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I have owned several SUVs (Blazer, Explorer, and Cherokee). This is the best so far! I amazed that it was so inexpensive, considering all of its options.
With regards to the master cylinder, he actually took a master cylinder out of an LX to replace the one in my GLS. The problem had been with an uneven resistance when pressing the brake pedal, a kind of "notchy" feel. The pedal still feels rather flat although it does not seem to affect the vehicle's ability to stop. The dealer was totally successful in stopping an annoying squeak in the driver's side window (Hooray!). If you would like, you can email me at drdan3@hotmail.com for details about this unfolding drama... and to let me know of any progress on your side.
Rick
Here are the test results:
NHTSA NCAP:
Four stars driver
Five stars passenger
NHTSA SINCAP:
Five stars driver
Five stars rear passenger
IIHS offset test:
Acceptable
whatsssssssssss upppppppppppp!.
I'd say my Santa fe is also great! I am very pleased with it.
I don't think we will get much use of the AC here in the winter months though (other than dehumidifying occasionally), as the temp has dropped to below freezing! I will get to see how the Santa Fe handles the cold weather and snow!
Take care and have a good trip.
Jeff
I will be taking the car in to the service department in two days and let them tackle it. I will post the results just in case this happens to anyone else. Other than that, so far, I am very pleased with the SUV and knowing that owners of other makes of SUVs have paid much more than I paid for my Santa Fe is a very good feeling.
Nestor
I am wondering what a fair price for this vehicle would be? Any first hand knowledge would be appreciated.
Where did you get your crash test info? Is there a publication or website we can refer to?
Thanks....skouly
I love it so far, no problems whatsoever except can someone please tell me why when I set the fan to feet/defrost position, the A/C kicks in????
http://www.guruma.co.kr/Â÷·®Á¤º¸/santafe/Ãæµ¹¾ÈÀü.htm
All the data on that page are from the company catalog.
Rick
Thanks for the source web page. However, I can't read Korean, so I can't get any useful info from the site regarding Santa Fe crash test results.
The information available from this dealership was very limited, they had a brochure that really didnt have any valuable info, in fact they did not even know what models were available and or features.
I have since called them back and asked them to try and locate an LX/AWD. I also told them I did not want their Ziebart package and had a concern with paying sticker. As I have looked at many sites and dealerships there seems to be some of these models available. It's tough as only a small portion list their inventory on the internet. I have also tried some of the quick quote site only to find their were no dealerships participating in my area.
Has anyone else run into these problems in locating one? Also I am quite interested in hearing how the vibration at 60 mph gets resolved.
Any comments of suggestions would be appreciated
-Size - much wider and roomier but not too big (still 13" shorter than an 4-dr Explorer)
-V-6 vs 4 banger
-Standard SF wheels look like RAV4 upgrades
-Spare Tire is under the vehicle and not hung on the back and obstructing your view.
-The LX has 4 wheel discs, not drums on the rear (didn't want/get ABS which I think you need for rear discs on the RAV - if at all)
-I wasn't forced to buy the moonroof ($800) I didn't want because of the way Toyota 'packages' their cars.
-The 5" longer (103" vs 98")wheelbase makes for a smoother ride - dare I say 'car like'?
-4 speed auto with the manual mode is superb!
-Check out the 'lighted' visor mirror(s) compared
to the cheesy RAV's. (great map lights too)
-Flip up tail-gate window (don't need to open the whole door)
-Heated rear view mirror's
-Ability to turn on/off the lumbar support
-Distinctive styling - doesn't look like all the others!
-Heated seat/auto-dimming rear view mirror upgrade I got are worth the little extra cost.
-Leather seats/steering wheel/gearshift is high quality - better than RAV's I believe.
-Rear seat fold-down arm rest
-Very handy '2'-trip odometers
-THE WARRANTY
(The downside is the brochure says I/we should have gotten a cassette player but didn't (refer to the fine print in the back)
I know that I probably forgot a couple things and some others are subjective but the bottom line is this vehicle is way ahead of the competition in a lot of ways besides the price. Another thing, I don't agree with the slams made against the Santa Fe regarding its acceleration. It is more than adequate and besides, if you wanted neck jarring acceleration, you should have bought a Vette! (As far as the Mazda Tribute is concerned) - Yes, the Tribute is quicker but look at the negatives: Recalls, chintzy interior (and THOSE Mattel looking/feeling interior door handles), jarring ride, stupid looking 3 ft long(seemingly) gearshift. Besides, I'd rather have the improved MPG than having more HP than I need 99% of the time.
If any of you live in the So. Cal. area, check out Todey (pronounced 'Toddy') Hyundai in Oxnard and get ahold of Stuart. Not only will you get a good deal, he's even funny.
By the way, from some of the questions I've seen, I think some of you folks might want to read the manual! (especially the part about not exceeding 55 for the first 1200 miles...I'm not sure THAT'S possible in freeway dependent Calif.)
Good luck with your SF's...
