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2008 Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan
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I was going to say that the accord weighs less but then the altima weighs about 100lbs less.
The Accord does weigh a good deal less than the new Altima - it was still a compact in 1994 remember.
If he can exceed his mileage numbers in the Accord by 4 MPG, who's to say he can't do it in the Altima?
I add a topic into this room as well. Powertrains
This is my dilemma:
Honda has one 45cyl and of course it may get tweaked but will get added unless honda makes a less fuel efficient 2.5l. Should be coupled with a 5speed auto and 6speed manual like the altima and camry (minus cvt of course in altima)
Honda also has 4 6cyl engines to use:
A 244hp 3lin the current car
a 258hp 3.2l used in current tl,
a 280-290 hp 3.5l used in 07 tl-s and rl
and a 300hp 3.7l used in 07 MDX)
Hondas best and most practical for us would be the 3.2l. Yeah its a little under the passat, camry, & altima, but it is still very fuel efficient. If honda tweaks it to a full 260hp(SAE), combines it with a 6speed auto(sport shift) and 6 speed manual (or developes a new DSG but thats getting rediculous in a midsize "family hauler").
So to sum it up, a 260hp accord sedan with a 6speed auto sounds good to me. Of course they should call the coupe the prelude and give it ATTS (Active torque transfer system) like back in the day and this honda will be a big hit also.
Lets bring up the whole diesel/hybrid (or both) up later. Just hopefully if there is a hybrid, it should be a 4cyl.
-Cj
-Cj
Sounds like what I heard five years ago... Altima is nice, but it's interior is still not up to Honda quality/tactile standards for me. Gotta remember, the heart of the market isn't necessarily after a family car that's sportier (I'll remind ya that Camry is number 1 in sales - and it's no sports car). And yeah, I drive an Accord, but I had no real ties to Honda since this 2006 was my first new car.
You mean they haven't fixed the fire issue with the burning Altimas yet?
The 07 Accord SE (4 cyl) beat out five or six newer designs including Camry to win a comparison test in the Feb 07 issue of the magazine.
Amazing - when you consider this vehicle is in the last year of its cycle.
I'd have to image the '08 Accord will feature
- at least the same horsepower from the two engines;
- at least a 5-speed auto with both engines (6-auto?);
- traction and stability control in the 4-cyl models;
- better mileage for both engines;
- iPod-friendly radios;
- even better interior features!!
So what will the CAR & DRIVER comparison be like next year, when the new '08 Accord goes up against these same cars... that the '07 beat?
My 2 wishes for the '08 Accord: dramatically reduced road noise & improved suspension road shock.
If these two issues were resolved - the Accord would not have any competitors for miles.
I'm not sure Honda will ever address these complaints even though they are the most common (CR agrees).
-an automanual transmission (5 or 6 speed)
-A diesel
-A hybrid with a 4 cyl engine
-more trunk space
-the current tl's 258hp 3.2l v6(same gas mileage)
-and that it would get here soon!!
~*~*~*~HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!~*~*~*~
-Cj
I like BMW's red leather seats in a black car! Especially a 330CI convertible!!
-Cj
HONDA ALREADY HAS THE TECHNOLOGY READY!
-Cj
NOTE: I'M TYPING IN CAPS FOR THE EMPHASIS!
Altima's not killing Accord. I think Nissan is still selling 06 Altima's and some 07 Altima's. The 07 Altima uses a little better interior plastics than the 06. I agree though Honda has catching up to with the Accord on the exterior styling end in my opinion anyway.
You say too spoty for the lovale Accord?Honda can't go so conservative on their styling because Mazda and Nissan have been snatching younger buyers away from Honda in the past few years. Honda went way conservative on the current Accord styling and it killed their sales of the Accord in my opinion. Honda is being smart on snapping onto current exterior styling trends in my opinion.
-Cj
Maybe the Altima should be compared with the Acura TL?
http://www.thecarconnection.com/scrapbook-popup.asp?ScrapbookID=1296&Position=1
And some warm and fuzzy words about what the accord will be like:
"The all-new 2008 Accord will arrive in dealerships this Fall - and while it is too early to disclose many details, I can tell you that it will serve as a clear expression of Honda's clean, safe, and fun brand values.
