My H/Ls are 205/70/15; I wasn't convinced that going to a different size would give me any tangible benefits. As a general rule, first-generation CR-V owners have roughly an inch in diameter for possible size increases; exceeding this significantly increases the likelihood for rubbing/clearance issues. (You still might if you take the inch increase, then need to add tire chains for snow.) As for width, intermittent rubbing problems begin at 235. I don't know what possible changes were made for the wheel well sizes for 2002, although I know at least one 2002 owner who already dumped his factory tires for Michelin LTX M/S in 225/70/15.
The diameter of the stock tires is 26.3". I do not foresee any problems with 215/65/15 or 225/60/15 as far as simply fitting is concerned.
suvshopper: Check out http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/suv-02.htm . The CR-V is among the leaders in the fuel economy rankings, and no other gas-burning SUV can boast an "8" on the emissions scale at this time.
The gas mileage is just percentage points behind the leading RAV4. All of the other competitors in the Small SUV category emit roughly TWICE as much smog-causing pollutants as the CR-V. (If you study the site further, you'll see that the emissions scale is not linear.) And one Aztek emits the same pollution as three or four CR-Vs. It's no contest in my book, and a wonderful achievement for Honda. In this category, the previous CR-V was squarely in the middle of the pack among its competitors a couple of years ago.
Yeah, I'm not sure I like how that chart interprets the data. As explained here, the EPA's "star ratings" do not reflect an average or combined score of gas mileage and emissions. Rather, they apply a rating that reflects whichever category the vehicle perfoms least impressively in. So, because the CR-V burns roughly the same amount of gas as its peers, it gets a similar rating as its peers, completely ignoring the outstanding emissions results.
Want to see an extreme example of this thinking in action? Check out the small car rankings and see where the diesel VW New Beetle ranks. From a fuel consumption standpoint, it's a class leader. But it ends up as a "one-star" car solely due to its tailpipe emissions. Before relying too much on just scanning the star ratings, I think each consumer should decide on his/her own how they would weigh emissions and/or fuel economy in their search for a "green car."
The hybrid Civic looks interesting, and it's far more useful than the Insight. Ford will have a hybrid Escape out soon, too, so that along might convince Honda to do a hybrid CR-V.
But buy it for the range and green scores, because it takes a decade to recover your costs. Perhaps there should be tax credit incentives to offset the higher price?
Daveghh - Actually the "II" stands for Tier 2 standards. It has to do with the progressive decrease in tailpipe emissions and how the ratings are changing. The CR-V is a categorized as a Bin 5 vehicle with an LEV rating by the Tier II standards.
With regard to the link that Slugline provided, folks should also look at where the vehicle is available. For example, the Aztek that SuvShopper4 mentioned is only sold in five states. Everywhere else in the USA, it ranks lower (still not bad, but lower). The PT Cruiser and Durango are other examples. This is due to extra equipment (or possibly tuning) specific to those states. The CR-V and most others are rated the same regardless of where they are sold.
At the moment, the CR-V is ranked at the top in all configurations. It's the greenest 2WD and the greenest 4WD. But there are 2WDs which are ranked higher than the 4WD CR-V due to higher fuel efficiency. Most recent designs are LEVs, so it'll be interesting to see how many take it a step further.
17 mpg! That's well below the advertised range. I don't think It's where or how I drive because I've driven many other cars over the years (Ford Escort, Plymouth Voyager, Toyota Corolla) and they all performed within their 'range'. I love the car, but I'm beginning to feel I should have bought something with a larger engine and I would have better performance and the same gas mileage.
I got 19 mpg on my second tank of gas on a route that I use to get 15 mpg with my 98 Explorer Sport.Now on my third tank I'm making an effort to not accelerate hard and let it shift at 3000 RPM.The traffic volume greatly affects MPG cause any time you stop your mileage goes down.If anybody knows I'm curious.Does exceeding the RPM where torque is maximum waste gas?
You'll probably get your best mileage shifting at about 3000rpm. Just don't stress the engine by trying to climb a steep incline at 2000rpm. Use that torque.
17-19 mpg does sound low, but it might get better as they break in.
