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Honda Civic Coupe / Civic Si 2006+
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The vtec engine is so smooth & quiet that it is really a blast to rev it to the redline.
Long term mileage on any car I have owned has never improved by more than 1 mpg, and most don't change at all. But power increases - a seemingly inconsistent combination, but go figure.
I do have two issues. What? Yes, the stereo sometimes skips. Its a very late afternoon/night issue and I think it has something to do with vehicle power or the stereo over heats. If its not over heating then I blame the stereo power supply or the whole vehicle electrical system has an issue (night lights on, A/C on, fog lights, stereo on etc). Also, I get a rattle from the rear deck once the car cools down. The rattle is not present when the vehicle is in the sun and the interior has heated up. Anyone else have these issue?
MPG has been 32 MPG with A/C on 80% of the time and moderate acceleration. :shades:
Goose, Are you sure the rattle is not actually coming from the exterior back? I noticed on my new Coupe that they only put 2 screws instead of 4 to fasten the back license plate on, and the license plate rattles loudly when I shut the trunk lid. Could this be the source of your mysterious rattle? Check that all your plate screws are on anyway just to be sure, both front and back. I plan to get them to correct this annoyance when I go in to get my leather steering wheel cover put on in another week or so.
I just love my 10 day old 2006 EX Civic Coupe. Just a fabulous car, at what I think is a good price. Love driving with the moon roof open- like having a convertible without convertible hassles. The turning and handling is smooth, powerful but quiet engine. It's definitely a small car (that's one reason I chose it) yet so sleek. No more 4 door "family sedans" for me!
As to colors....I love my white EX with its black window trim. I put a full black nose mask to complete the jazzy black & white look. I also like the warm honey tone of the "Ivory" interior. I am ordering a cream colored custom sheepskin seat cover for the driver's seat that will look great with the ivory interior.
I tried out some of the other colors for the Coupe. The black was definitely groovy but too somber in mood. The grey was a nice warm grey but it reminded me a bit of old folks in their oldsmobiles so I passed on that. The silver was too dull a silver and so it wound up reminding me of plastic that was trying to look like silver. The atomic blue was too Superman-y colored. The dark blue and the rallye red have not come out yet. But I've spent the past 13 years driving a red car anyway and I wanted a change from red. The Taffeta White car just jumped right out on the lot and looked really sporty to me combined with the black window trim and black tires. The white exterior really shows off the dark moon roof and its black trim, the shapes of the lights, and the sleek lines of the car overall.
With the blask mask, it really looks outstanding.
Still on my dealer tank of gas and I won't count that one, so I don't know what mileage I will get yet.
Strumelia
Still, I don't believe it really is an issue. We all get that extended body sense in a car after driving it for a short period of time that gives us an intuitive understanding of its size. Much like you can touch your nose with your eyes closed, you just know where the front of your car is. The new Civic just makes that easier. With the rake of the windshield, you are seeing halfway down what would be the hood in most cars before you get to the glass. The part in front of that is pretty small.
All in all, I think this is a completely hypothetical issue and cannot imagine it really being a problem in actual usage.
I'm 4'11," and I test drove the Civic, and it wasn't a problem at all for me. I'm sure your daughter will be fine (provided that she isn't just 5 feet of legs).
Also my wife, who is just 5' even, would have the same issue. Whenever I use her car (RX330) I can't believe how high and close to the steering wheel her seating position is - I have no hope of even getting in the car unless I move the seat back first! This makes a tilt/telescoping steering wheel a must if all three of us would want to use any car in the family, including quite possibly a new Civic, which I am seriously considering. I've read some posts by big people commenting that it offers enough room for them, at least in front, but I don't think anyone had asked or commented on how it works for shorter drivers.
My wife is also quite short & she is perfectly happy with the new 06 Civic EX coupe we just bought. The designers in Honda are reasonable smart & they are not going to kick short customers out of their showrooms by building cars which can only be driven by tall people.
