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You wrote:
"...... a check engine light sooner if actual driving conditions warrant checking the rear diff. sooner!!! "
I'm not sure if I understand how driving conditions plus the check engine light plus the rear diff are tied together. Can anyone explain that?
I think he/she meant "Maintenance minder light"
Potatoe/Tomato, same thing, lol
Thanks for the info. Car into dealership today. They tell me that they are using a new type of diff oil just released by Honda. Not sure if this will fix the problem but have my fingers crossed. Not sure how long it will last. 1st one lasted 40,000kms. The service manager said it would take at least 3-4hours to do the job properly (Honda recommends less than that) and he told me that while they do get this sort of complaint from time to time but not a lot. Not sure if he was giving me the whole picture. I think I will face the same issues as others on this post. I don't take the CRV off the road much and wish I had more time for the R&R stuff. My communication with Honda was from their website and will let you know their response. I think I will call them as well. Thanks again for repespomnding to my listing.- Gerry
Appreciate any and all advice
Of course this is not a scientifically proven assessment, but something tells me by the lack of reoccurring complaints by those (including me) that have replaced the Dual Pump fluid with version II, that the new oil may be working. Of course, there is that caveat of water getting into the system, but we'll have to wait and see on that.
Please keep us in the loop as I will likewise do
Ted
Appreciate any and all advice
If you have the girly version (automatic) replace the ATF fluid at 30,000 mile intervals or sooner.
Perform brake lubrication and cleaning once a year, or twice a year if you live in the rust belt.
Still no reply from Honda Australia. I think they know they are at fault with this diff. Noise has gone after oil replacement. Will let you know what their response is when I get it. Cheers Gerry
And yes, let me know what Honda says
Cheers Back at cha
t
Thank you !!
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A07-024.PDF
Has anyone else had this problem, and if so what can be done?
Thanks,
Paul
Thanks
Why two identical CRVs in such short order? I love them and Honda made an offer I could not refuse to change.
Eventually received a telephone call from one of their customer service people in head office. Apologised profusely for the delay in getting back to me. He was not overly willing to admit Honda's design flaws in their diff design. He kept saying how Honda will rectify problem while under warranty otherwise it's a service expense for the car owner. Kept telling me it was a service requirement to regularly replace the diff oil but couldn't tell me exactly when it needed changing. Quite vague about this. Overall not a very satisfactory response from Honda. Asked about the breather outlet in the diff housing and said it was necessary as the diff would expode if it didn't have this breather outlet. Not sure about the CRV anymore. Nice to drive but I'm sure their are plenty of other makes & models that don't have this problem. Think I will just have to keep an eye on it and get it sorted quickly if the shudder comes back. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge - much appreciated - Gerry
As it is, I see many, many on the road from all three generations.
Something tells me we haven't seen the end of this
Thanks for the head;s up and be safe
t
The bulletin is for 2002-2007, but if there's still a problem.... :mad:
Judy
When it took the car in they asked if I wanted to have the rear diff oil change done twice (and of course pay twice), I said "no, do it three times!", just kidding, but apparently after the oil change sometimes the noise continues so they want to do it again. If that happens I'll be pissed and I'll call Honda again and talk to someone who has some authority instead of just some "puppet" customer service rep. If I would have know all this I certaintly would not buy a CRV !
Problem 2
Cruise control quit. When the main switch is depressed, the indicator on the dash does not come on. If I then push the "SET" button the "Cruise Control" is displayed on dash for about 1 second and the goes out. It will not come on again by pushing "Set" unless the main switch is turned off and then on again. The cruise does not engage the throttle at any time.
I took my CRV to a Honda authorised service centre here in Cyprus with the rear diff noise problem. They were going to replace the DPF but when they drained out the differential the existing fluid looked okay - looked like I might have needed a new diff. However they instead tried replacing it with some "special home made" oil they had sitting in a vat (they won't tell me the make-up of it, looked like old engine oil to me!) and amazingly it seems to have fixed it (touch wood). I was a bit worried as there is a mantra on these forums that thou shalt use official Honda DPF but 2 months later the noise is still gone and my car is (so far) running okay without the noise and I use it every day. Hope this doesn't jinx it! Even if I do need to replace the diff at some point it's probably on its last legs anyway. Any ideas how much that would cost in parts and how long it would take (labour here is quite cheap).