We have 3 kids under the age of 4 and a 2002 Odyssey for our main driver. I'm looking at a 2002 CR-V for second car, with AWD for occasional winter skiing trips.
Can you fit three carseats in the back seat? Is the 5-speed manual in the CR-V EX AWD good? What kind of fuel economy are people seeing with the 5-speed manual? Is the cloth upholstery easy to clean after spills? Is it durable?
The 5 speed is nice. It is fun to drive and is very smooth shifting. Be aware that you are giving up arm rests, the front cup holder, and the lower storage compartment if you get the 5 speed.
I just got back from a 1,300 mile trip and got between 23 & 24 mpg - mostly highway driving at around 75 mph. I was a little disappointed and hope that improves as I get more miles on the V.
We had leather installed so I can't offer any advise on the cloth seats. Regarding seating capacity, I can tell you that we made the aforementioned trip with 8 & 15 yr. olds in the back seat and the cargo area fully packed (could explain the gas mileage). We didn't feel cramped in the least and the V seemed plenty responsive on the road. However, I don't think I would like to make that trip with three kids in the back seat.
hey all, i'm in houston, live real close to the sharpstown honda dealer on bellaire i think it is. what kind of deals have you been getting? i got quotes around january for around 21500, and i just got a new quote for march for 22750 (the sticker i believe). Has anyone dealed with Moon at the dealer? thanks for the input.
I just signed the papers tonight for a '02 EX Auto at Gillman Sharpstown. I was quoted $21639 on Feb. 12 and ordered it - arrived Mar. 14 and I will pick it up Mar. 15. They stuck to the deal even though the salesmen told me that they were now selling all CR-V's at sticker. Dealt with Pat Paterson or Sal Garza (I think that is how his name is spelled). Good experience so far.
Question - I have to go out of town Sat. Mar 16 - will it be alright to drive it on the highway with so few miles?? Have to drive to Dallas and back on Sunday - about 250 miles each way. What speed should I drive? What things should I look for if this is too hard on the engine at this stage of its 'life'?
I fit 3 child seats in the back of my Forester, so I'm sure you could get it done. I had a photo but PhotoPoint went under and took my annual fee with them.
My suggestion is to take the 3 seats with you and try to install them. If the dealer isn't willing to help, he doesn't deserve your business.
I think this could be done. I have one in the middle position right now and the seat belt latches for the side positions are accessible with the seat in the center. I suggest you put the narrowest child seat in the middle, though, as it is going to be a tight fit for three seats back there. For caparison, I have more room on the sides of the seat in the center rear position on my 2000 Accord Sedan than the new CR-V. I don't know the statistical numbers on seat width, but the new V gives up 2-4 inches to my Accord in rear seat width.
Purchased an '02 silver EX last night and wanted to share my dealer experiences. Called and visited nearly every dealer in the greater Seattle/Tacoma/Everett area and found most of them asking MSRP+ $500 to $3000. Bear in mind I only wanted a silver EX automatic and was not willing to accept any other color or trim.
Bellevue Honda - decent pricing, MSRP, but really really really long wait, 45-90 days for the specific car I wanted. Next.
Renton Honda - emailed their internet guy and received a quote for MSRP+1000 if ordering ahead; MSRP if one arrived without being presold. They had a white and blue one over the past 3 weeks at MSRP, but it wasn't the car I was looking for.
Hinshaws Honda in Auburn - stay away. Pricing not bad - MSRP+$500 to MSRP (depending on the tides, hour, moon cycle, etc...) but they jerked me around and I did not like how I saw them treat another customer in the showroom floor. Called me up a few days ago and said "we have a silver, at MSRP". After waiting for 10 mins in the showroom floor while several salespeople chatted, I worked with a guy, he took my MSRP offer to the salemanager who said no, MSRP+500. So I basically wasted an hour+ of my valuable time, left work early to boot, on the premise that they would sell at MSRP, then they changed the terms after getting me there, showing me the car, etc... I assume they were thinking that I'd purchase on the spot at the inflated price after seeing the car. Uhhh no. Heard a pitch that same night about leasing to an older couple as well - bottom line is they don't have many ethics imho and don't think much of their customers.
