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Would anywayz work?? :shades:
the dealership i work for has a toyota building and a hyundai building right next to each other. we are dropping the hyundai brand and just making the 2 buildings into one mega toyota store.
Yea, but do you think the typical V6 accord/camry buyer cares about that, or that V6 camry's are now rated below average in reliability by Consumer Reports.
the 08 is identical in design and look to the 07. Hyundai added the 4cyl option to the top of the line limited model is the only diff (before you could only get a v6 with the top of the line model).
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Yes, he sells cars too! What does that have to do with anything? He drives a VW Passat. The seat was all the way back. Heck, I'll take a picture for you tonight so you can see for yourself.
Hey , there's nothing wrong with Buick. Seems like it's the only domestic that has high quality and reliability ratings.
Here, let me post some pictures and smileys because it's obvious some people are having a hard time reading my posts without them.
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Toyota has VVT-I and Honda has VTEC. The big difference is Toyota's system is continous at any rpm range where Honda's only kicks in at a certain rpm. Honda's feels like a supercharger or turbo kicks in. Whit Toyota's system you don't feel it as it's always varying the intake valves timing by keeping them open longer when the need dictates. The I part is for intelligence which many people still don't understand. It is an adaptive technology that when mated to the transmission adjusts to your way of driving and compensates for wear and tear so that you always feel like you are driving a new car whether the miles on the ODO are 10 or 10000.
Sorry, you didn't win the dinner for two. I will give you another clue. Both countries are in the same continent.
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We're going to be looking at the Rav4 and Highlander.
The sculpture and ceramics students down the hall from me use armatures all the time, but I had no idea that they were bending Bobst into a support inside their forms.
I do think that the reason we no longer see Bobst here is that he has graduated from amateur and now sells his professional car-buying services. Probably even has a sign that states: "Bobst Method--as seen on edmunds.com!"
Gogiboy
By the way, you apparently didn't realize that it wasn't a true comparison test because the Accord's acceleration specs were merely estimated. Although, I do doubt it will hit 60 in 6.1 secs, anyway ... UNLESS of course you use the 6-speed stick ... something the geriatric'fied camry doesn't offer. ;b
Of course, Honda eliminated it for the '08 sedan, which is a shame, but at least at this point, MY Accord can spank a Camry, and with half a liter less displacement, to boot. ;b
Yes, he sells cars too! What does that have to do with anything?
uhhh... that would have been a joke about how a person who works with cars doesn't know how to adjust a seat. ;b
Unless honda chopped about 5 inches from the front seat legroom on the new model, I won't even believe a picture, frankly.
Oh, and the EPA estimates show the Accord gets marginally better mileage with one less gear, so I think the VCM is accounting for something there.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
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I asked her and she can't remember what section she lived in. I'll bet if there was a mall there now, she'd know that. :confuse:
All she could remember was she lived in the 100 block of Woodrow Ave. and she said that is the BAD area now.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Sure it would. Below sea level on a frigid day with a 30 mph tailwind, stability control turned off, passenger and rear seats and spare tire removed and John Force driving
Must be a lot of people going with their second options
Notice, I corrected your spelling and even I didn’t need gogiboy’s help for this one !!
Well, after you went and blabbed it all over this forum I don’t think anybody is going to believe it now.
You had a good thought there to unseat the ‘Bobst Method’, which, BTW, never really impressed me but you couldn’t keep your yap shut. :mad:
Wanna try again?
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
felt like a coffin, eh?
Toyota VVT-i is variable valve timing most effective in the low-mid rpm range, whereas honda VTEC in the mid-upper rpm range.
which will explain why toyotas feel more torque during pick up and why hondas have more higher hp, in general.
Man...why would any car company put a 4 cyl. in their top of the line model?
Only Hyundai could think of something like this in todays market. :P
I thought only GM and Ford allowed their marketing department to run lose with the company. :confuse:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Yeah that area is over by Blue hill Ave... That is a pretty tough area now and has changed a lot from the time she was there. She must be a tough cookie though. Most woman that come from Dorchester don't put up with to much bull s^&t. No wonder she gets along with you. If you are anything like your posts neither do you. ( that is a compliment )
GP
Most around here would consider that blasphemy, and a lifetime banishment from Edmunds.com to Cars.com (yuck). I didn't think much of the bobst method either though. I thought it ineffecient and left to much money on the table. But, whatever happened to bobst? With him no longer around, I believe my "Jipst Method" of car buying will take off... and I too will become rich and famous. :shades:
Thanks, I had no idea which one was faster. I have never had occasion to race a Honda, but it thrills me to know I have a slight edge. Just knowing is enough.
The 160 MPH Speedo makes some folks look twice. I did jokingly tell a Mustang guy once that my car was obviously faster because his speedo only went to 140. He looked again to check. That was all I needed to see. :shades:
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
This was Saturday. She was supposed to pick it up on Monday at 2PM. Guess what!
No Call NO SHOW and she wouldnt answer the phone. I had to use my cell phone to get her to answer. When I finally do talk to her, she said that she wants something bigger, like a Rendezvous.
