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It is unfortunate that even though diesel costs more per gallon, that people still lack the ability to use the calculator to get the favorable result.
Sam
But you don't even have to go back that far in time - plenty of horror stories in the Who is Happy with their Jeep Liberty CRD? discussion.
What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car? is one place where you'll find like-minded fans (not all of us there are fans though ).
Sam
Here's the first post in the series (if you go back, you'll see a lot of his posts about his enjoyment of the SUV and his maintenance work).
winter51, "Jeep Liberty Diesel" #11074, 2 Dec 2010 4:14 am
Let me know if you want more examples; my skimming over the years indicates that the CRD engine isn't any more bulletproof than a typical gasser.
Do you still get that $750 tax rebate?
They have only 5.
They have 59 Prius starting at $23,459. Those will sell quickly with current gas prices, but you gotta wonder if Toyota will have enough supply to replace them.
No thanks, that ought to do it.
I think that using the term CRD is doing a disservice to other CR diesels, when referring to the VM Motori. Either it is a bad engine in that defective parts (con rods) made their way into them, or Chrysler painted it with one or two too many strokes with the cheap brush.
It is no wonder some people are shy to trust a diesel in this country when we have the likes of GM and Chrysler rowing the oil boat backwards for all they're worth.
Sam
I wonder if Mitsubishi didn't have an appropriate engine for the Grand Cherokee? I'm sure they would have for the Liberty though. Perhaps Chrysler has no shared interest with Mitsubishi any longer.
But in defense of the VM Motori, I read a post there about someone deciding to finally get the thermostat replaced. The onslaught of cold weather and no heater was probably the only reason. I got the impression it had been stuck open for quite some time. Engines aren't designed to run at 100º F. But on the other hand, stuck open thermostats were another common issue. We will never know if this was due to Chrysler's finishing touches or VM design.
Sam
Another common theme and is very discouraging, so much so I might pursue a new/used 08 or earlier car, is that in practically all the new cars I have checked out lately, all had active head restraints that are way too aggressively tilted forward for anyone who sits with a fairly upright seat back. This trait makes no discernment between North American badged, Japanese, Korean or German in the cars I have sat in so far. The Jetta, Cruze and Sorento seemed to be the least intrusive even though it still is too far forward. I think we are going to start seeing crash statistics with worse whiplash results due to these being too aggressively designed, because people are turning them around backwards, thereby dodging their effectiveness and of course being far worse than the old style.
But getting back to my cruise control question I was going to ask you guys. Since all new cars are drive by wire now, is there a place under the hood that still uses a cable mechanism somewhere that eventually gets results at a throttle body that you could install an aftermarket cruise control? The type I am wondering about, has to be able to hook onto the throttle linkage somewhere and I think that to try to do it under the dash at the pedal itself will be too hard and complicated. Any thoughts on this?
Sam
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
Name the first thing that comes ta yer mind negative about the new world order Ford Fiesta. Do y'all like this mustard-ee color, for instance?
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Sam, (being a bit picky).
As for that particular color, it's interesting. Color is all a matter of taste. Buy what you like.
It's more metallic looking in person? Interesting, Captain Kirk.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
They did replace the whole shebang and gave her a 100k mile warranty on it.
Other than that,Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
Dunno about a Yaris hybrid - Toyota will have a Prius C slotted below the regular Prius, though it may be loosely based on the Yaris platform.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I rented one, and was favorably impressed.
There is no steering or road feel, the ride is that of a larger car, handling isn't very good, and it feels very slow (and I believe it has been proven to actually BE quite slow, although the only fast subcompacts are the Fit and the Mini). OTOH it has the nicest interior and the best features list of any of the subs right now, and it is the quietest at speed.
Fiesta would be about third on my list right now, with the Mazda2 and the Fit ahead of it. I have great hopes for the Abarth coming this Christmas, and I wonder if Toyota will make any effort in its redesign of the Yaris, also coming this fall. Early reports from Japan where the Yaris is about to go on sale are that the car is substantially improved.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I'm also anxious to see the '12 Yaris.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
"decent Trabant" = oxymoron
A good friend of mine is from Pakistan and he actually says that an 'ox-cart' is better than the Aveo!!! It's faster, more reliable and may even smell better!?
As for the 2012 Chevrolet Sonic, by most accounts (C&D, MT, Automobile, AutoWeek, among others) it is shows a lot of promise! It will come in 4-door sedan and 5-door hatchback bodystyles and the 5-door looks really sharp! The only competitor that looks almost as good is the 2012 Accent 5-door, but the Sonic should be more fun to drive.