Honda of Fife - horrible experience with them a few years ago, I didn't even give them a chance. Stay clear of them, their sales manager is a worm, many of their salespeople are no better, and typically they won't deal from their MSRP + $$$$ "added market value" crap. Stay waaaay away from these guys. Can't say this emphatically enough.
Which leads me to my success story -
South Tacoma Way Honda
I purchased a new CRX in '91 from the now sales manager - Preston Glaude. My wife and I purchased an '01 Odyssey from them last year at MSRP, had to wait a few months but were treated very well at the time by our salesman - Jason Oswald. They matched the phone quote from Hinshaws (MSRP) and reserved my silver EX without taking any downpayment. In the interim between placing my order and yesterday, they took 3 more orders for silver EX's. They most likely could have sold my car for MSRP++++, added a bunch of options, etc... and made me wait longer, but they chose to honor the deal, without taking a downpayment, and had the car prepped and ready to go the day it arrived. They didn't charge extra for detailing it, unlike ALL the other dealers I spoke with. They did not make me purchase any accessories that I didn't want (took the mudguards and sunroof visor btw). Price was 22900 + tax.
Bottom line is its your money folks, do business with a dealership that recognizes the fact that they need to EARN your business, not the other way around. South Tacoma Way Honda exemplifies this philosophy, I unconditionally recommend them, specifically talk to Jason Oswald.
Did you try Klein Honda in Everett? I've had good success getting high demand vehicles for less than MSRP there in the past (98 was the last time), but the staff is ever changing so it may be different now.
I just got my CR-V EX yeserday. I found when I accelerate, sometimes I can feel a little pull back when it change gear. Is it normal or there are something wrong with the transmission?
I was in Winston-Salem, NC today to get my wife's SUV serviced. I looked at the local paper while waiting and saw Flow Honda advertising a 2002 CR-V lx for $18,995. This is the first time I have actually seen a published price in the paper. It didn't say how many - just said new models arriving daily.
Me - I'm just looking around now. I might be more interested after: 1. I see some crash test data. (Guess they don't want to pay retail to crash one!!) 2. The base lx - no options - drops to a fall closeout of $17,999. Anybody think that will happen?
About Mid December, we went first to St. Johns Honda in Portland and thence to most Portland Metro Area dealers. St Johns quoted us MSRP with about a three month wait for a Mohave Mist EX. He offered about $1000 over low book for our '98 Sonoma Pickup. I tried them at invoice +500 but they said sorry, this is a high demand vehicle and we won't go below MSRP ($22740). I got a written quote from Dan Barney, sales manager, (took about 20 minutes) and he said we could call back within a week and the price would be good. After enduring the usual shuck and jive from, Ron Tonkin Honda, Hannah Honda, Sterling Honda (Longview) and Beaverton Honda we called Dan and ordered the car. All other dealers were from $1500 - $3000 over MSRP and low balled us on trade. He told us he had a Red EX arriving about Mid February and we could take that one if we wanted. We happened to see a red EX on the street, liked it and called and agreed to take the one arriving in Feb. We had the following equipment installed: Moon Roof Deflector -$99; Front Mud Guards - $59; Door Edge Guards - $95: Retractable Cargo Cover- $179; OEM Trailer Hitch with wiring $261. We also purchased the 7 year 100K ($1070) warranty as this will be a low mileage longterm tow vehicle behind our motor home. Total price was $24533. We took delivery of the EX on Feb. 7th and I have to say that was the most satisfying vehicle purchase I have ever experienced in over 40 years of car buying. St Johns Honda will have a repeat sale in about 2 years when we off our 99 EX Accord. For a straight up deal, call Dan Barney at 503-286-8813 or go to www.stjohnshonda.com. About 3 weeks after we made the deal, we had 2 calls from dealers we had visited offering a little better price and chipping away at St Johns but nothing worth worrying about.
I haven't seen it first hand, so I'm wondering if the "black" interior is truly black. From photos I've seen, it looks similar to the gray of my '95 Civic sedan. Is it?
Also, how many 5-speed CR-V's is Honda producing for the U.S. annually?
