Car Commercials, the good, the bad, and the annoying!

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    They were pretty cool for their time anyway, I seem to remember they were pretty pricey too.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    I don't remember. When I looked at the m it was as used cars. Of course they were a bit pricey then....
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,389
    edited February 2012
    I liked the mid-'70's Cutlass Salon, which was one of GM's first attempts at building a competitor to European sport sedans- it even had a column mounted dimmer switch!

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    The Pontiac Grand Am was a much edgier attempt from the same time frame:

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,956
    that bought the first commerical space after the superbowl game started?
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Body color hubcaps = European

    That Grand Am shows how GM really trashed the name later on.

    I saw a Toyota commercial this morning about deals on the 2011 RAV4. It's March 2012.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://fitzmall.com/fitzway

    They have 75 of them and only 1 is a leftover 2011.

    Per Edmunds, the 2011 model has up to $500 cash back, while the 2012 has up to $1000 cash back. Bizarre!

    http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/car-incentives.html

    That could explain why some 2011s haven't sold. Not sure which models qualify for what, but an older model is a tough sell when it has fewer incentives.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Maybe the old one is nicer, somehow. Strange to hear on TV this far into the year either way.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    ...or a price increase on the new one? Odd.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,543
    Could be that they've got trunk money (manufacturer to dealer cash) on the 2011 models, so they don't need as big of a rebate?

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    If so they're not published on that list from Edmunds.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,543
    Sometimes, they pay it out at a certain date (like 12/31), whether the cars are sold or not...

    If that's the case, it won't show up here at a later time... because it's already been paid...

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That could explain it. If the dealer already collected, they have no real incentive to sell the 2011, either.

    RAV4 sales were up about 1% last month, so it's not like it's been a slow seller.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjYxE2VD7VE&feature=player_embedded
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    edited March 2012
    Although you young 'uns remember the Calais that was a Grand Am clone, this was the predecessor:

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  • loncrayloncray Member Posts: 301
    Is it just me, or does that guy Chapman look like one of the Brothers Gibb? That car though... it's one of the reasons why Oldsmobile was finally put out of their misery a few years ago.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Clever little gimmick:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIGzpi9lCck&feature=player_embedded
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    When I see those, I think "Cutlass Supreme".

    T-tops are cool but I bet they leaked within 6 months - not a great feature for a car where build and material quality could be inconsistent.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMshbuQs5A&feature=player_embedded

    Seems to be the new A class tag line.

    Reminds me of two old GM ones - Chevy's "Heartbeat of America" and "This is the New Generation of Olds".

    Any how, interior looks good, they didn't focus on building to a cost point, it seems. I like most views except the rear three quarters.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    For Chevy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=932f2l_QBP4
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QDh6TXjdyCs

    That one seemed to have potential, but it wasn't well done and thus, Fail.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    edited March 2012
    I don't like the overdone creased sides - but I guess that's the fad now.

    If we get a super high efficiency model of this thing, and it fits someone who is over 5'10", and it drives nicely, it could be tempting.

    Chevy "Office" ad is odd. There should be an "Office Space" themed ad, as that's the reality for many workers in this wonderful climate.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    edited March 2012
    T-tops were a compromise when convertibles disappeared for a while back in the late 1970s. You don't see them anymore. When did T-tops disappear from the automotive landscape? I imagine they haven't been around since about 1987 when the RWD GM A-body coupes had them.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Maybe Camaro/Firebird past then too, I don't know if they made it through 92 though.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Pop's Z28 had a T-top. 1978 IIRC.

    I think they had then well in to the 90s, I remember at one point they even had a spot in the cargo area where you could snap them in a storage area and not slide around.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Chrysler commercial - this one is amusing to me, as I am 99% sure the car where the camera is located is an old MB W123 - door panels and side mirror seem very familiar.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That is interesting. They should have used an old Chrysler, really.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Something vintage and stylish, which old Chryslers often were. If they wanted to make a dig at MB after the failed "merger", they could have had one broken down alongside the road :shades:
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Here's one with an old Chrysler...

    1979 Newport
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    this one is amusing to me, as I am 99% sure the car where the camera is located is an old MB W123 -

    Help we peons out. What is an MB W123? A Mercedes Benz yes, but what year, what model? Maybe use the standard of Lemko on these boards who very clearly identifies GM cars by year and model.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,808
    You have a search engine. Type in W123. It has nothing to do with being a king or a peon.
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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    edited March 2012
    You have a search engine. Type in W123. It has nothing to do with being a king or a peon.

