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I recently test drove a white/gray limited without sunroof. 2nd row buckets though. Truck was in FL.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Kit as it came. $120 delivered. Grey color is close enough to the Toyota Slate Metallic.
Connect positive to the reverse light which is a dark blue wire.
Connect negative to the white wire with the black stripe.
The factory sensor locations are easy to find because there are marks inside.
I am satisfied with how they look. They work as expected but I need to try them out in the real world to be sure how I like it.
In the end, car manufacturers offer different colors because owners have different tastes. If that weren't true then we'd all be driving "black" because Edsel Ford said you could have any color model-T you wanted....... so long as it was black.
As for the Red Rock interior, both my wife and I hated it, but we understand that people should have choices. The worst part on the Red Rock was seeing a true black carpet and interior panels. That should have been available as a stand-alone color.
The Sequoia wins on space since it has substantially greater interior space than the QX, there is simply more space in all 3 rows. This was the deciding factor for me.
I actually think the ride of the Sequoia is more comfortable than the QX which I found to have a more truck like ride than the Platinum I test drove.
The sound systems seemed comparable. The Xenon headlights go to the QX. The fit and finish of the interior goes to the QX. Much nicer.
Lastly is esthetics which of course is in the eye of the beholder. I find the Sequoia to be a much more attractive vehicle that the QX. To my eye the QX exterior appears cobbled together, almost like the designers were going out of their way to "unusually different". The B, C & D pillars look like they were each designed for a different vehicle. And the headlight placement is simply odd to my eye.
In the end I would have loved a Sequoia with the QX's interior however space can't be improved with aftermarket upgrades and it wasn't likely I would be happy over time with the smaller vehicle, so a Platinum Sequoia was the winner for me.
My impressions:
1. Much bigger than my 2001 Seq. The front hood is huge. There seems to be bigger blind spots but the side mirrors are also bigger.
2. Much more powerful with better acceleration.
3. The one I drove was fitted with 20 inch wheels. The ride was harsher than my 2001, but the handling was a bit better. The turning radius is noticeably better and it is easier to handle in tight parking lots.
4. The engine is louder. No wind noise on the freeway at 70 mph.
5. I like the dash layout. It is big but I am 6 2 and it is not a problem for me.
6. Less headroom with the sunroof but with the seat back and angled the way I like it still more than adequate headroom for me. There is noticeably less than the old sequoia.
7. The one I drove had fake wood trim on the dash. It looked horrible. They had 4 sequoias on the lot, all of which were fitted with the fake wood dash courtesy of Gulf States Toyota. Personally I would not buy one because of that.
8. Less room behind the 3rd row seats, but I usually leave out one of my 3rd row seats right now as it is, so for me being able to fold the 3rd row flat more than makes up for that. Getting into the third row seems to be much easier with the current seating configuration which slides forward rather than the prior flip and fold. Minivan is still easier though.
9. I like the styling better with the 2008 Seq vs 2001. I really was not a big fan of the front end of the 2001 anyway. They did something with the grill to make it better (can't remember what year). I also was not that happy with the dash but it was OK. I replaced all the electronics with an Alpine DVD/GPS system so it was not an issue.
10. Towing a 6000 lb boat/trailer with the 2001 seq was a bit too exciting for my likes and I am hoping the bigger engine with the 2008 will do better.
"this is just too small. If we were buying it for me, it would be perfect, but for the main haul the family to the beach vehicle, it would be too small."
I went back to the Toyota dealer last Saturday and purchased an '08 Platinum Arctic White Metallic with red rock interior. I have driven it for a week and approximately 700 and can say that the truck is awesome and has exceeded all my expectation.
1. It is only one inch longer and one inch wider than your '01 (I had an '04)
2. The engine and drive train are awesome, found myself merging onto the interstate last night at 90mph!
3. Mine has the 20's, I don't notice the ride to be any more harsh than my '04 with 17's. Turning radius is much tighter.