Thursday I picked up my new Mohave Mist 2002 EX L. My version (Canadian version) has leather, color keyed bumpers etc. I got front mud flaps and the wood accent kit. Both the interior and exterior have a refined look. I have had it for three days and not experienced any of "the problems" so far. It came with the Dueler tires and I do notice extra road noise compared to my replaced 99 Accord EX V6. I plan to purchase separate rims and Michlin Arctic Alpins for next winter as our winters and road salt are hard on alloy wheels. I am satisfied with the performance and like this little suv very much. We also own a 98 Civic Ex and it has been perfectly reliable with only gas and oil. 104000 kms and still has original brakes. Hondas are the best vehicles we have ever owned.
I did not get an extended warranty because my previous Honda I put 64k miles on it before trading it and nothing went wrong.Is it because I had an extended warranty?Owners of older CRVs have you had anything go wrong after 3 years?I expect problems after 100k miles but I haven't kept a car that long except an 82 Accord which had an electrical short.AAA says you should not get an extended warranty till the factory one gets near to expire that way you aren't tying up money which could be better used.
I'm considering changing the Duelers. What harn is caused or benefit is lost by going with a normal all season sedan tire as opposed to a SUV styled tire? I will likely not go off road. Road performance and quiet & smooth are important to me. Would the MIchelin MX4 be a good tire for this vehicle? Which model of Goodridge tire is recomended? Thanks. Gerald
We've had our Honda CR-V since September, 1997 and have had nothing go wrong with it! So far we've logged about 40,000 miles. I test drove the 2002 CR-V today and will likely purchase it in the next couple of weeks. The dealer is selling them at MSRP, unlike the Odysseys which are "marked up" $1250. Has anybody been able to buy a CR-V for less than MSRP?
I know that 6,332 messages in this forum is a bit daunting but scroll back a few hundred messages and you will find lots of dealer pricing experiences related on the '02 CR-V. Lots of folks have posted the deals they are getting and from which dealer.
We purchased from a dealer in Oklahoma (you'll find lots of references to this dealer) for well under MSRP. A lot depends on where you are, how far you are willing to travel and flexibility on color or a willingness to wait. We've put 3,000 miles on our green EX and give it two thumbs up.
I test drove a manual and an auto. Thought the auto was too sluggish off the line, but deemed the stick acceptable, and more fun. I love the safety and mileage features. The leather dealer opt rounds it out nicely. Looking at the wheels, I can see why many want to upgrade. But that unstable diving motion when making even a marginally quick steering maneuver is a showstopper for me. Does anyone know what aftermarket work can be done to stiffen that up?
We'll be getting our 2002 CR-V EX next week and it will have the factory tinted windows. It looks at though "factory tint" can mean a number of different things depending on the make/model of your vehicle. I want to order all the Zaino products for it and am not sure what kind of window cleaner to get--i.e., theirs, which has a mild abrasive, or no abrasive cleaner. It says that unless you have a tint which is "sandwiched" inside the glass, you shouldn't use it--or ammonia based products either.
Does anyone know exactly what kind of tint the new CRV's have and/or how to take best care of it? I doubt it's any removeable film, but don't think I can tell on my own whether it's inside the glass, or if it's a coating on the glass.
Too much dive in the corners . . . compared to what? The old CR-V? Other similarly-sized SUVs?
Unlike, say, the Civic, the CR-V hasn't been a traditionally hot target of the aftermarket, and I wouldn't expect them to jump all over the 2002 model any time soon.
I bought my CRV Lx on the last Feb day for $600 below MSRP - it seems to be standard in many Bay Area dealerships.
My first tank gave me a little over 27 miles per gallon (mix of highway/stop-an-go)and I am happy.
My only issue is that the cruise control light tends to come on. While this does not cause problems and isnt annoying, just thought I would mention it.
for answering my post about Accord vs. CR-V. Tough choice, given price and content similarity. Still not sure yet. Jetta TDI wagon still in the mix. Will keep you posted.
