But according to bama they are all junk. Why are so many on the roads then? I didnt even count dodge or ford there were even more.
Nope - she's not hicksrme. Libby is BORING. Hicksrme wouldn't steal his pics of his '52 from another website. She's just an imposter and not a very good one at that.
I have a hitch on my truck also. There are 3 Tundras at my work. The only other new trucks are a Ford F350 Powerstroke an F150 and a Dodge Ram Cummins Diesel.
Since ya cant be gettin a factory hitch on them limited ones, will addin one after the fact be voidin out that warrenty on them limited ones? Also, if ya was too really "work" them forien ones, like on a farm and such, would that void it out too? Seems that factory aint really intendin on no folks workin them ones now. Good luck on this one now!
I know mine was. Do you have the trans cooler? I know i do.
Oh yea coming home from my trip today. 330 mls not a 1 tundra. Countless number of silverados. Care to explain why the silverados outnumber the tundras but you say they are all junk? How come about 1/3 of all the ones i seen had trailers (horse, travel, boat, 5th wheels) none of the tundras did.
Bama maybe you should go out driving and see reality for yourself. There are sure alot of chevys out there. (fords and dodges too).
Look round and about. All them forien ones be gone! Where is all them hi-lux ones now? Yet, them big3 ones are still workin day in and out. Facts is facts, use your eyes on this one now. Good luck on this one now!
HMMM i live in indiana where the tundras are built and seen NO tundras in the state of indiana on the expressway (toll road). No farmers had tundras. They are used the big 3 why is that?
Them that farms got the need of one that lasts. Them limited ones be for the yuppie, and fad chasers, not for them folks who work em. Facts is facts, as your own eyes be tellin ya. When was the last time ya even seen one of them hi-lux ones? That factory pushed out many of em, yet they all be gone. Where they be? Rotted out and gone, used up for sure. If ya goin work em, get ya a big3 one, if chasin after a fad, get ya a forien one now. Good luck on this one now!
My daughter had a soccer game today. The field was right next to a Toyota dealership (Star Toyota I-45 south of Houston). They had at least 50 Tundras lined up on the lot and also a fresh truck load of Tundras waiting to be unloaded. At first I thought some of them must be Tacomas, it is hard to tell the difference. But as we left they all had the outside door handle on the rear door. Where are all the Tundras? Looks like most are still on the dealers lot waiting to be sold. I would expect another round of deep discounts on the Tundra. Which is not a bad thing - allows many people who can only afford a compact Tacoma to move up to the mid-size Tundra.
Tundras on the road....ever figured it this way? If their goal is to manufacture 100,000 a year, that's 8333 a month or for 11 months thats 91,663 divided by 50 for the number of states would equal 1,833. Now compare that with Ford and Chevy numbers, I would say that the odds of seeing one on the road is very slim which all of you seem to verify. If you'd like to do a better comparison, look for a Camry.
Could be that fad on them pickup trucks be winding down now. Bet them yuppies be off chasin some new fad. If so, them tundras be goin the way of them t100 ones even quicker now. Good luck on this one now!
I have a hitch on my Tundra. I don't know if it came from the factory or if it was a dealer installed option. Don't really care, as long as it has one. As for the reason farmers buy the big 3 trucks: farmers don't have a lot of money so they have to just "settle" for the big 3 trucks. No, actually it has more to do with brand loyalty. They've been building trucks longer than anyone else has, so chances are the farmers keep buying the brand they had years ago.
Justtheone, I loaded my truck with firewood today. It was quite heavy, since when I would hit a hard bump I could feel the axle hit the rubber stop. I had 3 piles of all stacked wood, and most of it was wet since it was sitting in a pile. One piece would be around 15-20 pounds. Had a heap on the center. I'm sure it was over the recommended payload limit. It got the job done, and quite nicely. Isn't that what it's all about? By the way, my truck lost it's shine, it's all covered with road salt and dust.
Of the 6 tundras i seen this weekend one was actually hauling something. It had a riding garden tractor. Weighed the truck down pretty good. The rear end was sagging pretty low.
Ever eyeball them beds on them tundras now? What was that factory doin when they built that one? It aint deep at all now. I be thinkin that them little big3 ones got bigger beds than them tundras now. I think that factory was hintin at somethin when they put that tiny bed on them limited ones now. Ya sure aint goin haul much of nothin in that little bed, thats for sure. Good luck on this one now!