Also, it looks like the interior bike-rack isn't available yet...they back-ordered mine.
I know if I look hard enough I will find some in New Jersey too, I did see some Santa Fe's if Gaithersburg,Maryland. (Fitzgerald Auto Mall-for sticker). The only concern I have in buying one from a dealer outside my area is when I take it in for warranty repair.....
Good luck with your trip to NJ and your new Santa Fe. Let everyone know how it works out for you....
By the way - I have not seen any advertsing (TV, print, or otherwise) concerning the Santa Fe...
The dealer where I bought mine charged NOTHING else other than above! I actually thought I didn't get as good of a deal as I'd like to but after reading the new posts here each and every day, I am feeling a lot better about my deal due to the fact that many other dealers are charging these "extra" fees on top of the sticker...
If it were me, I would NOT pay anything higher than the official sticker price (not including dealer markup/add-ons)... After driving our Santa Fe for almost 3 weeks now, I think that it is definately worth the sticker price and no more!!! If you pay or paid sticker, don't feel bad. You've got a great vehicle to show for it!
MrTwix
I had an Elantra with the "normal" Elantra fuel gauge where the idiot light would come on with 4-5 gallons left in the tank. Maybe Santa Fe is the same???
I called the dealer - was told the exact model I wanted had just come in - so I went to the dealer to purchase. When I got there - it was already sold. Other dealers (not internet dealers) informed the internet dealer it already had a deposit on it (weeks ago). Not to worry - they'll find me my Santa Fe. In the meantime - the dealer jots down some numbers & they do not add up to $350 over invoice. That's where the $579 Advertising Fee comes in. They showed me some COPY of an invoice and my dealer disappears. All these other dealers keep coming up to me asking questions - I ask them what's this $570 Adv. fee - they say they had to pay it so you have to pay it. BULL! This invoice had two columns - Dealer invoice column & MSRP column. The MSRP column does not have this fee in it - only the invoice column. This equals about $360 under sticker now - not $350 over invoice. By the way - I haven't heard from them since. Their word means nothing - their selling the cars at price & above for now. So much for the no haggling way to buy a car.
Other stuff there is not about crash test result. You're not missing anything.
"superstorm"... I am also from Oklahoma although I now live in Missouri. I would not get a 4WD model (unless you like/or need to go offroad)... Plus the 4WD model also lowers your gas mileage and raises your insurance premium...
Comment on "darryl10" (#514) - If you (any new car owner) are like me, you will drive a new car until you can't drive it any more... Thus, I am not particularly concerned with resale value as I don't trade (or buy outright) a new car very often (about every 10 years)... If my Santa Fe can last 10 years (which is how long I plan on keeping it), then I will be extremely pleased. I would probably give it to one of my kids to drive and go buy me the 2011 Santa Fe...
MrTwix
It seems to me that both these features are pretty standard these days and why Hyundai omitted them I don’t know.
Even Edmunds talks about paying the Advertising fee (this is where my selective research title comes in) - they say something about 1.5% which is a little over $300 for most of us. However, the fact is, the dealer paid whatever the invoice says and, although it's negotiable, if people are lined up to buy the thing then how much do you think they're going to knock off the price?
IMO, if you get a high-demand and popular vehicle like the Santa Fe at or (hopefully) below MSRP then you did pretty good! It's actually a good deal AT MSRP and we all know it but money's-money so the less the better!
To darryl10: I can only assume you're joking about buying a minivan unless you get awd, right?
If not, I will give two quick reasons of the 50 I can think of (and probably everyone else who read your comments)- cool looks (NO minivan looks cool)and the Hyundai warranty (remember that?)
If someone likes the SF but doesn't need awd then why pay extra when you don't need it? Also, on the highway, the awd gets about 50 miles less on a tank of gas and, due to its extra weight, accelerates slower and doesn't handle as well.
Also, I hope you don't plan on doing any real off-roading in your SF (read the manual, it says not to).
I agree with all of you that got awd that live where it snows a lot (I would have too...but it NEVER snows where I live so I didn't) but if you think you're going to be doing anything close to real off-roading without a low-range transfer case you're in for a surprise. It wasn't intended to be a hard core 4x4 and if you bought it for that purpose...well, you screwed up.
The bottom line is that we all have different needs and priorities and it's a little foolish to assume you know what's best for everyone else.
Besides, if you're like me and drive a car forever (my current one is 14 years old & 257k miles), I doubt the market value between awd & fwd is going to mean much - not to mention the $$ I've saved in gas costs over the years.
And HUNTER36 - if your comment was meant for me - I'm well aware of what Dealer Cost & MSRP is. Also aware of the chance of 1.5% markup on adv. fees, markups just because, copies of invoices instead of the real thing, dealer holdbacks, dealer incentives, etc..
What are you - a dealer? I consider myself a smart shopper. I refuse to pay sticker for any car. The fact is - they quoted me one price & offered me another. They can put anything in that advertising fee section & they did. They would still be making a nice profit without that fee. They're being greedy while they still can.