I finally got my crv Friday. Been waiting since Feb.12. I had the dealer add the body side cladding and front mud gaurds on the silver. Looks GREAT!! I had to go out of town on Sat. so have put about 600 miles on it. Drove great. I've had none of the problems reported. The stereo is wonderful - really nice sound, highs and lows. I have a good sound system at home, and the crv speakers are really quite good. I listened to some classical music - the speakers did a very good job of producing sound. The road noise was not bad at all - I had expected it to be terrible from posts of other owners, but it is not. It does depend upon road surface - rough roads do make some difference, but certainly nothing that is unbearable. Strange how the same tire (factory Bridgestone) can have different opinions. I checked the pressure using my gauge and a friends - the dealer did not set it to 26 - but the two gauges gave different readings (about 5 psi diifference). The initial pressure was 35-40 psi, so I lowered it using my gauge (the lower reading) and will try to find another gauge to compare against. So the tires probably are not at the pressure Honda recommends. I found the ride very comfortable - it does rock a little on bad roads, but nothing beyond what I would expect for a SUV. I filled up twice - got a little over 24 mpg each time. Will have to see what all city driving gives. This is my first Honda - the fit and finish is surperb - all trim pieces fit like they should. It rides almost as good as a car. A wonderful suv. I am looking foward to many many miles and years with the crv.
mpgman: if you like the Accord and CR-V, what about something half way between the two, like a Subaru Legacy GT wagon? Not an Outback, the GT is a solid handler, with 55 series tires and very sporty tuning. Yet it still has AWD and 6.2" of clearance is pretty good. Sedan or wagon, manual or auto, $21k or so for starters.
Between the Accord and CR-V, I give the nod to the CR-V simply because the Accord doesn't come in a wagon bodystyle.
The catch with a TDI is finding diesel - not all stations have it, and at least where I live it costs more than premium does.
Good luck shopping. Buy what brings the biggest smile to your face, that is never the wrong decision.
Muckyduck - I forget what part of the country you're posting from, but check the events thread in the CR-V Owners Club. Then get yourself to one of them. It's a great way to get ideas from other owners and even win a few accessories (we're not just talkin' keychains, either).
We have one coming up in PA and another in CA. There is discussion about a midwest meet and our buddies to the north have something in the works.
Haven't posted for quite awhile. I'm thinking of trading in my '99 EX for a new vehicle and have been poking around the boards, so I thought I'd chime in here. No problems w/ my vehicle to speak of in 30K miles. A noise was coming from what we thought were the brakes. It turned out to be the rear 4WD coupling. The dealer changed the fluid and no more noise. That's the only issue we've had since we bought the car 3 years ago this month. Not bad. I dumped the Bridgestones that came w/ the vehicle 2 months ago and got a set of BF Goodrich Radial TA's. I tried a zero fitment upgrade. 235/55's. Much nicer all around. Tirerack recommended them. The Bridgestones were loud and wore out quickly. These new tires have good snow grip, are quieter, give my CRV a nice soft ride w/ improved handling. I like them quite a bit. We need a bigger vehicle. As a family of skiers, the CRV gets loaded up pretty fast. I've put on a big Thule box, but the small rear area means a 3 hour trip to NH or VT w/o any rearward view. So, I'm thinking of a Pilot. I actually considered a 2002 Explorer until I read the forum here based on "Exploder" owner's continuing problems. BTW, the forum was hilarious to read. The MDX would be nice, but too expensive for me. Don't know what else to consider. My wife and I like 5 speeds, so that limits us considerably in this class. I do like what Honda has done to the 2002 CRV, much nicer overall. I wish my 1999 was set up as nicely. However, the 2002 is probably too small as well.
I just bought a used '98 EX and want to add a roof rack for both skiing and bikes. I've seen some Honda dealer web sites where I can order the rack via mail. Any downside to this? Also, does the rack create much noise?
I was impressed, but frustrated that there appears to be a lack of these vehicles in my area. I contacted 3 dealers who were basically all out of stock. I sat in an EX that a salesman bought for himself. Nice truck....although my price range is more like an LX.
I see a 2WD model is made, but have not seen one anywhere. I don't need the 4WD but am afraid that resale down the road would be seriously hurt w/o the 4WD.
2 salesman told me these trucks are sold at retail, as soon as they roll off the truck. I refuse to pay sticker for any car, so I guess the CRV is off my list for now.
