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BTW, I showed the side by side photos of the Edge and MKX to my wife who really wants a MKX. I said "see how they have almost the exact same profile?". She said "So?". She likes the MKX and doesn't care what it shares with the Edge.
Besides, if we wait long enough, those of us that don't want a Ford lookalike will someday have a Lincoln choice too.
Guess you forgot the 2000 Camry and Lexus ES.
Mark
You do have a point that those photos show a similar design theme, but on the street, I don't confuse them from any angle. Again, it may be because they do not share a single piece of sheetmetal, or even the window glass.
But this is a dead issue. MKX will sell well enough to all those people who don't care that it shares its sheetmetal with a Ford. End of debate.
Different body lines, different doors, different glass; You can't say that about another pair we're thinking of...
Ford needs to hire advertisers of the caliber of Lexus' and get the word out about what their cars do right. Tout the first year reliability. Tout the dealership experience at Lincoln. Tout the improved reliability as reported by CR. Tout the user-friendly SatNav interface. Tout the HP on regular, not premium, gas. Then sharing platforms won't matter for Ford, either.
Again, for those of you who do not care that the Lincoln and the Ford share the exact same body panels, it is not a problem. But that cost cutting may be part of why Toyota, Honda, VW/Audi, and even GM are doing better than Ford these days.
Just saw that Ford is predicting another 13% drop in sales for April. Only Ford continues to recycle the same sheet metal among so many different models. And even Ford is planning to stop doing it, so it must not be working all that well for them.
The MKX is in short supply right now. Good for Ford, though it is not beginning to offset all the other lost sales. I hope they have a redesign in the works for when MKX sales level off. Planning ahead will serve them better too.
You're right. I shouldn't have used the word "platform" (that's what comes from posting while enjoying a nice Shiraz). I think it has a specific meaning, and I'm speaking in more general terms than that.
Since I'm not omniscient and can't speak for anyone but me, what follows is what's important to me only. Shared sheetmetal and glass isn't important; that's exterior superficiality. Important differentiation comes from what's going on inside: engine, drivetrain, gadgets, interior design. A luxury model should offer things absolutely not available on its more plebeian stablemates. Maybe the MKX does. It's supposed to have a quieter ride. But, I haven't researched the Edge and MKX side-by-side.
As an aside, one thing that turned me off of early Lexuses was sitting in a Lexus and seeing the same transmission gearshift, same turn signal / wiper control, same cruise control, etc., as in the Toyota. I didn't see or feel enough differentiation to make the Lexus worth the extra money.
Engine and drivetrain and panoramic roof are all the same on the Edge and MKX. The MKX arguably doesn't have as "cheap" interior trim as the Edge, but both of them need to spruce that up.
I don't care if the gearshift is the same, if it is the expensive model that forms the basis for it. For example, the gearshift in a VW Jetta is lifted from an Audi A8. VW/Audi has set a standard for its luxury rides and then blew everyone away by putting that same switchgear in a Rabbit. It is why even with the awful exchange rate (from the European perspective), VW can sell "economy" cars here.
People will pay 10 to 20% more than a comparable car, because the look and feel and amenities of the interior mimic a much more expensive car. VW sales are looking good again, and the only reason they encountered trouble in recent years is because, like Ford, they let their model cycles get too long.
If Ford ever figures that out, they will clean up.
Turnoff for me is that in Lexus' case, it was the Lexus using the Toyota switchgear, not the other way around.
VW sales are looking good again, and the only reason they encountered trouble in recent years is because, like Ford, they let their model cycles get too long.
If Ford ever figures that out, they will clean up.
If being the operable term, here.
Can anyone comment on the quality of the stereo included in the base model. I'm curious if this includes a speaker above the center console, as is included in the THX model.
Ultimate is no brainer. Also because the Vista Roof is what makes the car unique in the catagory and because its a limited commodity, most dealers order as many Elites as they can get built.
Mark.
I got a good deal. Apparently there is a limited supply of the navigation component, so my dealer had to take three units that had the ultimate package plus vista roof.
I take delivery late next week.
I'm a Big Sister in Big Brother Big Sister organization and even my "Little" (10 yr. old boy) gave me a high five and said I did good. Quite an endorsement for sure.
We have both the Ultimate and Elite packages. It was all that was available since we wanted the Nav and sunroof. The upgraded stereo sounds great with the installed Sirius, but I am not sure if it is worth adding if you can find one without it.
My wife just hit 5000 miles on the truck and is so far extremely happy with her purchase.
Exterior Style & Design: we continue to collect positive comments. Yesterday it was a church friend who, as we pulled in the parking lot and got out, remarked "that's a very nice vehicle you are driving, it's gorgeous." I'm waiting on (hoping for!!) the out-of-the-blue question or comment while refueling.
Instrument Cluster: the cluster is the standard Ford two-large-gauge-and-two-small-gauge model, but the graphics and fonts are the best execution I've seen. It is very clean, non-fussy, and classy looking.
Chrome Clad Wheels: I am generally not a fan of chrome wheels, but since we have a Ultimate/Elite package model, we got them (if I would have ordered it special, I would have done the chrome wheel delete). I usually research vehicles extensively but I will admit I wasn't familiar with these new style wheels. They are best described as a chrome face fused to an alloy wheel--- search forum posts for a better explanation. It is kind of strange to be cleaning them and feeling the mating of the two surfaces. I guess I am in a wait-and-see mode right now.
Overall very pleased. More comments to follow if you are interested.
Thanks, brendaboo. Is that in town, highway, or both?
No glare at all from charcoal dash pad.
That said, I wish I could see a reason to buy one - the silly D-L transmission non-controller is a permanent turn off to me.
and I think the average speed is 38 mph.
On rare occasions I've hit the Winter mode in my Volvo to start out in a lower gear. Other than that I've never had to shift out of D, so maybe I don't make the best use of the transmission I have. I don't care if I can shift from D to something other than a generic L. If I want to shift for myself, I'll buy a true stick.
I do like the look of the MKX, front and back end, though I wish Lincoln had a common design theme. For the most part I like the interior - it's clean and doesn't have that Japanese boom box look of the Acuras. I like the step-in height, and the car offers everything I would like in our next vehicle, except for a cargo cover. The only reason I wouldn't add it to the list of potential cars now is the lack of one. Funny what's important to some people, huh.
Speaking of Acura, we generally liked the MDX but found it to be pricey, and it felt kind of like 'technology for technology's sake.' I had a hard time putting my finger on my thoughts about the interior-- maybe 'boom box' is a good descriptor (in other words, stylish to the point of being busy). Just my opinion.
But, y'all drop into the 50s every now and then, don't you? Heated rear seats would be nice even at that bone-chilling temp! :P
My LS doesn't have heated seats, and believe me, getting into the car on a winter morning after it's been sitting outside can be a shock. Heated seats are a must for the next car, and that's a huge plus for the MKX.
Why? It's still less expensive and drives better.