Hearin tells on them tundras draggin bottom with them little beds filled up. Bet ya a full bed on them limited ones be takin up bout 1/2 them big3 beds. Use your eyes on this one. That bed be tiny for sure. Course it looks "just right" on them limited ones now, but they aint "full size" for sure. So much for "workin" them forien ones. Good luck on this one now!
Is them beds on them tacomas and them tundras the same ones now? They be lookin too be the same now. What say, is them ones the same now? Good luck on this one now!
When I hauled our biggest fourwheeler on the back, which weighs in at around 650 lbs, the back end didn't go down much.
Justtheone, I like the bed a little shallower. If I need to reach something out of the bed or in the middle of the bed, it's much easier to reach from the side compared to a deep bed.
That got too be real convient on how them shallow and tiny beds make it easy too be reachin for things in em. So what if ya cant be haulin much! Some folks just aint gettin that point of them trucks now. Good luck on this one now!
i find it interesting that you think one of the reasons farmer-types buy the big 3 is cost. i would agree with your brand loyalty assessment. i mean, that's why someone would buy a tundra if you think about it. most folks who buy tundras buy because they've wanted trucks in the past, but fear buying american. now, toyota produces a "full-size" truck and folks automatically want to assign toyota's reliability reputation to it. a lot of the folks that post on tundra solutions (and here for that matter) will tell you that they either had a bad experience with the big three (and hence decided to try toyota) or that they've always owned toyota (be it cars or trucks) and were happy when toyota produced a "full-sized" truck. if that's not brand loyalty, i'm not sure what is...but anyways, back to my question.
everything i've read here says that tundras and trucks made by the big three are all pretty comparably priced (when comparably equipped). were you just "thinking out loud" or do you think price truly has an impact on what farmer-type people buy?
Just like when them t100 ones first come along, that factory was hootin em up as "full size" ones. Now they hootin up them limited ones as "full size" too. Well they aint full size, werent then, aint now. Use your eyes, or take them stick measurements on it, them results goin be the same now. Facts is facts. Good luck on this one now!
Does it really matter what farmers do with their trucks? Would farmers buying big3 trucks really mean anything of significance?
Libby obviously knows nothing about '52 pickups or farms. She has already been exposed as a liar. If she is really an example of the average farmer's intellect - I would buy whatever they aren't buying.
I think that as much as Libby is hung up on rear seats - she would be happier in a minivan. She wouldn't have to worry about the testosterone lowering effect since she doesn't have any anyway.
Let's get back to facts. The T100 won the J.D. Powers award for most dependable full size pickup. This is the result of a 5 year study.
My father in law is a farmer. He has a one man operation. He raises about 40 head of cattle. He plants hay, harvests it, stores it and takes care of cattle year round. He owns a '90 Ford F250 but he doesn't use it on his farm. He doesn't want to destroy what he considers to be a relatively new truck.
The truck he works daily is a 1970 model 3/4 ton pickup. It is beat to hell and back. It has finally gotten to the point that it is pretty much unusable. He plans to get a new model for his personal truck and move the Ford F250 into farm duty.
Is he typical? Probably not. But I would be willing to bet that not many brand new pickups get used on a farm such as his.
Rooster is probably correct in his assumption that farmers are cost conscious. I know of one farmer that is.
BCO, I was kinda joking when I said that farmers probably buy big 3 trucks because of cost. It has more to do with brand loyalty than anything. I've never owned a Toyota before, I've never driven a Toyota in my life before the test drive of the Tundra, and it was the first foreign truck I've ever even been in. I bought it because I liked it better than the other ones I drove. Everybody has different needs.
I totally agree with bamatundra about how farmers probably wouldn't use a new truck on their farm, they'd drive the beater. I live on a farm, we used to have cattle but we got rid of 'em. Yes, farmers do have a tough time to make a living. Most around here have to work a full time job just to keep their farm going. So maybe cost does have something to do with it. Keep in mind that usually they can get a discount on a truck being used on the farm, or at least they pay no sales tax. On our farm, my parents leased a new truck. Did they ever use that truck for farmwork? Nope. Used the beater, that's what it's for.