I also looked at the Toyota Rav-4....in a nutshell, it costs 2k more for a smaller engine, but it is more stylish. Salesman there also said no discounting is going on ( not that I believe him ).
The Accord lacks front lateral leg room, which I just can't understand given Honda quality everywhere else.
I am considering a Nissan Altima S, but the interior has a very "cheap plastic" appearance.
Can anyone tell me what the tool that has a hook on one end and a flat edge (like a screwdriver) is used for? I can't find anything in the owner's manual. There is the lug wrench, the plastic thing to help hold the tailgate open, the manual moonroof tool but what is that other tool for?
Just got back from Myrtle Beach with the family (wife, 4 yr old, and 2 yr old). I live in Ottawa hence the drive is about 17 hrs driving time one way. We have a 2002 EX 5 speed. Some might remember I was trying to decide between our CR-V or our 2002 Honda Accord SE 5 speed. My main concern with the CR-V was the low gearing, i.e., high revving at highway speeds plus the limited range. I am happy to report the CR-V was great on the trip. The high revving at highway speeds was not an issue (the engine is quiet and smooth). The limited range was a non-issue as well as it outlasted my wife's bladder! We were able to pack my golf clubs, luggage, and assorted kid junk with no problem. We also rented a car video setup (one that straps between the front seats) which was worth every penny. All in all the CR-V really surprised me by being so comfortable and competent for the long trip!
Now if the seat bushing parts would only come in to fix the blasted loose seat!
Can someone help.Does anyone knows if I place an order for an 2002ex and the wait time is 6weeks but I just got an quote from a bank for 4.9% for 5yrs,The bank needs the vin#,can the dealer provide the vin# with out the car beening at the dealer before time,cause the bank will not give the check without one.And I could loose the 4.9%
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The diameter of the stock tires is 26.3". I do not foresee any problems with 215/65/15 or 225/60/15 as far as simply fitting is concerned.
suvshopper: Check out http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/suv-02.htm . The CR-V is among the leaders in the fuel economy rankings, and no other gas-burning SUV can boast an "8" on the emissions scale at this time.
Appears the CR-V is ONE of the cleanest Small SUVs out there.
And look who's top of the charts for the Mediums - the much-loved Aztek!
Want to see an extreme example of this thinking in action? Check out the small car rankings and see where the diesel VW New Beetle ranks. From a fuel consumption standpoint, it's a class leader. But it ends up as a "one-star" car solely due to its tailpipe emissions. Before relying too much on just scanning the star ratings, I think each consumer should decide on his/her own how they would weigh emissions and/or fuel economy in their search for a "green car."
But buy it for the range and green scores, because it takes a decade to recover your costs. Perhaps there should be tax credit incentives to offset the higher price?
-juice
With regard to the link that Slugline provided, folks should also look at where the vehicle is available. For example, the Aztek that SuvShopper4 mentioned is only sold in five states. Everywhere else in the USA, it ranks lower (still not bad, but lower). The PT Cruiser and Durango are other examples. This is due to extra equipment (or possibly tuning) specific to those states. The CR-V and most others are rated the same regardless of where they are sold.
At the moment, the CR-V is ranked at the top in all configurations. It's the greenest 2WD and the greenest 4WD. But there are 2WDs which are ranked higher than the 4WD CR-V due to higher fuel efficiency. Most recent designs are LEVs, so it'll be interesting to see how many take it a step further.
That's well below the advertised range.
I don't think It's where or how I drive because
I've driven many other cars over the years (Ford Escort, Plymouth Voyager, Toyota Corolla) and they all performed within their 'range'.
I love the car, but I'm beginning to feel I should have bought something with a larger engine and I would have better performance and the same gas mileage.
Sport.Now on my third tank I'm making an effort
to not accelerate hard and let it shift at 3000
RPM.The traffic volume greatly affects MPG cause
any time you stop your mileage goes down.If anybody knows I'm curious.Does exceeding the
RPM where torque is maximum waste gas?
17-19 mpg does sound low, but it might get better as they break in.
-juice
Can you fit three carseats in the back seat?
Is the 5-speed manual in the CR-V EX AWD good?