Are there any lawyers out there wanting to cash in on a class action lawsuit? This one is made to order. The owners manual clearly states the interval between oil changes and Honda is not following this schedule. Also, there are cases in the forums of the differentials locking up while driving, and there are probably accidents resulting from this as well.
Had Honda even bothered to notify us about this issue, we would have had the car serviced while still under warranty, and in any event would have been alerted to watch for this problem. Since they did not, it is now our problem to fix. Short of taking them to small claims court (which I will definitely consider) my only recourse seems to no longer do business with this company and publicly complain about their customer treatment. I have bought several Honda cars in the past, and have a 99 Accord that has given me great service, but unless Honda changes their position on this problem I will NEVER again buy a Honda automobile.
there is a mantra on these forums that thou shalt use official Honda DPF
Rich, the real mantra is “thou shalt use official Honda DPF II as in not the old DPF, but the reformulated 2nd Generation DPF .
There seems to be two (maybe three) class action type of problems with the CRV
A) The owners manual clearly has the wrong mileage to change the DPF
The original DPF was defective
C) There may be a place in the rear dif where water is getting in to the differential housing
Beyond all that, you should definitely find out what kind of DPF was used in your CRV
Please report back
Ted
"Replaced rear fluid and burnished the rear clutches"
I believe this is a design flaw, and a lawsuit should be filed against Honda
Yes, others have had the problem repeat. How long you can get the dealer to perform the service under warranty is an open question. At 25K, you should qualify with no hassle.
Are there any lawyers out there wanting to cash in on a class action lawsuit? This one is made to order. The owners manual clearly states the interval between oil changes and Honda is not following this schedule. Also, there are cases in the forums of the differentials locking up while driving, and there are probably accidents resulting from this as well.
Had Honda even bothered to notify us about this issue, we would have had the car serviced while still under warranty, and in any event would have been alerted to watch for this problem. Since they did not, it is now our problem to fix. Short of taking them to small claims court (which I will definitely consider) my only recourse seems to no longer do business with this company and publicly complain about their customer treatment. I have bought several Honda cars in the past, and have a 99 Accord that has given me great service, but unless Honda changes their position on this problem I will NEVER again buy a Honda automobile.
What would be the basis of the class action suit?
Everyone who contacted Honda corporate had the issue resolved. Have you contacted corporate? Dealers are franchise owners and do not neccessarily represent Corporate's interest. In fact, some crooked dealers will charge you for the service and will charge Honda corporate for the same service.
I agree that Honda should have issued a correction to the manual by mailing a self adhesive page that goes in place of the original, like they used to do in the 80's. Instead, they issued TSB to the dealers to provide this service for free. Some dealers are too greedy and continue chraging customers.
Once you formulate what you want the class action suit to pursue, you may have a lawyer interested. There was no breach of contract, nor laws broken.
I contacted Honda corporate, they said that they "opened a case" (whatever that means to them) and I haven't heard from them since and I'm not holding my breath. My car was fixed by the Honda dealership. The manager didn't want to talk to me seriously about the issue.
I've never owned a perfect car, but I've owned a few with problems galore, and I happily take the minor imperfections I find in Honda (or Toyota) cars. Those looking for perfection, I'm afraid, are going to be disappointed.
So, if they fixed it, what are you proposing they do in the class action? Wipe your bottom for a year? :confuse:
A) Yelling won't get you anywhere.
How dare a manufacturer expect the owners to do maintenance on their vehicles!!!!
The TSB goes on, "Out of Warranty: Any repair performed after warranty may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision before starting work."
Whoever told you this issue was not covered under warranty was in error. It's unfortunate, but common to all dealers, that some employees are poorly informed or simply instructed to try to charge for something they shouldn't be charging for.
Bottom line, an informed consumer should not have to pay for having the rear differential fluid changed until it's normally scheduled in the owner's manual.