General Intake / Exhaust Mods

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  • pks1pks1 Member Posts: 32
    how much are aftermarket air intakes ? Are they hard to install
  • SPYDER98SPYDER98 Member Posts: 239
    Depends if they even make one for your car.
    Anyone have any ideas where to find performance products for a mercury tracer?
  • vac23vac23 Member Posts: 118
    try www.performanceproducts.com. check for the ford tempo also. they both are the same car.
  • pks1pks1 Member Posts: 32
    the link I'll will try that
  • judasjudas Member Posts: 217
    Actually the Mercury Tracer is the same as the Ford Escort, I believe. The Mercury version of the Tempo is called the Topaz. I don't believe the Tracer shares any drivetrain components with the Topaz so I doubt anything designed for the Tempo/Topaz will fit on an Escort/Tracer.
  • vac23vac23 Member Posts: 118
    opps! you're right. sorry about that pks
  • pks1pks1 Member Posts: 32
    i beleive its the same as ford escort LX . I have another question today I did a pretty impressive burn out . later I went back to the spot and I found that only one of the tiers left a mark . It seems like the other tire wasnt spinning . The burnout was from about 5500rpm and dropped the clutch. I could smell rubber in the car. Is that common for only one tire to leave a mark?
  • vac23vac23 Member Posts: 118
    I'm pretty sure about this one :-) Your car is a fwd. In older fwd vehicles, the torque from the engine is now evenly distributed to both front tires. So one wheel may get more torque-which would leave tire marks. Another thing that could cause that is there's more weight on one tire then the other.
  • pbb98pbb98 Member Posts: 19
    It's because your escort has an open differential. The wheel that has the least resistance spins. Do too many more burnouts like that and you'll be smelling clutch instead of rubber.
  • dgeminidgemini Member Posts: 161
    Go to a search engine like yahoo, or infoseek and search for Ford Escort.

    There are quite a few websites for the Ford Escort.
  • pks1pks1 Member Posts: 32
    why will I smell my clutch. Arent all cars like that ex Civic? I dont do them often just once in a while.
  • SPYDER98SPYDER98 Member Posts: 239
    My post is gone. I just suggested he save his money for a clutch job soon thats all :)
  • blownponyblownpony Member Posts: 5
    you will smell clutch when you burn it up....a tracer is not a performance car it is an economy car and does not have a clutch that is designed to take that sort of abuse...changing a clutch in a fwd is no cakewalk either...
  • camshaft1camshaft1 Member Posts: 35
    hey everyone,
    i'm looking at a non brand cold air filter for a 95 m3. it comes w/cone filter, chrome connection, brackets, and gaskets. i'm getting it for a non brand price. what kind of chances am i taking? have you ever heard of any problems with the chrome ones or non brand filters?
  • bheplerbhepler Member Posts: 101
    Take a look at it, make sure it doesn't have any rust spots and has no obstructions. Other than it not fitting properly, it won't cause any harm. It doesn't replace or relocate any sensor equipment, so you should be fine.
  • camshaft1camshaft1 Member Posts: 35
    the filter is brand new in the box. i'm ordering and haven't seen it yet. either way it's supposed to be made for the m3. i guess my questionis there any difference between a name brand and a generic if everything fits?
  • arkie6arkie6 Member Posts: 198
    That kit probably uses a K&N filter element. Maybe not, but I bet that it does. If it doesn't then I might be a little concerned with its filtering ability. K&N has a pretty good reputation. I would want to use something that was proven if I was putting it on the intake of an M3, considering the investment that it is protecting.
  • camshaft1camshaft1 Member Posts: 35
    the ad. says that it uses a k&n "style" air filter. plus, i'm worried about the chrome pipe and if that makes a difference. it's supposed to be a cold air intake but i'm thinking that the chrome would retain so much heat from the engine not to mention it doesn't come with a filter sheild. is the sheild really needed. i read somewhere that it robs power if you don't have one. didn't find out why.
  • judasjudas Member Posts: 217
    If the air filter is just sitting in the middle of your engine compartment unprotected and isn't isolated then it will rob power because it's going to be sucking in hot air from the engine compartment.
  • camshaft1camshaft1 Member Posts: 35
    it sits in the left hand corner of the engine compartment pointed towards the grill.
  • 300michael300michael Member Posts: 1,815
    If it is sucking the hot engine compartment air, you are not gaining all the benefites. You want the filter to get cooler outside air.
  • camshaft1camshaft1 Member Posts: 35
    has anyone ever heard of an akimoto air intake? plus, what is the difference between an air intake system and a cold air intake system. they all look the same to me. cone filter with bent tube. wassup?
  • 300michael300michael Member Posts: 1,815
    Yes, to answer your first question.
    An "air intake system" is a general term. All vehicles have an air intake system.
    As to the term "cold air intake system" it simply means that the air filter is located where it sucks in cooler outside air, instead of hotter engine compartment air whick can be 100 degrees hotter then the air outside the vehicle. It is better to have cooler air going into the system. I believe you loose 1 hp for every 7 degree rise in air temp. If you check out magazines like Sport Compact Car you will see places that carry the Akimoto air systems and filters. If you have a Japanese car you are in luck, since they don't make many for domestic vehicles.
  • jeffmaxse2kjeffmaxse2k Member Posts: 38
    Been debating if I should or really if i need to upgrade my airfilter for my SE. The new exhaust configuration already boosts power over the 99's from 190 to 222......A) will a K&N make any difference in power or mileage or B) should I go with Amsoil or somthing along that line or C) Stick with the 8 dollar Nissan filter as all the new gee whiz bang features in the Max's computer are going to counter act any mods made to it...
  • vac23vac23 Member Posts: 118
    A filter alone will not boost any noticeable hp. The only thing you'll probably notice is a low moan coming from the engine and better responsivness. If you want to boost hp, get a cold air intake & a cat back exhaust. That combination should increase hp a bit.
  • dpage35925dpage35925 Member Posts: 45
    I just purchased a 2001 Jeep Wrangler with the 6 Cyl. I'm wondering if I should replace the reg filter for a K&N Air filter. Will I get better Hp and fuel economy.
  • umchand2umchand2 Member Posts: 7
    I have a 2000 Hyundai Elantra and would like to know if they make it for my car. Does anyone know of any "good" sites where I can e-mail and ask them. I emailed the offical site and never received a response back.
  • vac23vac23 Member Posts: 118
    try www.performanceproducts.com I was able to find a filter for my car there even though the local parts store counldn't
  • feilofeilo Member Posts: 128
    Installed a FIPK for my '93 SW2 about a month ago and felt the difference straight away. Better responsiveness and engine runs "slower" (lower rev's) at speeds e.g. 2800 after FIPK vs. 3000 b4 FIPK at 70 mph (where legal of course ...). Got the kit mail order from Summit Racing and got good service and a good price.
  • edwardh1edwardh1 Member Posts: 88
    Has there been any independant third party testing of the filters?

