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There seems to be a small, yet significant percentage of us Santa Fe owners experiencing this kind of poor mileage.
The Santa is perfect in every other way. I haven't had any problems after 12,000 plus miles.
Are there any FWD Santa Fe's experincing low miles per gallon.
Any ideas? Did anyone see it happen in their car?
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
for local traffic: ~17
for highway: 22~23
Does specific gasoline has anything to do with this? I use shell all the time.
Well, I've had the Santa Fe for 3 1/2 months now but only have 2000 miles on it. The manual says to change the oil at 6000 miles(?) Should I wait till it gets to 6K or should I change it at the 3 months interval like I do with all of my other cars? I have always put a lot of miles during the first 3 months of my cars until my santa fe since this is the car my wife drives for getting around town with the kids. If I wait until the SF gets to 6K it might be 6 more months down the road before it hits that. So I am stumped.
Also what has been the experiences of those who have had their Santa Fe oil changed at a Jiffy Lube or other non dealer places. Is the filter easy to get at. I understand there is cover that needs to be removed to get to the filter am I correct? Thanks for your replies?
Bill
About the oil change, only AWD Santa Fes come with the skid plate, which needs to be removed to get to the oil filter from the bottom if it doesn't have the filter access panel.
As of today, they put in a new 'valve body' (I think that's what they called it) but it is still acting weird - ie., a very hard upshift from 3rd to 4th and once it would not shift out of second until I put it in manual mode. This time the 'CHECK' light did not come on.
Has anyone had a similar experience??
Hyundaima - the hard upshift occurs every time but some are worse than others.
This is the first real problem I've had in the year and 11k miles since I bought it.
claywaterfill: What do I think? I think CR's reputation just went down a notch. I understand when Motor Trend, Road & Track, Car & Driver overlook the obvious advantages the SF has over the Escape et al because Hyundai doesn't buy as many ad pages as Ford and the rest but I expect more from CR.
2% or less is much better than average, full red dot
2% ~ 5% is better than average, half red dot
5% ~ 9.3% is average, open circle
9.3% ~ 14.8% is below average, half black circle
More than 14.8% is a full black circle
This year the 'average' new car has 11 areas solid red, 2.0% or less problems reported, and 3 areas half red, 2.0 to 5.0% problems reported after one year, exactly as Claywaterfill states for the Santa Fe above. Maybe at mid-year the 'average' new car now rates higher, say 12 solid red and 2 half solid red, causing Santa Fe to slip just under average.
Consumer Reports should change their baseline. In April, better than average is 12 and 2, average is 11 and 3, below average is 10 and 4. The line is too thin! But as years go by, the report reveals much. A 1993 GMC Jimmy is solid black in 11 areas!!. A 1999 Elantra is above average at one year old but below average at two years old. (Overall it's ok in most areas but SOLID black on Transmission.)
From Consumer Reports... "Reliability information is based on readers responses covering more than 500,000 vehicles." .... It's truly an excellent chart because YOU, the owners, create it by responding the their questionnaires.
Consumer Reports ratings on test-drive is another area completely. Edmunds rates the XTerra high in the last two tests on SUVs but Consumer Reports places it just above the Sportage, at the bottom. So I read Edmunds comparison tests closely to find out why this SUV winner should be dropped from my short list. The XTerra is so loud on the street one editor here suggests cranking the radio to drown sounds. hmmm. Another reports the Escape rattles and vibrates from bow to stern off-road. ouch!! That doesn't qualify either as 'best'
The Santa Fe is reported to have excellent road manners. It's quiet but doesn't handle corners or zoom like the Escape. It does dirt without complaint but doesn't climb like XTerra or Liberty. Hey I can live with that. And the Santa Fe as the most beautiful SUV out there!! Edmunds doesn't agree with me on that point. Some editors found Santa Fe a little numb. How do you owners feel about Santa Fe's driving manners. Is it boring? Numb? Anyone take theirs off-road?
Hyundai Terracan V6 3.5
http://bbs1.adwars.com/read.php?table=mildbreeze&no=199
Ssang-yong Rexton I6 3.2
http://bbs1.adwars.com/read.php?table=mildbreeze&no=198
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Hyundai Santa-Fe
http://bbs1.adwars.com/read.php?table=mildbreeze&no=202
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Also, I don't know how Consumer Reports determines who gets sent a survey, but they sure can't report what they don't get. One of your post implies that CR is at fault for reporting only what they are told.
As I asked, what do you suggest is a good source for checking on a car's quality and reliability?
I think that the Consumer Reports survey should be sent to every subscriber AND included in an issue distributed to newsstands. To encourage participation, prizes should be awarded, but to keep things on the up and up, VINs should have to be provided.
Take the Hyundai Santa Fe, the subject of this thread, for example. There is no reliability information on it on Carpoint, but there is initial quality/reliability information on it through Consumer Reports and JD Powers.
Also, AIS says they get 250,000 calls a year from service techs. Compare that to the 500,000 vehicles that someone said Consumer Reports receives responses on. Also, think about the fact that some of these calls that AIS get could be on the same vehicle, over and over while Consumer Reports is reporting on 500,000 DIFFERENT vehicles.
Yes, Carpoint and AIS gives you a more detailed breakdown than Consumer Reports and JD Powers, but I think that is due more to the medium and not necessarily due to the quality of information each receives.
You make a good point!
I thought that Consumer Reports did testing but do rely on consumer input on some reliability issues.
On the other hand, I doubt if CR could have survived and thrived all these years if the information they published were itself not reliable. Perhaps CR readers tend to be more discerning than the "average consumer."
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Do we get a sneak preview? What will you tell them?
tidester
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"Once the laughing stock of automobiles, Hyundai is not only back, it is giving Ford and GM some worries about how many customers it will lose to Hyundai and Kia over the next decade. Remember, it was Detroit that thought Volkswagen wouldn't go anywhere back in 1960."
Thanks!!!