The 2008 Accord will come to market with the next generation of Honda's Variable Cylinder Management technology for a significant improvement in real world fuel economy.
Additionally, the 2008 Accord also will feature something none of its competitors can boast ... the next application of Honda's Advanced Compatibility Engineering- or ACE - body structure. This means that approximately 90 percent of Honda cars sold in the U.S. will feature this unique, important and industry-leading technology. This is another one of those technologies we hope the entire industry will follow.
Of course, what has put Accord on the 10-best list for more than two decades... is the fact that it has always been fun. And this vehicle is no exception... making the same quantum leap forward that the all new Civic did last year... With Fun in terms of bold new styling... Fun in terms of offering a sporty coupe variant.... And fun in terms of offering the driver a rewarding, engaging, and exhilarating driving experience.
The next generation model promises to elevate the Accord driving experience to an even higher level. Viewed together... the elegant combination of these attributes--along with the refinement, quality and low cost of ownership that defines Accord ... is again what will make it an industry benchmark.
It's therefore our intention to bring the next generation Accord to market as the boldest ... roomiest ... most refined ... and most exhilarating car in the segment. Indeed, a new benchmark.
As we get closer to the launch ... more details will become available. But with a powerful stance, long hood, deeply sculpted lower body, and a fast roofline, we think what you see here today represents a bold new styling direction for the entire Accord
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HONDA ALREADY HAS THE TECHNOLOGY READY!
-Cj
NOTE: I'M TYPING IN CAPS FOR THE EMPHASIS!
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Outside the US Honda sells the Civic, Euro Accord, and CR-V with the CTD-i. Why does Honda keep saying it will bring its diesels to the US within three years. If Honda's new emission technology works as claimed and can meet the US Tier 2 Bin 5 standard they can and should bring a diesel to the US market in 2008. I'll be the first in line to buy an Accord or CR-V with a diesel.
(I'm typing in caps for the emphasis)
And you know this because......
-Loren
No headroom or leg-room in the rear seat, then I am not interested.
While, I like the styling of the Accord coupe, and the potential for it to perform as good, if not better than the Altima Coupe (hope handling is better), if I can't put my parents back there when they visit me on those rare occasions, then the car is a deal breaker.
The main reason I am not considering a G35 Coupe!
Though the premiums are going up in price, I have noticed!
The New Accord, if it is like the show one, will be pretty hot. Hope pricing stays down to earth. They are nice engined, tight assembled, good handling, durable, and sometimes even stylish cars. The competition is not standing still though. There are so many alternatives, but Honda, realizes the heat is on and is responding with product. Styling for 2008 models seems to be on track, so Honda fans may indeed have yet another winner. Looks like Altima is ready to challenge, as is Saturn and even a little company called Ford, with its Fusion. Yeah, I suppose Honda is less concerned about the latter.
-Loren
Um, are you aware that there's an entire model line of base V6 Accords (SE-V6) for around $23k sticker?
Check the prices-paid forum for Accords - nobody is paying over INVOICE now, much less sticker. There is $750 incentive cash on 2007 Accords.
Trust me, dealers ARE budging on prices... more than budging. They're going DOWN in anticipation of the new model.
Other than that I'm really excited to see what the 2008 Accord looks like, and judging from how the current car can still beat the Aura, Optima, and Altima, the new one will probably blow them all away
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I'm surprised at how the Camry finished fifth though, especially being Motor Trend's Car of the Year and all...
Motor Trend's Car of the Year compeition is more rounded, and includes factors such as the new vehicle's significance to the market (which the Camry Hybrid certainly has in droves), as well as value within it's class.
I'm not really arguing, just clearing some things up with these two tests that some people may not realize.
Coincidentally, Camry lost to Aura for the North American Car of the Year award. In fact, it was beated by even Honda Fit which, as we know, has really existed in its current form for six years (and it actually garnered twice as many votes as Camry did).
Also with the cabriolet (4 seat convertibles) sales increasing and the opposite of coupes, honda should make this accord a hard top convertible. With no solara to get toyota's sales up, its perfect for the accord with only the eos and g6 taking sales. Its a good segment for honda. Plus with these good looks, great reliability, and dollar value, honda has this all to itself! If only they would do it...
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