Honda has been designing cars for many years, they do not have to hire a rocket scientist to design a car seat that can be adjusted to fit all people....tall or short (by the way, Honda does design jet planes & robots).
The Civic Coupe is a subcompact. If a lady is tall enough to drive a SUV, she is tall enough to drive the Civic Coupe. If people worry that the wife is too short to drive a sub-compact, they should worry how the wife can climb up & down a SUV.
Just buy a pillow or a child booster seat or sit on a phone book.....
http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000737066425/
* 197-hp, 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC engine (vs 140-hp 1.8L)
* 6 Speed Manual(vs 5 Speed)
* Limited Slip Differential
* Fancy 17inch rims (vs plain 16")
* Rear Spoiler
* Leather Wrapped Steer Wheel
* Aluminum Shift knob and pedals
What is this stuff gonna cost you?
EX +Navi ~$20K financed at 6% comes to $386/month
Si +Navi ~$22K financed at 6% comes to $425/month
Assume you drive 10K miles a year:
EX 36 MPG = 278GAL Gas $3/gal= $833/yr or $69/month
Si 27MPG = 370GAL Gas $3/gal= $1111/yr or $93/month
Quoted insurance differential was about $30/year (this will vary widely)= $3/month
So, the Si will cost about $100 per month more to operate for your average commuter. Worth it or not?
area with the rear seats folded forward (assume front wheel off) ?
(1) The dealer may not have totally filled-up the gas tank to the top when they handed you the new car.
(2) Your wife may have over revive (or under revive) with a new car when changing gear with a new clutch & a new engine. She need some time to get the feel of the new car inorder to establish her "normal" shifting pattern.
I also bought a new EX manual coupe (...smart choice, mate). I had so much fun reviving the i-vtec that I don't care about MPG any more (although initially, I bought the car because the MPG shown on the sticker).
Hey, enjoy your new car & forget the MPG. Compare to any car on the road (except hybrids or motorcycles), I am sure that your EX manual coupe is getting better MPG no matter how you step on the accelerator.
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You did not give any information as to what kind of driving it was with the 34 mpg.... City driving, highway driving, a mix of both or what ? I am getting 25 mpg in city only driving with my coupe ex automatic, no highway, no jack rabbeting, no sudden stops, just easy driving. Vehicle is just two weeks old and know it will improve
Then again, if you are talking about the glare from the sun then I guess you can ignore my comment above?
On another note....you seem to like your Civic Coupe right?
I am thinking about buying one for my wife....although we don't need this car....it looks like it may be fun to have just because....we have two small kids...but they should be able to get in and out no problem....we do have a Pilot and an Accord....so we have other options....
My main question is about the power of the engine....does it seem to be enough? I have read some posts say they can't really feel the difference between this motor and the one that was in the 05...(140hp vs 127 in the EX model).
Thanks
I 'm sure it will excel in the handling dept. with the LSD and the bigger tires, probably stiffer chassis (than old Si and GSR) but I can almost guarantee you it will in no way surpass the Type-R in handling or acceleration. The new Si has a 17mm rear sway bar. The Type-R had a 22mm. The new Si has a very large front 27mm sway bar. That's bad for FWD cars. The bigger the front bar the greater the understeer is. Type-R has a 24mm front sway (as does GSR, '99-00 Si had 22mm front). We 'll see if the new Si can match the .89g skidpad of the Type-R and 69.Xmph slalom speed (surpassed only by a few RWD more expensive sports cars). I think it will come close but not match or exceed these #s. Still for $21K the Si is a great buy. The Type-R cost $24.8K 4-5yrs ago. Maybe I shouldn't compare it to the Type-R because it was limited production with a hand built motor and reinforced chassis (much more than GSR) built to be a race car more than a daily driver, but I think the road test #s will show that the Type-R will continue to hold the #1 spot among the best handling FWD cars.