Regardless of what JD powers says, the T100 was a gutless midsize truck. It's actually easier to put together a truck that holds up and is underpowered than the other way around. More people damage thier own truck by abuse than they break down. Toyota built in a safty net in the T100 by making it underpowered.
By the way, where do you get off calling Libby a liar? If you are referring to that picture that was posted, you COULD be right, but where I live you are innocent until PROVEN guilty. The burden of proof is always on the prosecusion not the defense.
For them folks who be swearin that picture above be a tacoma one, please be notin it got them "outside" rear door handles now. Yep, that be a "full size" one for sure. Also be notin how that backend be bent downward, this be caused by that "load" this one be haulin. Also be notin that "shine" of that one. It sure is a shiny one now. Good luck on this one now!
Anyone who purports to be something they are not and represents as theirs things that are not is a liar in my book. "Libby" qualifies and gets all the respect s/he deserves as a result.
The T100 could holds it own in the power department with the 3.4 V6. Also the T100 came in a 1 ton (thats how Toyota called it) version that could haul around 2500 pounds. Thats a lot of weight for any 1/2 ton truck.
What does the amount of power have anything to do with longevity anyway? Example: A Pontiac Firebird with a V8 will not last as long as a Pontiac Firebird with a V6 because it has more power. Bad Argument!
Well said. Libby "the Limited one" has been exposed as a liar.
Libby - That's a nice picture. Its a shame that the Big2 can't build trucks like that. You need to calm down just a little bit. And what happened to "yuppies"? Isn't that one working for you any more? At least Libby CAN be trained.
The T100 has been replaced by the Tundra. The T100 was a good truck. It had problems selling for two reasons: It was overpriced and it was not available with a V8. The Tundra cures both of these problems. 90% of Tundras are being sold with V8s and they are now comparably priced with the Big2.
Farmer I know has a 2500 77 Chevy...beat to hell like you said..for the work truck....then his 92 2500 has been seeing the ugly stuff lately....since he got his New one......
I have yet to see a Non Big three used on a farm...it's almost always Ford and Chevy...
Where they all go too? Aint no t100 ones or none of them hi-lux ones nowhere too be seen. They all used up, just like all them other forien ones. So much for that quality of them ones. How bout them head-gaskets popin? And what bout them ones rustin out? What say too these ones now? Truth is truth, facts is facts. Use your eyes on these ones now. Them forien ones aint got no haul, but they got shine! Chase that shine yuppie! Good luck on this one now!
tundradude If you under power the vehicle, the transmission and rearend will never undergo the hard strain under heavy acceleration. Generally speaking if you are under powered you will drive slower and more conservatively making life easier on the suspesion and brakes. I had a baby toyota truck and that is how you drive them.
timothyadavis and bama Where is this proof? How was Libby exposed? Did I miss something? All I remember reading is that a picture that Libby posted was found on another site and credited to someone named Don. If I missed something, let me know otherwise be sure and stay off any jury duty.
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I only coutned the 53 as 1500 not 2500 or 3500 and they were all the new body style. Just think if i counted all chevys. But according to bama they are all junk. Why are so many on the roads then? I didnt even count dodge or ford there were even more.
Ryan
And the so-called full size Chevy only weighs 100lbs more than the Tundra. Are they making them out of recycled tin cans now?
The first time you try to work them, they will be dropping like flies.
I got this off of MSN Carpoint:
2001 Chevrolet Silverado 1500LT Ext. Cab Short Bed 4WD
(DIO) 2-In. Receiver Hitch For Trailering (Mfr Code #TRH)
In case you didn't know: DIO is an acronym for DEALER INSTALLED OPTION
I think this post is good for at least 5 "yuppies" and 5 "Tundra hitches".
- Tim
Ryan
this mornign went driving. 15 silverados 0 tundras
Damn
I know mine was. Do you have the trans cooler? I know i do.
Oh yea coming home from my trip today. 330 mls not a 1 tundra. Countless number of silverados. Care to explain why the silverados outnumber the tundras but you say they are all junk? How come about 1/3 of all the ones i seen had trailers (horse, travel, boat, 5th wheels) none of the tundras did.
Bama maybe you should go out driving and see reality for yourself. There are sure alot of chevys out there. (fords and dodges too).