4. I had the Borla dual exhaust on my '04, so to me, the '08 is quieter.
5. I agree, most of the most used controls work from the steering wheel.
6. Can't comment on this, I only am 6 feet tall.
7. Mine doesn't have wood trim, can't comment.
8. I agree.
9. I also like the redesigned Sequoia better.
10. With over 400 ft-lbs of torque, towing anything should be a much more enjoyable.
Mack
Your first post would make a nice CarSpace Guide.
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Keep in mind those reading from rural parts of the country, that we have Toyota dealers like we have Starbucks in Florida- practically on every street corner .
She likes the idea of having the better chair (lumbar support) in the back for when she is back there with our son. She also likes the idea of the console for storage.
I am uncertain if the having the child in a captain chairs (on side of vehicle) is as safe as being in the center of the vehicle on the bench.
Can someone provide a pro/con list? I'm sure there are many things we are not thinking of....also, this would be our first SUV.
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We'd love to get captain's chairs and I can't even tell you why beyond the fact that they look nicer and classier and that we'll have easier separation of the kids in a couple of years. However, we're most likely/definitely getting a bench seat. Our thought is this....new baby gets the middle seat. 3 YO gets the passenger side bench seat. That leaves a the driver side bench seat for an adult or as our pass through into the 3rd row. We fully intend to use the 3rd row for adults and did not want to deal with the car seat issue and trying to fold captains chairs that already hold two car seats since we plan to keep our 3 YO in her car seat for at least another year or two before we move her into a booster seat. This is huge considering the console in the Platinum is not removeable.
Our final thought is just that it seems more practical to use the full size and versatility of the bench seat instead getting the captain's chairs for the wrong reasons (ie "the look"). After all, you're probably buying the Sequoia for the size of it.
Some of this obviously depends on how far down along the road you plan on another kiddo and how long you usually keep vehicles.
Just my $.02. Good luck!
Yes, this is the exact setup we use. I highly recommend it.
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I have had a Tahoe or Surburban since 1990. I have loved them and currently have a 2007. We feel the Sequoia is now a better choice. The rear seats on a Chevrolet do not function really well for getting in and out of the third row when you use it. We love the fold flat storage as we can put luggage in on our travels but have the seats for passengers when we get where we are going. Love the towing capacity and it drives very well with more power than the Chevy.
My son has a Titan and the parking and turning radius is so much worse than the Chevy or Toyota. There is no way I would consider the Infiniti or the Nissan. We have not cared for the service department with the Nissan. I wonder if there is a website that tells you the number of cars or suvs that have used the lemon law on each of these brands. I have had an associate at work that gave back her Infiniti on the lemon law.
I don't think there is one right choice because everyone uses there vehicle differently. I do think the sequoia is definitely a good choice. I wonder how many other long time Chevy owners will feel the same.
Happy New Year!
Long time Toyota owner that just bought a Suburban here! We needed the extra room the Suburban offers over the Sequoia, and yes we needed the price tag as well with a stay at home Mom.
We have a 1.5 year old and a 3.5 year old and we love the Captains chairs over our bench in our old 4 Runner.
Ever tried putting two siblings beside each other? It just didn't work for us. One wouldn't sleep when the other was playing and vice versa.
As stated before it depends what you are using it for. We personally like having through way access to the back seat. Plus if you ever take adults on a trip of an hour or more the captains chairs are awesome compared to a bench.
I think it also depends on how easy the 2nd row bench pops out for access to the 3rd row. In a lot of SUV's it seems the 3rd Row seat is ok for an adult once they get back there. However, they need to be a kids size to get through the second row to get there..
The most comfort in a 3rd row is with captains chairs to stretch your legs through the middle in my opinion.
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a 2007 or prior year Sequoia with the third row seats removed OR a 2008 Sequoia with the seats folded flat?
Secondly, how difficult is it to totally remove/replace the third row seats on a 2007 or prior year Sequoia? I would only being doing it once or twice a year.
Based on the Yukon Hybrid information, what might be the best gas mileage that a Sequoia Hybrid could muster?
