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All I can say is if I'm driving to Moab, or any other wheeling location, I'll take the FJ. JEEP people usually have a problem with their egos. And I'm glad that at least I know the comfort of travel in my "FJC". Oh yeah 260h.p. vs. 202h.p. BYE BYE.
That being said I guess if you rock crawl all day, well then it's Jeep. But if you commute like most and like to go a distance to go wheeling it's my FJC hands down.
THANK GOD FOR FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!
B.T.Y. Thank you for your service to country. HUAH!
Before ordering ours, the dealer had a JKU Rubicon on the lot that a FJ owner kept taking for days for test drives. We didn't buy it from under him after he brought it back a second time. Third time out, he bought it.
Never drove the FJ, needed four real doors like better_half's H3. Just spent yesterday driving hers all day and loved it. Then jumped in the Rubicon for a late catfish dinner. Still love the wrangler.
I'm just amused by some of the arguments and comparisons in this whole discussion - a bit over the top. It's exactly the same as the never-ending Mac vs PC war. If I lived in a bubble, I might fall onto one side or the other, but I live in the real world where there's no single correct answer, no black and white, just shades of grays. Both Wranglers and FJs have pros and cons, but in varying degrees depending on your needs and wants. A Wrangler "pro" to person A might be a "con" to person B. An FJ may be able to do something a Wrangler can't, but in an interested buyer doesn't care about that ability to begin with, why even make that feature an argument?
All that being said, I love my Wranger for both off-road and also enjoy it as my daily driver. But I've been in a friend's FJ and liked it, too. Guess I'm just not a diehard fanboy at heart.
There is a reason why jeep has best in-class... Well... Everything. And also why they have the largest back-up of after market parts. Cuz they are worth it. An FJ is just a foreign version of the Cherokee. U can't compare one with my wrangler also considering the price difference. My buddy has one. It's not bad, but it's not a true off road vehicle in my opinion. As the name says it is a cruiser. And it is more comfortable driving on the road. But i like fun over a small amount more of comfort. And my jeep has a CAI and will blow an FJ away with a 0-60 time of 4.2 seconds. V-6 mustangs have lost to it. Also, my jeep breaks down into a fully convertible SUV in like 10 mins doing it alone. Plus i have the 6-Speed manual.It's just too easy to odd road in an automatic. Oh, and not to mention how fun it is to slide around a slightly wet road when u shut off the stability controlls.... I have much fun sliding it and drifting it lol. I just learned how to do a 180 then spam it in reverse and keep going. Never had a problem with earlier models breaking down. And I beat them to death. So I will stick with my wrangler. Cuz there ain't nothing like a jeep.
So that proves nothing.
I have 3 Jeeps and love them all. A 2000 GC with 201K (No problems)
A 1991 Cherokee with 225K no problems and a 1998 Wrangler Sport with 140K no problems. Two have the 4L and the GC has the 4.7
But the fact that they fought in WWII doesn't make them better.
What do you think Toyota and mitsubishi were building between 1935 and 1945?
As far as making fun of Toyota not having as many recalls as american cars, well, Toyota just doesn't tell their customers until too many of them get killed. Until then they just ignore the problem or pretend there is none.
They are now paying a great price for that attitude.
That being said, Toyota does build good cars, so do the americans (now)
Anyway the point was IMO FJ has an all around better setup than the Wrangler for the price. I don't know about the 2012 model, except the Pentastar engines were rumored to be HECHO EN MEXICO. Good Luck jerald13. Oh ....yeah alot of us FJ owners feel the same way as you do F. T.he W.rangler :lemon: By the way NONE OF YOUR JEEPS SERVED IN WW2. They had 4 cylinder flathead engines and most were built by, here's the BOMB,( FORD and WILLYS) NOT CHRYSLER /GET REAL!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep
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