What kind of fuel economy are people seeing with the 5-speed manual?
Is the cloth upholstery easy to clean after spills? Is it durable?
Thanks.
The 5 speed is nice. It is fun to drive and is very smooth shifting. Be aware that you are giving up arm rests, the front cup holder, and the lower storage compartment if you get the 5 speed.
I just got back from a 1,300 mile trip and got between 23 & 24 mpg - mostly highway driving at around 75 mph. I was a little disappointed and hope that improves as I get more miles on the V.
We had leather installed so I can't offer any advise on the cloth seats. Regarding seating capacity, I can tell you that we made the aforementioned trip with 8 & 15 yr. olds in the back seat and the cargo area fully packed (could explain the gas mileage). We didn't feel cramped in the least and the V seemed plenty responsive on the road. However, I don't think I would like to make that trip with three kids in the back seat.
Question - I have to go out of town Sat. Mar 16 - will it be alright to drive it on the highway with so few miles?? Have to drive to Dallas and back on Sunday - about 250 miles each way. What speed should I drive? What things should I look for if this is too hard on the engine at this stage of its 'life'?
My suggestion is to take the 3 seats with you and try to install them. If the dealer isn't willing to help, he doesn't deserve your business.
-juice
Bellevue Honda - decent pricing, MSRP, but really really really long wait, 45-90 days for the specific car I wanted. Next.
Renton Honda - emailed their internet guy and received a quote for MSRP+1000 if ordering ahead; MSRP if one arrived without being presold. They had a white and blue one over the past 3 weeks at MSRP, but it wasn't the car I was looking for.
Hinshaws Honda in Auburn - stay away. Pricing not bad - MSRP+$500 to MSRP (depending on the tides, hour, moon cycle, etc...) but they jerked me around and I did not like how I saw them treat another customer in the showroom floor. Called me up a few days ago and said "we have a silver, at MSRP". After waiting for 10 mins in the showroom floor while several salespeople chatted, I worked with a guy, he took my MSRP offer to the salemanager who said no, MSRP+500. So I basically wasted an hour+ of my valuable time, left work early to boot, on the premise that they would sell at MSRP, then they changed the terms after getting me there, showing me the car, etc... I assume they were thinking that I'd purchase on the spot at the inflated price after seeing the car. Uhhh no. Heard a pitch that same night about leasing to an older couple as well - bottom line is they don't have many ethics imho and don't think much of their customers.
Honda of Fife - horrible experience with them a few years ago, I didn't even give them a chance. Stay clear of them, their sales manager is a worm, many of their salespeople are no better, and typically they won't deal from their MSRP + $$$$ "added market value" crap. Stay waaaay away from these guys. Can't say this emphatically enough.
Which leads me to my success story -
South Tacoma Way Honda
I purchased a new CRX in '91 from the now sales manager - Preston Glaude. My wife and I purchased an '01 Odyssey from them last year at MSRP, had to wait a few months but were treated very well at the time by our salesman - Jason Oswald. They matched the phone quote from Hinshaws (MSRP) and reserved my silver EX without taking any downpayment. In the interim between placing my order and yesterday, they took 3 more orders for silver EX's. They most likely could have sold my car for MSRP++++, added a bunch of options, etc... and made me wait longer, but they chose to honor the deal, without taking a downpayment, and had the car prepped and ready to go the day it arrived. They didn't charge extra for detailing it, unlike ALL the other dealers I spoke with. They did not make me purchase any accessories that I didn't want (took the mudguards and sunroof visor btw). Price was 22900 + tax.
Bottom line is its your money folks, do business with a dealership that recognizes the fact that they need to EARN your business, not the other way around. South Tacoma Way Honda exemplifies this philosophy, I unconditionally recommend them, specifically talk to Jason Oswald.
Enjoy your CRV!!
Eric
I found when I accelerate, sometimes I can feel a little pull back when it change gear. Is it normal or there are something wrong with the transmission?
Thank you.
It didn't say how many - just said new models arriving daily.
Me - I'm just looking around now. I might be more interested after:
1. I see some crash test data. (Guess they don't want to pay retail to crash one!!)
2. The base lx - no options - drops to a fall closeout of $17,999. Anybody think that will happen?
Also, how many 5-speed CR-V's is Honda producing for the U.S. annually?
