Dodge Magnum Maintenance & Repair
Having a problem with your Magnum? This is the place for owners to pool their knowledge and help you sort things out!
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As for lemon law, that only applies after the dealer has had an opportunity to attempt at least three repairs. Your dealership has informed you that it is a known issue and are awaiting the proper repair info from DC, thus they have not actually attempted the first repair yet. If you really feel unsafe in the vehicle, your only recourse is to trade it, but that will cost you major money with the initial depreciation hit.
I'd suggest having your service department keep you informed as to when the reprogramming is available and to come in as soon as possible to have the computer adjusted.
kcram
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(I looked into the recalls & there is only one for gauge calibration.)
Thanks a lot.
M
It is frustrating to have an issue like this in a new car, but since the Magnum is an all-new design, these gremlins do crop up when real-world experiences create situations that don't show up during testing.
(Or I'm just reeeeeeeally patient LOL)
kcram
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FYI: I am 40 yrs old- male , I drove 2 Corvette for 15 yeers and no way I was pressing on the accelerator. My foot was on the brake only as the engine continued toaccelerate. I slways thought most uncontrolled rapid accelarations were people getting the brake and accelerator pedals mixed up. Now I am not sure.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Best Regards,
Shipo
Nothing at all no smoke I cant tell its running .
I do hope you get that fixed I bet its in the upper part of the motor sound like valve seals to me .
Have you done a oil consumption test to any degree?
Ive seen exactly what you speak of on a car I had with bad valve seals......
Ask them to check this out I bet it wasnt in the short block I suspect tham to look in the heads....
I think it sounds like something Ive seen in a car I had a few years ago .
Valve seals are letting oil thru at startup,possibly under load also.
Has the dealer done a consumption test ???
Man it sounds like poorly seated valve guide seals ,have them tear the heads down ,it wasnt the short block ....Sounds like head issues sticking valve etc....
Serious Ive seen this before ..
Hope they find it let me know.
lawyer time...
How are they deactivated? is BOTH spark AND fuel cut?
Thanks!
As computers have become much more reliable, the Detroit automakers are looking to use this basic concept a little bit more. In the mid 90's, Cadillac used a similar system; in the event of coolant loss, the computer would automatically shut off fuel and spark to 4 cylinders at a time, alternating at regular intervals to reduce heat buildup. But an advanced version of the 4-6-8 system was used in the design of the Cadillac Sixteen Concept a few years ago. I had also heard GM was planning on actually using the system again, but hadn't heard what they were using it on.
In a nutshell the car runs on the 1st and 2nd cyliners all the time ,then the msd system dispuses power as the throttle is pressed there no way to know when its in 4 cylinder mode other than the fact youll usually at crusiing speed.Keep in mind that 2 cylinders will be more worn than all the others,running at all times thats why a good breaking period is the most easy way to assure this engine will last.
I heard the 2 cyliders are sleeved more than the other 6 ..
The way I heard it the car counts nano seconds before the switch from 4to 8 cylinders.
You cant feel it at all ..
I did my best to explain what I feel is alien tech...LOl.
5.7-LITER HEMI(R) V-8
The modern HEMI engine offers more power and torque than any Chrysler
Group vehicle passenger car engine since the legendary 426 HEMI of the '60s
and '70s. Today's engine produces 340 hp @ 5000 rpm and 390 lb.-ft. of torque
at 4000 rpm.
The new HEMI has been engineered to deliver outstanding performance, and
also provide minimal noise, vibration, and harshness, smoothness and low
emissions. Fuel economy has also been improved, but not at the expense of
performance. Chrysler Group has developed and will be the first to offer to
offer Multi-Displacement System (MDS) on a modern, large volume vehicle in
North America.
"The Chrysler Group MDS seamlessly alternates between smooth, high fuel
economy four-cylinder mode when less power is needed, and V-8 mode when more
power from the 5.7L HEMI engine is in demand," said Eric Ridenour, Executive
Vice President Product Development Chrysler Group. "This optimizes fuel
economy when V-8 power is not needed, without sacrificing vehicle performance
-- 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT owners will get the maximum benefit
without any compromises."
Owners of the Dodge Magnum RT will receive the powerful benefit of the
HEMI engine with the fuel economy that they would only expect from a smaller,
less powerful engine.
"The MDS was part of the engine's original design," said Bob Lee, Vice
President Powertrain Product Team Chrysler Group. "This resulted in a
cylinder-deactivation system that is elegantly simple and completely
integrated into the engine design. The benefits are fewer parts, maximum
reliability and lower cost."