The Sonic will borrow both engines from the Cruze- a 1.8L non-turbo I-4 and a 1.4L turbo I-4 both making 138hp. The 1.8L has a 5-speed MT standard, the 1.4L has a 6-speed manual and a 6-speed automatic is optional with either. The Sonic weighs more than 400lbs LESS than the Cruze, so it could be THE performer of the subcompact class with sub-8.0sec 0-60 times and 40mpg or better highway mileage.
Chevy was wise to lose the Aveo name, in a relatively short lifespan (2004-2011) it has become synonymous with CRAP! At least they got over the habit of reviving 'nostalgic' old names, otherwise it might have been the new Vega instead of Sonic!
"There is no justification for keeping a car with that low a volume," said Dan Johnston, spokesman for Volvo Cars of North America. "Americans haven't learned to love small cars."
Discontinued: Volvo S40 and V50 (Straightline)
Meanwhile IL gets some seat time in a Chevy Sonic.
It would be a big mistake for Volvo not to replace the S40 with a car smaller than the S60.
More on topic, it would be a hoot to see what an S20 might look like, with Mini Cooper pricing. Give it a Volvo interior, and I would be interested.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Nothing wrong with us, Americans just don't want small cars :shades:
I took a road trip from DC to NYC in a V50 turbo wagon, and it was loud and uncomfortable. I was in the back seat and arrived pretty fatigued.
I feel like that Volvo should have been a Focus, which is what it was underneath. At Focus prices, no complaints.
It's a lot like how people complain about GM's not having small cars. My response is... why bother? LET the other car companies waste the resources on cars that make them $300 at most per vehicle.
Nobody has brand loyalty any more. Every car purchase is like a computer purchase. You shop for the best deal. And most Americans simply don't like small, cheap cars.
I think you're about right there. Having travelled in a V50 even the front seats aren't what I would class as "Volvo". That was a large part of the reason I bought an '06 S60 rather than a same-year, or later, V50, (V70 was bigger than I really needed). The new S60 has continued the proper "Volvo" approach to seating. I can't see USA without the S40 and V50 as being a great loss to you. Would be a different story here in Europe, though, as they do enjoy a certain healthy niche even though the Focus is arguably a better car..............but doesn't have the badge. Of course, if the Focus wore BMW badges then demand would outstrip supply by quite a margin. Lots of entry-level BMW 1-series about, (de-badging is generally a giveaway), and badge snobbery is alive and well in dear Olde England. Sad but true.
O.K., rambling off topic. Sorry.
hbannis, "How Much Is Brand Legacy Worth To You?" #67, 1 Jan 2011 12:07 pm
Okay, more on the subcompact topic, the Sonic starts at $14,495. (link)
Also, a small car that doesn't have a torsion beam suspension.Look how long it took Ford and GM to bring theirs across the pond models here.
I suggest you go on to some UK and European sites ie; Auto Express I'd pay extra for a TCDI engine , sunroof muli heated leather seats, and a car with a multilink suspension(except for the Mini as it's a lemon telling a
71 year old senior citizen that their tranny is blown at 5 k because they don't know how to shift.Why, not a luxury small car with an arm rest, alloys,lumbar support and Bluetooth and stuts front@ back. I wish Edmunds would on their reviews of vehicles would tell the people what they are really getting. I just answered a lady who wanted to know why her new Fiesta ,when it hits a bump is so jarring compared to her Toyata pick up. Also, how come there is so much road noise? I think Edmunds ought to help people more when doing car evaluations.27k for a Focus? I think not you can get an Audi A3 for 3k more.
Those features cost money. In the $27k-ish range for a Focus, you can build a Titanium hatchback with DCT, moonroof, leather, SYNC, heated seats/mirrors, rain-sensing wipers, Handling Pkg, the self-parallel park thing, etc. That A3 is just a Golf in drag, and is not as well equipped. Europeans are already used to paying premium money for a premium hatch; the US will still take some time to come around.
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
No Korean car will be on my payroll..Volvo has much more class, however, wouldn't spend any money on one..
Volvo is not into tiny cheap wheels...
"The 2012 Hyundai Accent has become a real car. It's not a cheerless subcompact for the worker bee who can't afford anything better. Rather, this five-door hatchback, along with its sedan companion, is the kind of car that inspires said bee to get out and see the country when he's not working."
2012 Hyundai Accent First Drive
I suspect the Kia counterpart will be less overstyled.