Ryan
Ryan
Ryan
Justtheone, I loaded my truck with firewood today. It was quite heavy, since when I would hit a hard bump I could feel the axle hit the rubber stop. I had 3 piles of all stacked wood, and most of it was wet since it was sitting in a pile. One piece would be around 15-20 pounds. Had a heap on the center. I'm sure it was over the recommended payload limit. It got the job done, and quite nicely. Isn't that what it's all about? By the way, my truck lost it's shine, it's all covered with road salt and dust.
Ryan
Justtheone, I like the bed a little shallower. If I need to reach something out of the bed or in the middle of the bed, it's much easier to reach from the side compared to a deep bed.
i find it interesting that you think one of the reasons farmer-types buy the big 3 is cost. i would agree with your brand loyalty assessment. i mean, that's why someone would buy a tundra if you think about it. most folks who buy tundras buy because they've wanted trucks in the past, but fear buying american. now, toyota produces a "full-size" truck and folks automatically want to assign toyota's reliability reputation to it. a lot of the folks that post on tundra solutions (and here for that matter) will tell you that they either had a bad experience with the big three (and hence decided to try toyota) or that they've always owned toyota (be it cars or trucks) and were happy when toyota produced a "full-sized" truck. if that's not brand loyalty, i'm not sure what is...but anyways, back to my question.
everything i've read here says that tundras and trucks made by the big three are all pretty comparably priced (when comparably equipped). were you just "thinking out loud" or do you think price truly has an impact on what farmer-type people buy?
bco
Libby obviously knows nothing about '52 pickups or farms. She has already been exposed as a liar. If she is really an example of the average farmer's intellect - I would buy whatever they aren't buying.
I think that as much as Libby is hung up on rear seats - she would be happier in a minivan. She wouldn't have to worry about the testosterone lowering effect since she doesn't have any anyway.
Let's get back to facts. The T100 won the J.D. Powers award for most dependable full size pickup. This is the result of a 5 year study.
My father in law is a farmer. He has a one man operation. He raises about 40 head of cattle. He plants hay, harvests it, stores it and takes care of cattle year round. He owns a '90 Ford F250 but he doesn't use it on his farm. He doesn't want to destroy what he considers to be a relatively new truck.
The truck he works daily is a 1970 model 3/4 ton pickup. It is beat to hell and back. It has finally gotten to the point that it is pretty much unusable. He plans to get a new model for his personal truck and move the Ford F250 into farm duty.
Is he typical? Probably not. But I would be willing to bet that not many brand new pickups get used on a farm such as his.
Rooster is probably correct in his assumption that farmers are cost conscious. I know of one farmer that is.
By the way - What happened to your caps key?
I totally agree with bamatundra about how farmers probably wouldn't use a new truck on their farm, they'd drive the beater. I live on a farm, we used to have cattle but we got rid of 'em. Yes, farmers do have a tough time to make a living. Most around here have to work a full time job just to keep their farm going. So maybe cost does have something to do with it. Keep in mind that usually they can get a discount on a truck being used on the farm, or at least they pay no sales tax. On our farm, my parents leased a new truck. Did they ever use that truck for farmwork? Nope. Used the beater, that's what it's for.
Wheres the T100 NOW???
Exactly i dont need an answer to that question we all know pooh its gone
Ryan
By the way, where do you get off calling Libby a liar? If you are referring to that picture that was posted, you COULD be right, but where I live you are innocent until PROVEN guilty. The burden of proof is always on the prosecusion not the defense.
What does the amount of power have anything to do with longevity anyway? Example: A Pontiac Firebird with a V8 will not last as long as a Pontiac Firebird with a V6 because it has more power. Bad Argument!
Ryan
Ryan
Libby - That's a nice picture. Its a shame that the Big2 can't build trucks like that. You need to calm down just a little bit. And what happened to "yuppies"? Isn't that one working for you any more? At least Libby CAN be trained.
Ryan
Farmer I know has a 2500 77 Chevy...beat to hell like you said..for the work truck....then his 92 2500 has been seeing the ugly stuff lately....since he got his New one......
I have yet to see a Non Big three used on a farm...it's almost always Ford and Chevy...
back to nonsense boys
- Tim
timothyadavis and bama Where is this proof? How was Libby exposed? Did I miss something? All I remember reading is that a picture that Libby posted was found on another site and credited to someone named Don. If I missed something, let me know otherwise be sure and stay off any jury duty.