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Stupid commercial.
Well, possibly!
Really though it's just quite clever advertising. In the same way that the hair restoration ads always show the 'after' guy with an attractive woman on his arm, these 'Hyundai vs...' ads show and tell the potential Hyundai owner what he want to see and hear.
He'll have the virtual equivalent of a high-line vehicle at a price he can afford. Of course, deep down he probably realizes it's not true (hopefully), but it's what he wants to hear and if he see the ads enough he'll talk himself into believing it.........and it's not something that any of Hyundai's competitors are telling him that their vehicle can do.
Advertising has always been more successful at selling the sizzle than the steak.
also edited tundra videos:
http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/minisite/commercial/index.html
garden variety Ford, GM, Dodge truck...............
What is used is a electronic (brake) wheel slippage detection device that engages the brake on the wheel
that has no traction. Sort of like traction control !
Sort of odd in a truck !!!!!!!!!!
Here is a description from another forum:
The Auto LSD achieves the equivalent functions of an LSD (Limited Slip Differential) through the use of a traction control system. For this reason, the contents of brake control are the same between Auto LSD and
TRAC. When the driver presses the Auto LSD switch, this system achieves the LSD effect by regulating the hydraulic pressure that acts on the drive wheels and controlling the engine output in accordance with
the amount of pedal effort applied on the accelerator.
TRAC enhances the startoff performance of the vehicle during low-resistance surface conditions, such as snow or mud, by restricting the acceleration effort during a startoff, in order to prevent the wheels from spinning.
Debates are flying on some truck forums slamming the 07
tundra for this folly...............
I have to wonder how many Land Rovers ever get off the road (and parking on someones lawn doesn't count).
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I agree. Why are so many people getting all bent out of shape with poor little ole Hyundai. Could it be they might have value beyond their cost (although not to be confused with the cars they are comparing themselves to).
Of course with their old reputation who would want one of these anyhoo? :surprise: Oh, that's me, I have 2 of those "throw-aways". They ain't bad but they ain't Land Rovers either.
Like I said, just "throw-aways".
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
As you can see here it is working.
Yea, but I bet you now have a lot of money to throw away elsewhere.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Whose countin...
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Hyundais are great buys new because you can buy them cheap. They are great buys used too (or even can be had as free gifts apparently) because you can get them cheap from people who don't believe they should have good resale value. On the other hand, if you buy one new for cheap, you can still resell it for a lot if you find one of the growing number of people who realize they actually are good cars and great values as used cars too. A buyer looking for good value in a used car should not ignore used Hyundais.
(I'm paraphrasing not having it in front of me.) I'm taking for granted that he is not on Hyundai's payroll.
I think Hyundai is pretty serious in comparing its products to the more established leaders in some of the ads it runs. The Azera against an LS470 is stretching it a bit though. Still, you do get a LOT for your money if you decide on a Hyundai.
Don’t worry I won’t be throwing them away anytime soon. I usually keep my cars for at least 7 or 8 years. However, I won’t let friendship (even an Edmund’s buddy) get in the way of business if you are really that interested. (see below)
A buyer looking for good value in a used car should not ignore used Hyundais.
Since you seem to have at least a passing interest, what is your OTD offer for either of these?
(1) my 2005 XG350 with 9874 miles OR,
(2) Mrs. jmonroe’s 2006 Sonata LX with 4764 miles
Do I have to say both of these cars are in perfect condition? :surprise:
Heck, if I could
unloadsell both of these, I might have enough for the taxes and F&I upsales on a Mercedes or a Land Rover. Gee, I’m startin to get excited now. Finally, I might get some respect.jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Will you deliver them to me?
Since the top of your head isn't working very well, maybe you'd like to try the bottom or maybe even pull a number from another part of your anatomy.
Will you deliver them to me?
NO, not by the hairs on my chinny chin chin (especially with those offers)!!
I'm starting to understand the guys in the biz now. :mad:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
If you give me some of that money I promise you I will be impressed...more so as the amount increases.