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
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'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
I like the car very much so far. I have 800 miles on it. I came from a 2000 focus, this car has more power. I have been taking it easy so far but the power seems like it will be just fine. The engine is very smooth. I tried the M3 but this just felt right. It may not be quite as sporty to drive but I like the looks of the car much better, interior and exterior. It feels solid as can be.
Or at least it 'd be nice to see the Civic Type-R make it to the US for once. They had the 7th gen. Civic Type-R a couple of yrs ago in other markets. Even if the new CTR has the same 197 or 201HP it would be a great machine. Shave 80-100lbs, no sunroof, etc., reinforce the chassis/bigger pillars & welds like they did with the Integra Type-R, give it a more race-like (ie: Type-R) suspension, the customary (but useable/down force) rear wing, a little bigger brakes, and wala! I 'd pay $2K more than the Si for it.
I think it would compete nicely with the likes of the Neon SRT4 and Saturn Redline which are both inexpensive fast cars. The Si could give these cars a run for their money but I don't think it would beat them in straight line acceleration.
What I don't understand is why Honda released these great R cars in Europe (I can see Asia) when the US & Canada are their biggest customer..
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
Other weirdnesses I noticed:
1) Only 1 keyhole on the car - driver's side. None on passenger side or trunk.
2) Side-view mirros don't flip. They do on the sedan, but not the coupe.
3) No rear-window wiper
Any thoughts on these? I'm very used to them; I'm still driving my 92 Si, which has them.
2) Side-view mirros don't flip. They do on the sedan, but not the coupe.
3) No rear-window wiper
Any thoughts on these?>>
1) I have never had a passenger that needs to open their door with a key. Besides, you can unlock all the doors simultaneously with your remote/masterkey. If you really want a passenger to be able to unlock their door from the outside, just give them the other remote key.
My main point: Remote key devices make key HOLES unecessary in many cases.
The same is true for the trunk. You can pull the trunk lever inside to open the trunk when you're getting out of your car, or you can (on the EX) pop the trunk open by clicking your remote/key at it if you are walking towards your car with a cart full of groceries. The question is WHY would you have the need or urge to physically stick your key in some hole and turn it, if you can just aim your key at the car and click the trunk open without touching it instead? Like window crank handles, you just don't need keyholes as much anymore if you have button controls.
3) As to the rear wiper, aren't rear wipers judged needed or not based on the slant of the rear window? If the rear window is rather horizontally slanted as in the '06 Coupe, then snow would accumulate on it and freeze, thus making the rear wiper very vulnerable to stress and breakage. It would be sort of like putting a wiper on the roof- probably not a good idea.
Strumelia
Does anyone have any experience with these?
RT test was glowing with praise
The reality is Honda is going cheap and cutting costs. They figure Civic buyers from 10+yrs ago would not be buying Civics today so they took out a few things in hopes noone would notice. And sadly most people don't, unless you 've owned 3 Civics like me or still drive a '92 like my friend Strumelia replied to about the wipers.
My '97 Civic Hatchback had a rear wiper, and no it was not slanted. It was almost vertical. My '99 Integra has a rear wiper and it's slanted to a great degree like the '06 Civic's front windshield and more, completely the opposite of the '97 Civic. Yet they both have the rear wiper. I wish every car had a rear wiper. They 're invaluable in any weather! I 've even used it to wipe dust & mud from my rear window when I found my self sorrounded by bulldozers and construction MAC trucks while vising PA one weekend with 20mph gusts that was blowing brown & red dirt to my car.