    A condescending remark.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Ok, the middle range MB sedan made from 1976-85, usually a diesel. Still tons of em on the road.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,389
    ou have a search engine. Type in W123. It has nothing to do with being a king or a peon.

    Exactly.
    Although I guess I should refrain from discussing my E36's M42, or my TJ, or the M10 in my E10- oh the horror!!!

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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    Although I guess I should refrain from discussing my E36's M42, or my TJ, or the M10 in my E10

    So, maybe 2 other people reading this thread might know what those acronyms mean.

    Suggest a review of writing guidelines on when explanation of acronyms is appropriate/needed, when not.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    If I mention the M113.980 in my W210 E55 AMG or my old car which is technically a W111.014 220SEB with a M127.982, I bet I could create a seizure of some kind :shades:
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    If I mention the M113.980 in my W210 E55 AMG or my old car which is technically a W111.014 220SEB with a M127.982, I bet I could create a seizure of some kind

    fintail - You are a Mercedes owner and like that brand and know many details, codes, etc. So, a Mercedes board or thread with enthusiasts like yourself would understand what you are talking about. BUT, this is not a Mercedes enthusiast board. The title of it is about Car Commercials.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,135
    edited March 2012
    xrunner2 - the guys were just joking about all the alphanumerics. But 'W123' is tossed around frequently on the Edmunds forums. The benefit is that it describes a model that was produced several years, easier to remember than the specific year range.

    I had to look it up the first time or two...
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,389
    I had to look it up the first time or two...

    You mean you actually had to utilize some personal initiative?

    What a tragedy!!!
    ;)

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited March 2012
    I don't think there is a single curved line in that whole car. Could have been designed with a straight edge!

    Gotta go change the oil on my 2GR-FE and check the AT level on the U151E.

    ;)

    2GR is Toyota's chain-driven 3.5l V6. Non-DI is FE, DI gets the FSE suffix. Predecessors were 3MZ and 1MZ.

    U151E is their 5EAT. Not to be confused with the new 6 speed (U660E).

    We should have a whole thread for these codes.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    My post was in jest, and you're not a host :P

    W123 should be about as well known as "F-body" or "Panther", etc.

    I know there's a commercial for a W204 derivative (C-class), unrealistically chained up, tearing its rear doors off, that I bet can draw some ire. Same for similar cars spinning around in the dust ;)
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    I know there's a commercial for a W204 derivative (C-class), unrealistically chained up, tearing its rear doors off, that I bet can draw some ire.

    Yes, and approval....by 13-16 year-old boys.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    And apparently some older viewers, given the consistently strong sales of the models.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That could be due to pricing...they're loss leaders around here.

    I do see a lot of them, though.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    I don't know if they are particularly good value, unless you get a sweet lease on what will be a base car. A nicely equipped one is still well into the 40s.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    There's a lot of keeping up with the Joneses around me, so I would not be surprised to see a lot of those leases. Put a base model in the garage so they can say they "got a Benz".

    This is why I think the A-class will be a good addition to the lineup. Put more content on the base C and raise the price.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,808
    I managed to combine W123 and 13-16 years old boys in a single video ;)

    ok, here's a real commercial
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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    I managed to combine W123 and 13-16 years old boys in a single video


    kudos to explorer. Actually I take back what I said about 13-16 year old boys and stupid commercials. Some 16 year olds that I know are smarter than to get taken in by these commercials. Make that 10-14 year old boys. That is who Mercedes and others are appealing too with their stupid commercials. 10-14 year olds. Great marketing. Huh?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    MB is having more or less their best sales in history, so yes, I'd call it some mighty fine marketing. The facts speak for themselves.

    Wanna see a dumb commercial? New Acura TL - "aggression in its most elegant form" - when in reality it is neither elegant nor aggressive.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    It's the same in my neighborhood, can't throw a cat without hitting a lease special C/3/A4/IS/G. I suspect they don't cost a lot to make either, the leases can't be allowed to be too much of a loss.

    I think that A vs C plan might be how it has worked in Canada since the B came there about 3 years ago, I think the C is now a bit more expensive there (although no extra content).
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,808
    change your mindset :P
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