BTW, someone mentioned that people can't be THAT STUPID. Yes they can, and often are.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Sad society...huh? :sick:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
They still have rotten resale value and a dismal reputation to overcome.
Thats what our Honda salesmen said when I told him we'd bought the Subaru. The funny part was the only reason I was there is because our Accord went in on a hook.
Ok then Mr. Smartypants, what's the least you'll take for each one?
More and more people every day will disagree with you on those two.
You'd be a good guy from whom to buy a used Hyundai. I bet you'd sell one really cheap.
Got any?
Oh, sure! Let's try argument by marginalization - that's always persuasive!
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
Tell me. Are you disagreeing or agreeing with the statement I made (and you cut and pasted) about a previous comment ?
That would be this one: "More and more people every day will disagree with you on those two" about the previous comment, that Hyundais have rotten reputations and resale.
Sorry too late...sold them late last night to a poster who was a serious buyer and not a grinder.
I'll be at one of those prestige dealerships first thing Monday morning. Oh happy days, oh happy days, oh...
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I thought that was against Honda Law No.1 ... "Thou shalt not be located close to any real competition". :P
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
about them
I was commenting on your style of "debate." isell made an assertion and your reply, in effect, was "Everyone else disagrees with you therefore I am right." In addition to being a non sequitur, it is a technique intended to get the upper hand in a debate by marginalizing the other side. No biggie - I was simply amused that anyone still uses that style.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
That would be this one: "More and more people every day will disagree with you on those two" about the previous comment, that Hyundais have rotten reputations and resale.
You are not even close about what my reply meant. It was not, in effect, that "Everyone else disagrees with you therefore I am right."
It was exactly as I stated. I was saying that Hyundais are becoming recognized as good cars nowadays by more people than before. Do you doubt that? How was that confusing to you?
Non sequitor? Hahaha! Obviously it was not. I looked it up.
If anything was a non sequitor it was your comment about debate techniques. No one had been posting about those.
I looked up another one too: mugwump.
Anyway, I'm happy that you are amused. It's nice to be amused. Your post also amused me.
I was not taking a position so I guess that does make me a mugwump! :P
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
I am guessing you completely ignore the current state of political debate in the United States then?
I'm just expressing my thoughts based on what I see. Maybe in your neck of the woods, people fight over used Hyundais.
Once in awhile we will get one in as a trade. Actually, as USED cars, I think the recent models can represent a pretty good buy. I don't think they are "bad" cars. I just think they aren't very popular. Most shoppers would rather pay more and buy a used Honda or a Toyota.
They will sit on our lot for months then when we take them to the auction, they no sale.
Maybe someday, Hyundai will rule the world. For the time being, they are a a drag on the market as used cars.
Nothing wrong with Subarus. They have a strong following, a decent reputation and good resale.
I think we were talking about Korean cars, weren't we?
I think certian dealers are so used to vehicles selling themselves, they don't know what to do. The closer manager at one of the Honda dealers called us while we were on our way back from picking up the Subaru and we told him we bought it and he was like, "what? why?"
We said it better met our needs.
I get a low price on these dogs because all the smart buyers won't touch them. That drives the price down for me.
Maybe my next car will be Korean.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Ford makes some really good cars to buy used. By the time the kinks are ironed out, nobody wants these because of the bad reputations they've earned over the years.
Of course, from time to time, something does slip up. But Taurus transmissions, for instance, are not a frequent issue any more.
The Tempo, the Taurus, the Contour, and the Focus all suffered from this effect. It's really quite pitiful watchin history repeat itself over a couple of decades.
Sometimes, a certain engine is trouble while a similar one is not. The 2.7l Dodge is a piece of you-know-what, but I believe the 3.5 is much better. Consumer Reports etc. will never show the difference between two engines if both are the same configuration.
But like I said, you have to pay a lot of attention.
-Mathias
Over 7 years ago I tried that tactic and the car I got has over 142K miles on it and is still going strong. Its been the most reliable car I have ever had.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D