Thanks.
previous Honda I put 64k miles on it before
trading it and nothing went wrong.Is it because I
had an extended warranty?Owners of older CRVs
have you had anything go wrong after 3 years?I expect problems after 100k miles but I haven't
kept a car that long except an 82 Accord which
had an electrical short.AAA says you should not
get an extended warranty till the factory one gets
near to expire that way you aren't tying up money
which could be better used.
Gerald
We purchased from a dealer in Oklahoma (you'll find lots of references to this dealer) for well under MSRP. A lot depends on where you are, how far you are willing to travel and flexibility on color or a willingness to wait. We've put 3,000 miles on our green EX and give it two thumbs up.
$21539.00 ... not bad and i'm very pleased with this toy.
Steve
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Does anyone know exactly what kind of tint the new CRV's have and/or how to take best care of it? I doubt it's any removeable film, but don't think I can tell on my own whether it's inside the glass, or if it's a coating on the glass.
Unlike, say, the Civic, the CR-V hasn't been a traditionally hot target of the aftermarket, and I wouldn't expect them to jump all over the 2002 model any time soon.
My first tank gave me a little over 27 miles per gallon (mix of highway/stop-an-go)and I am happy.
My only issue is that the cruise control light tends to come on. While this does not cause problems and isnt annoying, just thought I would mention it.
The road noise was not bad at all - I had expected it to be terrible from posts of other owners, but it is not. It does depend upon road surface - rough roads do make some difference, but certainly nothing that is unbearable. Strange how the same tire (factory Bridgestone) can have different opinions. I checked the pressure using my gauge and a friends - the dealer did not set it to 26 - but the two gauges gave different readings (about 5 psi diifference). The initial pressure was 35-40 psi, so I lowered it using my gauge (the lower reading) and will try to find another gauge to compare against. So the tires probably are not at the pressure Honda recommends.
I found the ride very comfortable - it does rock a little on bad roads, but nothing beyond what I would expect for a SUV. I filled up twice - got a little over 24 mpg each time. Will have to see what all city driving gives.
This is my first Honda - the fit and finish is surperb - all trim pieces fit like they should. It rides almost as good as a car. A wonderful suv. I am looking foward to many many miles and years with the crv.
Between the Accord and CR-V, I give the nod to the CR-V simply because the Accord doesn't come in a wagon bodystyle.
The catch with a TDI is finding diesel - not all stations have it, and at least where I live it costs more than premium does.
Good luck shopping. Buy what brings the biggest smile to your face, that is never the wrong decision.
-juice
We have one coming up in PA and another in CA. There is discussion about a midwest meet and our buddies to the north have something in the works.
We need a bigger vehicle. As a family of skiers, the CRV gets loaded up pretty fast. I've put on a big Thule box, but the small rear area means a 3 hour trip to NH or VT w/o any rearward view. So, I'm thinking of a Pilot. I actually considered a 2002 Explorer until I read the forum here based on "Exploder" owner's continuing problems. BTW, the forum was hilarious to read. The MDX would be nice, but too expensive for me. Don't know what else to consider. My wife and I like 5 speeds, so that limits us considerably in this class. I do like what Honda has done to the 2002 CRV, much nicer overall. I wish my 1999 was set up as nicely. However, the 2002 is probably too small as well.
Hammer
-juice
I see a 2WD model is made, but have not seen one anywhere. I don't need the 4WD but am afraid that resale down the road would be seriously hurt w/o the 4WD.
2 salesman told me these trucks are sold at retail, as soon as they roll off the truck. I refuse to pay sticker for any car, so I guess the CRV is off my list for now.
I also looked at the Toyota Rav-4....in a nutshell, it costs 2k more for a smaller engine, but it is more stylish. Salesman there also said no discounting is going on ( not that I believe him ).
The Accord lacks front lateral leg room, which I just can't understand given Honda quality everywhere else.
I am considering a Nissan Altima S, but the interior has a very "cheap plastic" appearance.
Now if the seat bushing parts would only come in to fix the blasted loose seat!