    I have never seen any - just hype.
  • bheplerbhepler Member Posts: 101
    I've seen some magazines do before & after dyno runs compared to stock filters (showroom stock engines). 3 hp or so.

    feilo - you might want to check that again. Your engine's rpm at a given speed is determined by your gearing, not by your air filter.
  • alingaling Member Posts: 598
    Hey guys,

    Have a look at this article: http://www.escribe.com/automotive/european/mbmc/m7971.html

    Any comments?
  • bheplerbhepler Member Posts: 101
    Did you read that last paragraph? They were going through four filters PER WEEK on their vehicles. What kind of environment do these things run in?

    I think it was fascinating, and it raises some good points. I think there were some bogus conclusions (not the overall suitability of the K&N for his company, I'm referring to the death of his company car) but it certainly gives one food for thought.
  • alingaling Member Posts: 598
    I believe it was a major mining/construction company using numereous multi-million dollar earthmovers and trucks, as well as pickup trucks and cars.

    Food for thought is right...I was going to invest in the K&N filter, but after reading this, and from what MB (and their head mechanics) have told us, I think I'll retrain from my purchase. A couple of extra hp is not worth the long term damage to the engine, IMHO.
  • enigmaoneenigmaone Member Posts: 128
    I don't like Conical open air K&N filters because they suck in too much hot air from the engine bay. During the summer months, this actually causes a major power loss on 6-cylinder+ cars.

    I had a HKS Super Power Flow(looks like a green mushroom) filter on my 96 Probe GT. Then I installed a K&N open air conical filter. Both gave good and noticeable performance gains on cool days. But when the temperature went up, performance tailed off.

    I then installed a Cold Air/Ram-Air intake from PRM with a enclosed conical K&N filter. This worked great!! even in hot/humid weather, almost no power loss was felt, plus because of the Ram-Air effect, on cool days/cool nights I could even feel more power being produced.

    These were all noticeable gains. Took my car sometimes to the track on cool nights. with the K&N Conical filter on a cool, not very humid spring night, the best I could manage was between 7.2 to 7.5 seconds.

    After installing a PRM about a year later, the 0-60 numbers went down into the 6.8-7.1 range. And these were consistent numbers, with 3 runs on 3 different nights.

    of course the negative of the Cold-Air/Ram Air setup is that you are more likely to ruin your engine if you keep your foot on the gas and drive through puddles or snow piles. I almost blew my engine after driving in snow. The whole pipe from bottom to top was filled with snow, and in the PRM filter housing, the snow turned into a chunk of ice. Basically it wasn't letting any air through and as the ice slowly melted, water was seeping through the filter and after I cleaned the system out, I found traces of water in the throttle body, and Air mass sensor.

    And you do have to clean these filters often, as they do get dirty. The K&N on average, I cleaned once every 2-3 months with the K&N cleaner and conditioner. The PRM I have to clean about every month because it sucks up leaves and debris like a vacuum cleaner.
  • bheplerbhepler Member Posts: 101
    You said that you went to the track and got between 7.2 and 7.5 seconds after the K&N...