Some of the significant technologies enabling the Chrysler Group MDS are
the speed of electronic controls, the sophistication of the algorithms
controlling the systems and the use of Electronic Throttle Control ETC. The
HEMI will be able to transition from eight cylinders to four in
40 milliseconds (0.040 seconds).
The HEMI engine with MDS has completed over 6.5 million customer-
equivalent miles through Chrysler Group's development and durability testing.
It is covered by the 7-Year/70,000-mile Limited Powertrain warranty.
The HEMI engine that powers the Dodge Magnum RT uses aluminum cylinder
heads with hemispherical combustion chambers for outstanding airflow leading
to high power and torque. Dual ignition (two spark plugs per cylinder)
increases peak power and torque, reduces exhaust emissions, increases fuel
economy and provides a smooth idle. The combustion system has been refined
and the engine uses direct-mount accessories for quiet operation.
The engine is equipped with ETC which enables several of the technologies
used to maximize vehicle smoothness, performance, safety and fuel economy.
The Chrysler Group's first five-speed automatic transmission for passenger
cars provides a full range of transmission performance to match a great
variety of driving styles, situations and road conditions.
"This transmission offers Chrysler Group customers many benefits. The
five-speed gear range provides a better balance of performance and fuel
economy than a four-speed automatic transmission," said Ridenour. "Fully
adaptive electronic control of all shifting makes the powertrain feel
responsive without harshness."
The transmission's physical attributes include compact size, robust design
for high-torque rating and multiple features providing high efficiency. It
also utilizes highly advanced electronic controls such as fully adaptive
electronic control and Electronically Modulated Converter Clutch (EMCC).
This five-speed automatic transmission and with all-wheel drive
applications is standard equipment with the 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 engine on the
2005 Dodge Magnum RT and with all-wheel drive applications. It is a
DaimlerChrysler transmission built at the Indiana Transmission Plant II in
Kokomo, Indiana.
The ratio spread from first to the fifth was selected to minimize fuel
consumption and reduce powertrain noise during cruising. An aggressive
first-gear ratio provides excellent launch performance, and evenly spaced gear
ratios provide smooth acceleration through the gears.
World-class efficiency is achieved through physical and electronic means.
This transmission uses bearings to reduce friction in many locations where
other transmissions may utilize bushings. The transmission also uses a unique
scavenging system that removes oil spun off of the rotating parts by
centrifugal force through strategically placed slots in the outside of the
case. This saves energy that would be consumed by internal parts rotating in
oil. Lubricating holes in the clutches are also positioned to promote quick
passage of the transmission fluid through the discs, minimizing viscous losses
due to trapped oil.
Fully adaptive electronic control of all shifting makes shifts very
smooth. The system monitors the transmission as shifts occur and adjusts
hydraulic pressure as needed. In so doing, the controls make the powertrain
feel responsive without harshness. Driver recognition software alters shift
points based on accelerator pedal usage, brake usage and lateral acceleration.
This does not require a compromise between sporty and economical operation,
nor is it a question of choosing one or the other.
The Torque Management System uses engine-torque modeling to facilitate
smooth transmission shifting. Because of ETC, torque management is more
sophisticated and covers a broad torque range.
The shift schedule adapts to individual driving style, driving situation
and road conditions, altering shift points based on an accelerator pedal
usage, brake usage, lateral acceleration, altitude and load on the car as a
result of grades. Electronically controlled engine Torque Management System
provides quick wide-open-throttle up shifts and quick two-step (4-2 or 3-1)
kick-down shifts that are smoother than would be otherwise possible without
this feature.
The transmission ratios are:
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Reverse
3.58 2.19 1.41 1.00 0.83 3.17
Through EMCC, torque converter clutch slippage is electronically modulated
and provides for partial engagement in third, fourth or fifth gears. This
results in improved shift feel, fuel economy, driveability and cooling. It
can be used at lower speeds to provide benefits over a broad speed range. The
system disengages as required to provide optimal performance.
FOUR-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
The 42RLE four-speed automatic transmission is a variant of the 42LE
automatic transmission used on previous Chrysler Group vehicles. It was
developed for the Dodge Magnum and is included with both V-6 engines on
rear-wheel drive models.
This four-speed automatic features fully adaptive electronic control of
all shifting for smooth operation. Similar to the five-speed, it uses the
Torque Management System to smoothly execute quick wide-open-throttle up
shifts and down shifts. It also uses EMCC to electronically modulate torque
converter lockup and provide for partial engagement in third or fourth gears.