AnywayS, at this point, I tell her that a Rendezvous is smaller. Then she says her son doesnt like anything we have. At this point I realize she is just full of it. I overcome every objection and she just lies. I just wish I had not wasted time with her in the beginning.
I hate when people are not honest with me. If you dont want the car, just tell me, dont make me waste my time trying to help you!
AnywayS, she has bad credit, and no one else will get the call we did, we called in a favor (literally, not the usual car salesperson BS).
Maybe it was karma taking over on the F&I Dept.
I hate dealerships that let F&I steal from the front. Oh yeah I know if they don't get it approved then it wouldn't be a deal anyway. I think it is very weak for a F&I guy to have to do that. And if they can't get the deal done maybe they shouldn't be in that position.
I worked for a dealership that did that before. I left after one month. There argument is they are the one that gets them approved. My argument when I left was if it wasn't for the sales person they wouldn't have any one to talk to! :mad:
I wish you the best of luck at that store. I assume you sell mostly used there?
GP
and don't forget popular with all the sales folks too!
the XLE camry and EX accord come with either a V6 or 4 cyl.
And not calling back or showing up is just bad integrity. At least have the guts and courtesy to call. :mad: What happens to their deposits? Don't they call to ask for them back?
DUH What the hell do you think I’ve been saying here for a year and a half ? :surprise:
Do you think I’ve just been beating my gums about this? Hold it, that’s a slip. I really do have some teeth left she couldn’t get in all her shots. I ain’t a total slouch, you know.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Well, I'm actually considering it - loaded comfortable commuter for a 30+ mile one way commute.
Apparently some do. qbrozen being one. But heck what do I know? I just sell 'em.
I'm not going to re-hash the V6 issue here. I've already done that in the Camry transmission problems thread.
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Mack
See what I mean? I’m not a total car geek yet. At this rate, I’ll probably have my present ride for 10 years.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
So why wasn't a "true comparison" ? Who are you waiting to do a true comparsion? CarAndDriver? whoopee they are very unbiased (NOT). And yes we do offer a six speed stick. It's called a sequential transmission for those that desire to shift without a clutch.
I doubt very much YOUR Accord can spank any of MY Camrys.
So now you're calling me a liar. No picture then. TKS.
Your EPA "estimates" are an "improvement" over the last Accord not over the Camry. VCM is an outdated technology, I wouldn't brag about it. Actually it's quite embarrassing to claim any advantage on FE and emissions.
You think GM had their hands in this pie>? They have done some collaborations lately.
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" VVT-I is a system that selects the ideal intand and exhaust valve overlap under all engine operating conditions. VVT-i eliminates the traditional compromises between low-end torque and high-RPM horsepower. It also helps to enhance fuel economy. On Camry 4 cylinder, VVT-I controls the intake valves. On the V-6 dual VVT-I controls both intake AND exhaust."
Mackabee
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I am friends with the F&I guy outside of work. I have been selling cars a few years longer than him, and I know that I am stronger, but the GM wants him to close special deals for some reason. At least after this, I will be able to tell them I am closing my own deals. I am stronger.
1/1 today hopefully the slump is over.
A few hours later the same woman calls and tells me she will be by to pick up the used car in a couple hours. Apparently she had to learn for herself what the TRUE price was at that dealership.
In the past year and a half we have had three people put down deposits on Range Rovers only to back out the day of the deal. None of them bothered to call us and tell us that. I called one to let her know that we were all set for her and I would see her later that afternoon and she told me she was going with another dealer unless we could beat their ridiculous price. That story is fully detailed in past posts.
One other person never bothered to call us and has never returned phone calls. The other called and left a message with our receptionist telling us he would have to pick up the car tomorrow and then one of his friends called and let it slip that he was buying another car out of state.
We kept all of their deposits but they were on credit cards so I am sure they just disputed the charges with their CC company.
Well, since you guys INSIST on talking about cars, here's my take on this Accord vs Camary debate. This is an unprofessional view of course since I'm only the guy with the money. What do I know.
The Camary is ugly. I'm sorry but I don't know how else to put it.(the last time I liked the Camary looks was 2 generations ago). The Honda while not beautiful to my eye looks a lot better. The coupe I sat in recently had tons of head and leg room and I'm 6'2". The Accord interior is not cheap at least in the coupe.
I may have a bias against the Toyota because of a lemon I owned many years ago. The locals here in my area are big fans. At work I drive by a Toyota dealer every day and I am impressive how many Camarys they have on the lot (bigger than any other two dealers put together. The Honda dealers in my area seem to be hiding. If I wanted one I'm not sure I would know where to go.
As to performance, one of the car mags came up with a list of the 10 fastest cars of 2007 under 30K and the Camary was near the top. The 2008 Accord is rated almost as fast though.
I guess if the prices were the same I would go with the new Honda.
Now,back to emotorcons.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
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You're not getting off this easy!
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
Thanks, Dave
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
Shouldn't that be "lost women" ?
For them to hit on us, that's what they'd have to be but it's still fun anyways; didn't see you there. :P
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Congratulations!!! Think of the money you will save not having to send them to college and the great stories they will have to tell.
I know what you're up to. You just did that to see if I really read all of the posts. You can't fool me. I know that you can write and ---"S"pell.