Edmunds dealer partner, Bayway Leasing, is now offering transparent lease deals via these forums. Click here to see May lease deals!
Options
Popular New Cars
Popular Used Sedans
Popular Used SUVs
Popular Used Pickup Trucks
Popular Used Hatchbacks
Popular Used Minivans
Popular Used Coupes
Popular Used Wagons
Comments
The RAV4 -- you can now get one without a tire on the back if you buy the top end model with run-flats (!!!!!).
That is the last thing I want in a new vehicle. One of the guys at the bank showed me his new 135i BMW a few months ago. His only complaint was getting a flat tire and the $380 to replace the "run flat" tire. It was a roofing nail and the dealer said it cannot be fixed. Have to replace. I don't see them as a plus for a new car. I have AAA for that unintended eventuality. Over 30 years have never used them for a flat tire.
I don't think Toyota has near enough money to do that. Honda assets are about $125 billion. First you have to find enough investors willing to give up their stock. If Honda is making any profit finding 51% would be unlikely.
http://world.honda.com/investors/annualreport/2010/pdf/honda2010ar-p03-05.pdf
This is becoming an annual event. Should rhyme with eleven though ... something like "2011 Sales Up, Toyota's in Heaven".
We'll accept near rhymes like "2011 Toyota Impression". Y'all have all month, and please, no wagering.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Who knows if that might change in the future. I hate to say it (as an owner of a Honda vehicle and various equipment including a bike) but I think their quality is slipping also.
And so will Hyundai and Ford a few years from now, if they let their present success go to their head. Greed is a nasty revolving door. Finding the balance and committing to it is key.
That cracked me up - I remember them and yes, that was hysterical.
Funny to think the STI and IS-F could be related in some way.
..for a change.
The Prius-based people mover will arrive soon and could add some decent volume for them.
The RAV4 is due for an update soon, no?
New Lexus GS and IS models are also coming soon.
And I guess I'm wrong - now it's not a recall.
You say tomato, I say potato....
Don't Call It A Recall: 650,000 Unit Repair Campaign Issued For 2004 - 2007 Toyota Prius (Inside Line)
They probably wanted to keep it light so MPG doesn't drop too much, but that limits its usefulness as a family car.
She didn't care for the Mazda5 too much, which surprised me when I suggested she go look at one last year. I dunno; I'm hoping we don't have to trade for another couple of years but the rides are getting long in the tooth.
There's a lot of room between the Prius and Sienna for something right-sized.
I'm sure the take-rate for a manual-equipped people mover would be low anyway, but it's nice that someone offers one.
Actually, I suspect the majority BMW drivers have no idea their car is equipped with run flats until they have a need to know.
While some owners certainly replace them with non-run-flats, again, I suspect most don't.
If one measures popularity by looking at sales, it certainly doesn't seem to have had much, if any, negative impact on BMW sales.... especially, since there isn't a non-run-flat option from the factory.
I'm neutral on the issue... I see both positives and negatives.
On the positive side, I lost a neighbor in the last 2-3 years due to being hit by a drunk driver while changing a flat on the side of the interstate hwy. He was well off the roadside, but was still hit. Chances are, if he had run-flats, he would be alive today.
On the negative side, I don't think they are any easier to get a flat than any other tire in general, but they are expensive, almost impossible to patch, have a harsher ride and don't have the same treadwear characteristics as non-run-flats.
I've heard so many horror stories there's no way I'd want them. Higher up front cost, more unsprung weight, stiffer ride, low tread life, high replacement cost, limited availability (and not all shops are even equipped to mount them!), the list goes on.
And the funny thing is I just had a flat this weekend.
Tragic about your neighbor, though.
We really like our 2007 Mazda 5, it is small and agile while having a lot of room.
I saw the "nagare" at the LA Auto show and it is really quite subtle in person.
I'm surprised nobody else has brought something like this to the US: I think Ford will do so late next year with the C Max.
Wow...it really holds da road well. I have to get silly with the pedals and steering to get it to go off on an ice glide. And that just brings me back to 16 y's old driving Dad's '66 VW Fastback in to landscape rockery in Lynnwood, WA, on a wild Friday night. That did it...I've driven like a man 50 years older ever since that!
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Toyota's still sellin' in 2011.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
...and GM can offer marketing with apple pie and dancers, as well as suspensions for really floaty rides -- as well as how to raise $billions in public funding for new adventures!
besides, you have all that urban traffic in your neighborhood.....
Toyota has already used "apple pie" and "American dancers" to sell their product. They have tried to Americanize themselves.
