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Even this, February 2012 Motor Trend Long Test Article 2011 Odyssey Touring Elite, 6 months old, 14999 miles "...we'll have the technicians look at the transmission as well. Over time, shifting has become rough, and occasionally upon acceleration between first and second gears, the transmission seems to be shuddering."
Drove the first Odyssey for about 120,000 miles before we sold the van. About half of the miles were highway- the rest in town. Van was frequently heavily loaded with passengers and cargo. Had the transmission serviced at about 60 -70,000 miles (dealer service). We never had any transmission performance or reliability problems. I would describe our transmission experience as "excellent".
The 2005 Odyssey now has 145,000 miles. These miles are probably 2/3 highway and 1/3 in town. We moved to Arizona just after we bought this van and the temperature is frequently >110 degrees for most of the summer and >120 is not uncommon. Because the nearest dealer is more than 70 miles away, I have had the vehicles serviced by a trusted local mechanic. I had the transmission flushed and serviced at 60,000 and 130,000 miles. The mechanic described the transmission to be in very good condition (and he services many transmissions of all makes.) We have never had any performance or reliability problems with this transmission either.
The service reliability of these two cars (as good or better than any other cars we have ever owned) has my wife insistent that only an Odyssey will do when we decide to replace it. I kind of like the Sienna a bit more, but our experience with our other Toyotas has made us both gun-shy.
Is there something specific about the current Odysseys that make it apparent that they should be avoided? In particular, is the newer 6-speed automatic a problem child?
though hopefully the newer 9dual shaft?) design they adopted in ~ 2007 truly fixes the root cause.
the more recent problems seem to be with the torque converter, and that seems to also be computer (controls) related.
honda certainly had plenty of time (and bad experience to review) since 2000 to fix the issues for real, not just bandaid the old pig!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2000, 150k,
first, 2 yrs ago, tranny ill shift properly, kick, spit, disengage, but moves..
now, wont shift past 3gear, but goes like gunho.. somtimes, slips, but mostly goes..
no transmission monkey was able to pin point , thats when they say, u need new tranny. bad tranny , but bad tranny wont move at all ...
anyone went thru this? any input>
dan
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Replaced transmssion once at 184k kms; currently at 306k kms on my 2002.
Honda has done nothing to fix the problem in the past or even now. Mine went out at 68000 miles and Honda told me too bad so sad. You are on your own. I did the service, no towing, etc.
you said "(put in 3 1/2 quarts, run it through all the gears, dump it out and do it again , and then again)" how many time did you do this in one service? is this equivalent to "power flush" it?
2nd, "Magnefine inline filter," where did you buy it? is it easily understandable? Would a mechanic be able to know what to do if I show him your message? I am not capable to do this myself. Thanks.
I don;t think HOnda recommends a "power flush" for the Odys' In fact a lot of a/t owners dread the idea of disturbing all the built up gunk and varnish in the screens. The drain and re-fill system is a much less violent experience for your tranny. Costs a lot less too. This is one Honda service that anyone can easily do but if you have a guy with a lift I guess that's good too.
I buy my Magnefine filters off eBay, look for the 3/8" ones. you cut the rubber hose "return line" under the air breather box and put the filter in that location. Under heavy use i.e high mileage people have opened them up and they seem to be good for a year or at least 25,000 miles. The first thing you notice after installing one is when you do a 'drain and fill', the Honda magnet on the drain plug will hardly have any debris stuck to it, so the Magnefine filter is doing is job well.
BTW, the complete installation instructions are in the box.
They built a/t stinkers for years too, but now are just a good as or better than any other VAn in that price range. I can get a Chrysler Town and Country for $10,000 or less than an Odyssey with a better warranty and reputation.
I now see them everywhere on the road and in the warm sunny city where we spend the 5 months of winter.
To be fair tho, I love the HOnda engine on my pressure washer!
" Chrysler's first diesel engine will be a turbocharged 3.0-litre V6. The powerplant, jointly developed with Fiat, will reportedly make 241 horsepower and 406 pound-feet of torque. Currently mated to a five-speed automatic gearbox under the hood of the Jeep Grand Cherokee in other markets, the new oil-burner would deliver an fuel economy of about 10.2 L/100km (23 mpg) city and 7.1 L/100km (33 mpg) highway (the Cherokee's current gasoline-fed 3.6-litre V6, also mated to a five-speed, delivers 13.8 L/100km (17 mpg) city and 10.2 L/100km (23 mpg) highway).
While the bad news is that the automaker is likely going to delay the launch of its diesel models until the 2014 model year to finish development on a new ZF-sourced eight-speed automatic (a gearbox that promises to deliver improved acceleration and even better fuel economy), the good news is that the automaker will shorten the 2013 model year to allow the 2014 models to arrive as early as January of next year."
I have read the the new ZF a/t will be well worth waiting for and so will the 30 mpg highway.
on more serious note, do you know of any video or illustration of what you explained here.
me: oddy, 2000, 150k
dan
I ordered my Magnefine filter at ebay and is waiting for it to arrive. This is also not described in the manual. any idea as why wouldn't Honda add it?
Thanks again.