What would be the towing limit implications if any?
Has anyone tried this and if so what would be the cost?
I have a 2001 Limited where I have removed the third row seats for a few years now. It is very simple, only takes a momment. If you had to, you could remove them and put them back every day without much difficulty.
I can't comment on your first question re 2008 space versus 2007 space but I am interested in the same thing. I currenty have my second row seats tumbled up and with the third row removed, have ample space for bikes, skiis, snowboard etc.
I am concerned about the available length and height of the space behind the front seats with the 2008 configuration compared to the older versions. I am also concerned about how level the arrangement is with the second row seats folded. It looks like the third row folds flat to the floor while the second row folds forward but is nowhere level with the floor. Our dealer will only get their first models in a couple of weeks so I have only seen pictures to date.
Hopefully this won't be a deal stopper for me as I would like to purchase the 2008 since my 2001 has 185,000 miles on it.
The 4WD has options for 2WD (best gas mileage), limited slip 4x4 High, limited slip 4x4 low (off road), or there is a button to lock the differential. Basically the best of all worlds. I think I remember reading that the limited slip mode was between 60/40 to 30/70 front/rear based on traction.
The SR5 has heated exterior mirrors (with the cold weather package).
The Moonroof (MR) and Rear Entertainment (EY) can be used together without problems.
The SR5 with all the options is the best value purchase.
The drive: With the power assisted steering, the turning radius, the beefy 5.7L engine, the smooth suspension, I think the designers wanted the Sequoia to feel like you were driving a car. It does. For better or worse you don’t get the sense that you are driving a 3 ton vehicle. I miss driving the BMW 330i which was so much fun to drive. The Seq is pleasant but nothing more.
I think it’s best to think of the Sequoia as a utility vehicle and not a luxury vehicle. When you need the space and want a really nice SUV for a relatively reasonable price, the choice for me was the Sequoia. Paying $10,000+ more for faux wood and prestige didn’t appeal to me.
I got the Cassis Pearl ext and the Graphite int. I really like the interior color and the exterior is really growing on me.
Like many other posters, I feel the color is to "orange" and too much. Have you seen the advertisement featuring the Chev Malibu LTZ interior (Jan/08 Motor Trend page 90 - 95)? What a beautiful interior and on a $26,995 car. I'm not sure what Chev calls the color but it could be described as R/R. Not quite as orange and lots of black. Only the seat "inserts" are R/R, not the entire seat. Also, the door and dash inserts have the R/R color, but to a lesser degree.
Perhaps Toyota could do a mid-year change and modify the R/R interior color accordingly? I wish they would as that's the color I would re-consider (see previous comment #710).
I will say that if a Slate Metallic Platinum had been available with an all black interior that would have been my first choice. I would have even considered the RR interior with a Metallic Slate exterior, however that combination is not offered. I think that both the light grey and light beige interior colors will eventually look dingy, particularly for those Sequoias that will be towing horse trailers, boats, campers, ATVs or transporting kid's sports team as there will likely be a fair amount of dirt tracked into the vehicle. Light colored carpets will not look particularly attractive after a few seasons of towing these "toys". I speak from first hand experience with a light colored interior on a Denali XL which shows the wear and stains on the carpet.
Consequently the Red Rock interior with black carpeting and black door panels with a Black exterior will have the sharpest look (IMO) and will still look sharp several years down the road when compared against other Sequoia's with a light grey or light beige interior. Just my $.02.
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If Toyota builds a Sequoia hybrid in the next couple years, I would be greatly surprised if its mileage is much greater than the Tahoe Hybrid. After all, it takes a lot of energy to push a 5000+ SUV through the wind at 60 mph. But that is just my speculation.
Here's a link to the truck and pictures of its Red Rock interior. http://james-toyota.ebizautos.com/shared/viewer.aspx?&iid=2482596&src=eBizAutos&- pid=1 The Red Rock leather seats are slightly different in the Sequoia from the Tundra since the Sequoia has perforated leather to accommodate the ventilated seats.