Toyota should look at some of the strategies GM used through the used and avoid those techniques. Apparently, toyota is a slow learned based on observations from 2002 to current date. However, toyota has avoided the UAW union successfully, and that's a good thing.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I guess I didn't see dancers at last year's auto show for Toyota, that doesn't mean they haven't used them. Which venue was that at? How about the apple pie? I do remember the jingle playing during baseball games a few years ago "Motherhood, Apple Pie, and Chevrolet". I have missed Toyota's use of apple pie.
Toyota should look at some of the strategies GM used through the used and avoid those techniques. Apparently, toyota is a slow learned based on observations from 2002 to current date. However, toyota has avoided the UAW union successfully, and that's a good thing.
Well I wouldn't call 2002-2010 slow if we calibrate against GM :P .
Agree about avoiding the union and the benefits of that.
Maybe we'll get "football, hamburgers, pumpkin pie and Toyota."..... Just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Agreed, but most people don't consult a tire shop when buying a new car...or used one. When re-shoe-ing, however, yes, I think the tire dealer should offer options, but fully explain all the pros and cons.
I've heard so many horror stories there's no way I'd want them. Higher up front cost, more unsprung weight, stiffer ride, low tread life, high replacement cost, limited availability (and not all shops are even equipped to mount them!), the list goes on
Well, other than those, there aren't many disadvantages...
On the other hand, the advantage of being able to continue after having a flat in a rough area of a city, or for one who is unable to change a flat (disabled, small build person, young female, etc.) may be enough justification for one to use run-flats.
Personally, I'm not too wild about having an unsecured spare rattling around in my already "rather small" BMW trunk. But, that's just me. I was fully aware of the run-flat issues welll ahead of buying my BMWs. I was willing to accept them.
Umm, seriously? I would say all of those are Honda weak points. I would take a Toyota automatic all day long before I would consider a Honda automatic, and whenever people ask me, I strictly advise against buying a used Honda automatic. WAY too much risk with one of those fragile things.
Honda COULD teach Toyota a thing or two about making a car that is not a rolling couch, but I don't think it's worth the risk of Toyota sucking the rest of the goodness out of Honda along the way.
For the same reason, it worried me a little when Toyota took a 16% stake in Subaru, but so far it seems to be OK - Toyota is letting Subaru continue its own development programs for the mechanicals.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
America is asking you to call
Drive your Chevrolet through the USA
America's the greatest land of all
On a highway, or a road along the levy
Performance is sweeter, nothing can beat her
Life is completer in a Chevy
So make a date today to see the USA
And see it in your Chevrolet
Traveling East, Travelling West
Wherever you go Chevy service is best
Southward or North, near place or far
There's a Chevrolet dealer for your Chevrolet car
So make a date today to see the USA
And see it in your Chevrolet.
More people like us and Toyota would go broke.
I'm liking the still selling stuff. :-)
Were the climate a touch better you'd have me tempted. Well, that and the nasty little thing of me needing regular access to some pretty special medical care. I'm still counting on getting to be an old fezo but it takes more care than your average bear.
I'm getting a pretty good clue as to where you are. I'd guess at an actual town but I know you are withholding that.
How about "Toyota be Revvin' in 2011" Not that I believe that....
I can walk to pretty much any amenity I need, but I live in a more dense downtown area...if I was in a more distant suburb, a car would be pretty much required unless I had all day to do simple errands.
Fez, my wife is driving her mom an hour over to the eye specialist right this minute, so yeah, it's like Mexico. Take two aspirin and get to a plane or something. We do have the Ace and True Value though. No Mexican food though. I think we need some Latino immigrants to enliven the place and get some jobs going.
There is a Toyota dealer in Marquette and one down in Iron Mountain. :-)
Is Marquette the "big city" from where you are? Not like there are lots of candidates. Maybe the Soo would be the other but it's not like that's big either.
avoided the UAW union successfully, and that's a good thing
I have never agreed with you more.
Thought of one more - much less selection. Very few tire brands sell them. You'll also have far fewer fitments if you want to keep the OE size.
For sure there are advantage to run-flats, just not worth it for me.
I don't imagine Honda and Toyota collaborating much at all. Neither one would benefit much, except maybe Honda using HSD instead of their mild hybrids.
Did you guys see the Insight got a price cut, along with de-contenting? Navi is no longer standard, cheaper cloth, 2 speaker base stereo, but they got the cost under $19k with freight.
It needed some help - the Prius outsells it nearly 10 to 1.
In that case how about:
Unwanted Revvin' in 2011?