ONE IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE OTHER, WHATS TEH DIFRNC>
IS IT WORTH THE EXTRA BUCK>
DAN
I also think that the "Z1" Honda a/ fluid has never been up to the job and when Honda replaced it with the DW1 they did it in a very sneaky way.
They never said that it was a more robust fluid, (even tho it is) never claimed it would solve any of the wear and tear of the trannys,(it probably will) or any mention it was an upgrade in any way except helping to increase mpg's at cold start up.
Thereby negating any claims that they knew for years that the Z1 fluid was not up to the job.
I know one re-builder that never replaces the Honda Z1 OEM fluid in his re-builds, and he has a 5 year warranty on his transmissions.
There are other car companies that create propraitary products as well tho so Honda is not alone on this one
The Odyssey and other Acura/Honda transmissions are a multi million dollar headache for Honda and their legal department is very aware of the consequences of the company doing anything except swapping them out with re-builds with no modifications that could be proved in court that they admitted to the design flaws.
In fact my local dealer has said that their shop will not do ANY work on them except swap them out for the re-build.
( BTW when they do they add an extra filter to help the POS re-build survive until the warranty is up.)
I don't know about "Magnifilter" might be a different brand (or a typo?)
but here's a link to Youtube that I got a kick out of....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inG3rsg1f5c
(Don't miss "Part 2) the same guy takes the filter off after less than 700 miles and you will see all the metal sludge it's picked up...don't forget that your a/t also produces other nasty things like clutch wear, aluminum, and dirt that the paper filter catches, the magnet traps the iron bits.
BTW you don't have to cut them up...a big pair of waterpump pliers will turn off the intake end of the filter housing. It's designed to be taken apart by unscrewing the housing.
Thanks again for the good info... Just so that it is clear what I need to do, when you said ‘BTW you don't have to cut them up...’ were you or were you not referring to what you said in msg #2244: ‘...you cut the rubber hose "return line" under the air breather box and put the filter in that location.’
If you were, are you now advising, instead, use waterpump plier to ‘turn off the intake end of the filter housing’? do you mean the Magnefilter housing?
( question is: are pictures postabale here? )
i guess not, :mad: ">
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
can u do that with utube, still pictures we are talking here.
dan
i will try to shoot video tomoro , n post it to utube, then post it here, 2 sucks
dan
if someone see this, let me know if it works
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-ACCORD-ODYSSEY-ACURA-CL-TL-V6-A-T-Sh- ift-Control-Solenoid-A-B-ASSEMBLY-/320932985063?hash=item4ab918b8e- 7&item=320932985063&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vx​- ;p=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-ACCORD-ODYSSEY-ACURA-CL-TL-V6-A-T-Sh- ift-Control-Solenoid-A-B-ASSEMBLY-/320932985063?hash=item4ab918b8e- 7&item=320932985063&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vx​- ;p=mtr
https://www.facebook.com/groups/224748094257241/
https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10151136089557028&set=a.163070567027.- 147441.548307027&type=1&theater
I'll be going back to GM, Ford or Dodge.
i read here , cant remember the name, about cleaning the selonoid screens, i was really doubtfull, but i did it, and it is not a picnic for first timers, like me, but i did it, with 105 degrees tempreture, n lots of sweat, i could not believe my eyes n feet,, the ody 2000, with 155k, ran so smooth, that i was really ecctatic.
it took me 4 hours, and no parts changed at all, only cleaning the screens and put back together , and voillla, car runs 90% better,
only mistake that i did , is not to replace old atf b4 the fix, because some of old dirt maybe went back n clogged some of screens holes. so learn from my mistakes.
i really doubt that there is anything wrong by design in trans itslf, and all it takes is some cleanning to those selonoids,
i think dealers and tran shops have known that for long time, and instead of charging cpl hours of work to fix ur tran for another 50k miles, they want you to shed 4000 dollars, as ethics are optional in this profession as ever.
if you need help, i took some pictures in process of working , i can share with you, or better if you live in my area, northern va, i can do it for you for a lot less than new tran ))))
dan
ramy1995@yahoo.com
I have a 2008 Odyssey EX-L with about 60k on it. The van seems to stutter at highway speeds usually 60mph. I have read many of the other post but am getting confused. Is this a transmission problem or motor mount issue? It is a certified pre-owned van from Honda and we picked up the Platinum Bumper to Bumper warranty as well. Worst case scenario is the Tranny will need to be replaced??? If so will it be covered under warranty 100%?
Thanks for the help,
On my transmission replacement, in 2007, I wrote Honda and in the meantime paid the full amount of CN$4,200. They refunded half. I had 184,000kms on it and my warranty was for 160,000kms. Had it happen up to 160,000kms it would have been 'no charge'.
I currently have 307,000kms on my 2002.
I expect that Honda will give me some kind of discount because this is a ridiculously short life for a transmission. Everything about the vehicle is nice except for the transmission. I always warn people looking for used 99-01 to be aware of the notorious transmission issues. 02-03 also have problems but not as bad as the old 4-speed. :lemon:
dan
any remedy for the weak thrust bearing and torque converter short of replacing them?
thanks again
dan
where do you live?
clean your seline diyons.. selonoids and see what happens.. it is i think 3 hours by the book, although , me no mechanic with cave man tools, i did it in 3 hours.