This results in improved shift feel, fuel economy, driveability and cooling.
The transmission ratios are:
1st 2nd 3rd 4th Reverse
2.84 1.57 1.00 0.69 2.21
This ingenious system selectively and seamlessly deactivates half of the engine's cylinders while cruising and operates all eight cylinders while idling, accelerating and responding to heavy load conditions.
The final result is full power when you need it and up to 20% more fuel economy savings overall.
Police agenies are going to the Magnum and charger for use DC really put the Hemi thru the ringer to capture that market ..They really went to the wall with this engine it burns very clean .......
I asked myself all the same questions you have before I bought and have never looked back ..
3000 miles on my RT AWD and not a single issue .I do know people with about 50k on thier mags, and the same holds true.
Thankgod
He returned and just was freaking what a great ride the car had not to mention tons of power.........Hes buying one also asap his Saab wagon just had the turbo go out the they are not happy..
Too put it lightly we are a bit spoiled we have had some awsome rides in the past but the magnum is a total surprise and a treat ..
You cant go wrong..Just baby her and be light on the pedal till you have approx 2k on the car ..
Anyone else?
How does a person gain access to this information, in order to present the service manager/ sales mgr. with this information. They both said that they had never heard of this happening to a Magnum.
Also if I can get them to buy back the car, what is a fair price for milleage?
Thank you for your help, Don
If your car has a persistent grinding noise, they yes, I too would advise that you take it to the dealer.
Best Regards,
Shipo
I have an 05 SXT w/ 46000 miles (I drive alot!) Since I pulled it off the lot, it had a weird rattle that got worse in hot weather and was loudest on the right side but would also come from the driver's side. I took it to the dealer 5 times. They felt so bad once, they gave me a free wash and detail! Well, we finally figured it out. I figured out it seemed to be coming from the fender area and it turns out the plastic wheel well was rattling against the fender. A few clips installed still under the basic warranty since that is when the problem started to happen and I am now rattle free and happy. :shades:
I thought the service tech was going to cry when I told him it was finally fixed!
BTW, I LOVE my magnum. I love all the check it out looks I get and I love passing everyone in traffic! I knew buying a car in it's first production year would mean some bugs, but they have all been taken care of and my dealership has been great. I didn't even buy the car from them, but they act like I did.
I just bought a 2006 SXT 3.5L w/ 12K miles and a few times it's had problems starting. It acts like it's flooded or not getting gas and only starts after pumping the gas and than holding it down to clear it out several times; it idles rough for a few minutes and than is fine. It only does this when it sits for a couple hours or more, but not all the time. After about the third time the check engine light came on and has stayed on (it's only been a day or so since it came on with minimal driving).
It just came off the lot and is still under warranty, so I will be taking it in first thing when they open, but I'm interested if anyone has experienced this and knows what's going on. Thanks,
-Russ
Here's my list:
Clear coat peeled at the molding and door handles on drivers side of car.
Sun roof rattles when fully opened
Car pulls to the right
Rattle under the left front end (am told it could be a loose bolt on the swaybar)
Something underneath sounds like it's flapping when you're going 60mph or so, we think it might be those plastic protectors under there.
Passenger window on the drivers side sometimes won't go up or down.
The inside door panels on all 4 doors are loose, you can actually push them in and see them move, it's like they aren't latched in all the way.
It's outside of the dealer warranty period so now we're stuck trying to figure out what's wrong ourselves. It's been in the garage 2 times and nobody seems to be able to fix it. Very frustrating.
We're actually considering trading it for something else. We owned a Chevy for 6 years and put tires, brakes an alternator & battery on it and it was solid as a rock. Never a squeek or rattle at all.
I was hesitant to buy a Dodge, I think I know why now. Very disappointing, we probably won't get anything for trade in.
I have had a few issues with the magnum, I had to replace the tires went from continentals to good year. At 36,000 minles I needed to replace my rear brakes, thankfully the fronts were replaced 10,000 miles ago due to a defect in materials they were covered completely - a little tussle with the dealer but they covered them 100 %.
I do a have problem with the passenger rear window creating a suction that at times if too hot outside I cannot open but i face the airconditioning towards the window and then it will go down. The dealer has put silicone spray o nthe moldings but it will still do it from time to time.
A
As I said I love my Car, I get great comments about hte car, it handles great.
Says they will inspect the engine and if necessary replace the engine.
Anyone else see this notice or experience this problem?
What year is your car ? Is it a later model. I have a 2005, but purchased in Nov. 2004.