    Huh? I presume you mean 0-60 mph, but no track that I know of measures 0-60 mph. Time to 60' mark, yes, but not to 60 mph. Where were you running?
  • vac23vac23 Member Posts: 118
    Didn't someone on this post posted a response from K&N stating that they don't manufacturer filters for commericial applications?
  • camshaft1camshaft1 Member Posts: 35
    does anybody know where i can find a heat shield for a 95 m3 bmw. i just bought a k&n cold air filter but i know these things are almosr useless unhless you sheild them from engine heat. i saw one a MKautosports.com for a hundred bucks. i only paid 66.00 for the filter with hardware. they have a new one comming out that has an inlet for the original ducting (with some cutting) for 180.00. there has to be a better source somewhere or is that the going price? i haven't really found anybody else who sells the sheild seperatly for this car either.
  • eclipsegseclipsegs Member Posts: 66
    I had a AEM intake setup in my 98 Eclipse GS w/ a Powercore exhaust and it sounded excellent! I know the power increase wasn't extensive, but it was noticeable. I installed the intake first to see what if any differences I could notice. The sounds from the new aluminum tubing was fantastic.
    I could literly hear the rush of air entering the piston chambers.

    Anyway, I'm selling the parts now so if anyone is interested, check this link out http://www.eclipseworld.com/
  • camshaft1camshaft1 Member Posts: 35
    i don't know if anybody is interested but, found a heat sheild for my 95 m3 at ECIS. it work fine and it only cost 70 dollars. your cone cold air filter is kind of useless without one.
  • kyleknickskyleknicks Member Posts: 433
    i went to ame's dept store yesterday and picked up 2 Fram air filters for $9 and popped one right in. even if i have to change them every 10k miles, it beats paying 50-60 dollars for a K&H and not notice any proformance change. just get the air filters when it's on sale.
  • mississaugamississauga Member Posts: 1
    Anyone know where I can get a manual for a built-in cell phone in my 1995 Lincoln MK VIII? Getting a runaround from Ford and Motorola.

    Thanks
  • denniswadedenniswade Member Posts: 362
    Call K&N -- they may be able to help you! :o)
  • sccarguysccarguy Member Posts: 8
    I don't know where you live, but down here in the Deep South, the air-intake kit might actually be decreasing your HP. The air at a few inches off the asphalt in summer will be, I don't know, 10-15 degrees hotter than the air at the stock air intake level. Since the kit depends on drawing cooler (and thus denser) air in order to get more HP, you'd actually be getting hotter (thus less dense) air, and thus a slight reduction in HP. Dyno results do not always equal real-world results, for many reasons. (Of course, my theorizing here may be totally off as to your situation).

    >>>I have had the K&N air intake kit with re-useable filter for my '94 Camaro Z28. It is supposed to add 15-20 horsepower, but if it does, you cannot feel it. I would not waste the money if I could do it all over again.<<<
  • gnolamgnolam Member Posts: 4
    I have purchased and installed a K&N air filter as a replacement for the stock air filter simply because it last for 50,000 miles before cleaning. However, I have heard that K&N filters allow more dirt to pass through potentially decrease the life and the effectiveness of the engine. Is this true?
  • 300michael300michael Member Posts: 1,815
    The simple answer is yes. It is the price you pay for performance.
  • philly7philly7 Member Posts: 94
    I am looking for a high performance air intake system to replace the stock unit in my 2001 Cadillac Deville DTS. I have tried K&N but they don't have an application at present. I wouldn't mind starting with the filter, but a larger air box/filter housing would probably yield more power.

    Any ideas would be appreciated
  • mccuetsmccuets Member Posts: 1
    I just installed a K&N air filter on my '90 Q45. When I started it, the exhaust was smoking black and the idle was very rough. I thought that the smoke was from the oil in the filter and that it would correct after a couple of miles so I took it out. It got worse so I aborted after about five miles. Now I'm trying to figure out what happened. Maybe screwed up the air/fuel mix??
    Anyone have an opinion?? Thanks!!!
  • 300michael300michael Member Posts: 1,815
    Did you possibly over oil the filter, if you did it will affect the Mass Airflow Sensor, and could cause this problem. Was it a replacement type or a cone type? If it was a cone type you also (on some cars) might have disconected some of the emitions controls.
  • lpranallpranal Member Posts: 1
    i just got a k&n air filter for my sunbird 2.0 turbo. The first thing i noticed was a change in noise; it went from a idle-ish kind of noise to more of a droning noise...got a little quieter overall. This might be due to the fact that the old filter was filthy. There seemed to be significantly less turbo lag, and the boost pressure was consistent (even a little higher). Unfortunately i dont think i can fairly rate the performance since i discovered the valve cover gasket blew and oil started leaking pretty bad. Im going to reseal it tommorow and hopefully be back in top shape. I wonder if somehow the sudden added power could have made the engine operate TOO effectively , and the car wasn't "used" to this. just a thought
    if anyone can email me with help it would be appreciated
    dedrosl5@uwc.edu
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