Anyway I backed up into my landscaper's truck in my driveway with the '01 Civic EX coupe because it didn't have a rear wiper. It was cold and there was mist (almost frost but not quite - it was liquid rain) on my rear windshield. Couldn't see a thing. If I had a rear wiper it would have wiped all that water right off and I could have seen clearly through it like nothing was there. Anyway when I got in my car in the morning to go to work, there was noone parked behind me. I get in the car, start warming it up, turn the radio on, etc. A minute later I 'm ready to back out. I look in the rear view mirror and all I can see is a big blurr with the mist/water on the rear window. I check my side-view mirrors, nothing. My driveway curves and there is a big spruce where the bend is so I can't see the entrance to my driveway from near the garage. The landscaper had just pulled up and put it in park but was parked all the way in the back where my 90ft driveway starts. I 'm backing up slowly looking behind me but that dang windshield is still misty wet. Luckily I started putting my window down so I can stick my head out a little to see behind me and braked just in time but still got a tiny dent on the bumper cover. This would have never happened with my '97 Civic. It's also very helpful when it snows or when you 're driving through a blizzard. My '01 EX gets so bad during my commute when it snows that I can't see a thing through that rear window. The rear wiper helps keep the rear clear of any snow if you use it every 5min. or so when driving through a snow storm or you just use it whenever you feel like it or change lanes. It takes 1-2 days for snow to freeze on your windshield. It doesn't freeze as soon as it touches your car. It stays soft and "wipeable" for many hours. I 've even wiped 3-4" of snow with that little rear wiper.
It's a shame that Honda could afford to put it on a $12K DX hatchback (Note: DX model!) or a $10K '92 Civic but not a $19K one.
Trust me it's 10X better than not having one. I miss it a lot. I hope the NHTSA make it a safety issue so it becomes standard on all cars imported to the US.
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
So, I don't think it is cost cutting.... They just don't deem it necessary.. It is a coupe, not a hatchback..
I can't think of too many other makes that put rear wipers on coupes... Porsche comes to mind, but I can't think of any others..
regards,
kyfdx
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I do hear what you are saying about the convenience of having a rear wiper on a car. I had one on my Jeep Wagoneer once, but not on my '93 Corolla sedan. However....
I learned last year the hard lesson about backing up without doublechecking what's behind you. My back window was quite clear at the time in my Corolla, and after checking through it, I backed out- right into a low wheelbarrow that was left behind my car. People do this with lawnmowers and kids bikes all the time.
The truth is that we all should be more careful. After warming up your engine, you "should" have brushed off your rear window before pulling out so you could see out of it. We should NEVER back up without being able to see what's behind us at that very moment. Some toddler might have wandered into your driveway instead of that landscaper's truck. Would you have done the same in the supermarket parking lot?-probably not. But your driveway is a parking lot too, after all.
Snow can fall on your window overnight and then turn to freezing rain by dawn and be frozen within an hour. Or sometimes I have driven a while and then parked for the night during a snowfall. The car window is warm and the snow hits it and the under layer melts while more snow accumulates on top. You may not realize in the morning that there is that layer of ice under the snow on your rear window.
I agree with you that rear wipers are convenient to have, but seems to me I usually see them (with misting sprayers) in stationwagon or hatchback type cars, not sporty coupes. I think Honda skipped it on the coupe to avoid a stodgey chauffer-the-kids-around look, not to cut costs.
Just my opinion,
Strumelia
Prius: Hatchback
Pilot: Wagon
Don't get me wrong.. I see the value in it.. I just don't know who else is doing it... Porsche? Who else?
regards,
kyfdx
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I wonder if there is some particular reason why hatchbacks (fairly horizontal back glass) and wagons/SUV's (essentially vertical back glass) have wipers but coupes don't? In many cases, the angle of the back glass on coupes is not that different from a hatchback, so why no rear wiper?
Is it a 'style' thing? Are hatchback owner's considered more 'practical' so will have more desire for a rear wiper, but coupe owners more 'stylish' and not want the wiper to disturb the lines of the car?
I agree that the rear wiper would be a nice feature on this car also, especially given the rather severe slope of the rear window. Hopefully the rear defrost works very quickly and does a good job of keeping the entire glass clear when the snow is falling. I don't suppose too many new owners have had occasion to test its capabilities as yet.