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2009 VW Passat CC

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  • I am getting a 2.0t sport and would like to have the Home Link installed. Has anyone had this done or even know if its possible to get done? It looks as easy as ordering a new sun visor with the Home Link installed. The wire harness is the only question.
  • 600kgolfgt600kgolfgt Posts: 690
    He followed the maintenance plan to a T and still had the sludge, outside warranty, low miles.

    Chances are:

    1) The dealer performed the oil changes using their oil (either the bulk 5w30 oil or a hydrocracked " (petroleum base stock) synthetic" oil which meets the minimal VW 502.00 spec).

    2) The owner changed the oil himself with a motor oil that does not conform to VW 502.00 or VW 503.01 spec.

    3) The owner didn't adhere to the 5000 mile oil change interval (went over the 5000 mile interval a few times.

    I have two 1.8Ts with 135,000 and 98,000 miles, respectively. No sludge. Not even a hint of sludge. Would you like to know why?

    Before I reveal the answer, see this link for a background of synthetic oils:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil

    Based on my nearly 30 years of VW ownership (as both a mechanic and a regular owner), here's my secret - I use Group IV (synthetic base stock) motor oils that are on the VW 502.00 list. The handful of VW 502.00 spec Group IV motor oils available in this country include:

    Mobil 1 0w-40 European Formula
    Motul 8100 X-Cess 5w-40 (My preferred motor oil)
    Elf Excellium NF 5w-40 (Formerly known as Excellium LDX)

    The newer VW 503.01 Spec Group IV motor oils (which your friend's GLI should have been using) available in this country include:

    Mobil 1 0w-40 European Formula
    Castrol Syntec 0w-30 (Bottle must say MADE IN GERMANY)

    All other oils on the VW 502.00 spec sold in this country consist of dino-based "Hydrocracked" Synthetics.

    I refuse to use the Hydrocracked Group III motor oils. Period. End of Story.

    Anyone who doesn't do the research and sweat the details on the oil isn't the
    "master of detail" that they appear to be..

    But don't take my word for it. I will gladly refer you to my colleague Shipo for his knowledgeable perspective on this topic.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,681
    4 seats because it's cool...like the CLS, CLK, 3 series, 6 series, A5

    not un-cool like the Accord coupe & Altima coupe

    I understand the reasoning...2 comfortable seats in the back as opposed to 3 uncomfortable ones, but I need 3 uncomfortable ones for small children :)

    I loved the CC (except the no nav with manual) but the 4 seats excluded it from my list...
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,724
    Well, the mercedes is just butt ugly! :( it really is in my opinion. Well, perhaps the car will sell like the EOS, with no real incentives on it. I would think the would need to offer something, as the current passat is not selling to hot. The same Passat I test drove last year 08 Spring, is still their on the lot. New.

    I love the CC too, my mom and I sat in one at a car show! Love how you sit back snug in the drivers seat. The leather felt so good. I could possibly get by without the 5th seat. But, I certainly won't pay over cost for one on a lease. Other cars will shine better on lease deals. Even the new Acura's out now are selling for amazing deals.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,681
    The dealer I spoke to about a month ago said they could offer under invoice.

    This was for a CC sitting in port (or just came in); base/manual.

    I don' think there is much room to go under invoice, but it certainly is a good starting point.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,724
    The issue now is that I am currently in a lease, and have been for one year. Spring always gets me thinking of a new car...lol. I am in a GM car, the reason I want out!
  • 5539655396 Posts: 529
    We test drove a CC VR6 2wd today. We owned an Audi 5000 at one time and drove a used A4 recently. Not fun cars IMO. We found the CC to be a pleasure. It handled, was sporty, very attractive compared to the ugly Passat. Well, maybe not ugly, but plain and boring. After the Audi and reliability on European cars in general, I swore I would never buy another. But I liked this car. My wife really liked it. There were two exceptions - road noise, and the 4600# weight. Yeow! Baby Phaeton? Not sure how it compared to others with large wheels and short sidewall tires though. They may all have their share. I noticed complaints about the ride. We prefer a sporty suspension. This was firm, but compliant, not harsh. I won't suffer harsh. Too old to put up with that. For us, it was just right for driving fun. We have an 03 Avalon, and replaced the struts with KYB GR2's and Energy performance bushings on the sway bars. HUGE improvement over stock, but those who don't like the CC suspension may not like that either, but my wife sure does.

    The one thing that bothers me is reliability. Not sure I want a first year car. My old room mate had an older Passat, and made sure it was long gone before the warranty ran out. One thing after another. How has the CC been? Have you owners had any problems? After a Toyota, I can't/won't live with that. What kind of real world mileage figures are you seeing?
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,681
    and the 4600# weight

    I think you mean 3600lbs...

    which is about inline with all 6cyl cars of this size (meaning too heavy :) )
  • 5539655396 Posts: 529
    "and the 4600# weight

    I think you mean 3600lbs... "

    Just quoting the salesman. I asked the weight. He guessed 3100. I said More like 3600. He found the label on the door post and said Wow. 4600#. We were both wrong. I didn't verify.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    The door jamb label gives the gross weight rating, which is the total allowable weight of vehicle plus passengers and cargo. Edmunds has the curb weight of the CC as 3300.

    kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
  • 5539655396 Posts: 529
    "The door jamb label gives the gross weight rating, which is the total allowable weight of vehicle plus passengers and cargo. Edmunds has the curb weight of the CC as 3300."

    Now that makes much more sense. More what the car felt like. At first the salesman couldn't find it and went in to ask, therefore I didn't question it, and we got off on something else. Thanks for clarifying it. It just didn't sound right.
  • Can anyone give me an honest answer on the milage they get from their new 2.0L T gas engine.
  • miamiccmiamicc Posts: 6
    the CC is a heavy car, so you dont get the same milage as say a passat or jetta which also bring the same engine. What I do with my CC is set the tripometer to zero. I get about 350 miles out of a full tank, which is 18 gal, so its about 20 MPG. Driving condiotions and styles affect how much you get out of it, and also the gas you buy, and how fast you drive. I use the cheapest gas and drive as fast as possible :) Hope this helps....
  • Thanks for the info...... just purchased my CC today cant wait to take delivery.
  • drmikkidrmikki Posts: 3
    Does anyone have information about the Passat CC TDI coming to the United States?
    Thanks in advance
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    I heard there are no plans for a CC TDI.
  • tonycdtonycd Posts: 223
    GolfGT, I've read up on BobIsTheOilGuy as much as the next person, and i'm at least superficially familiar with the issue of hydrocracked oils.

    From what little I know, I agree wholeheartedly that hydrocracked oil is clearly not as good as original synthetic motor oil, in either protection or durability. Granted.

    But as an EX-Volkswagen owner (with premature valvetrain wear that was later reported to be endemic to a whole generation of VW fours), and as someone who now has over 150,000 miles on a Japanese engine running with hydrocracked oil, I have to call foul. The specs for regular dino oil today are so good, any approved SAE oil should be able to keep you running well past 100,00 miles in any dependably designed engine.

    The notion that hydrocracked oil isn't good enough for the current VW 2.0 turbo is not an indictment of the oil, it's an indictment of VW's engine. I'm blown away that you've chugged so much Wolfsburg Kool-Aid you can't see that.
  • I have had a luxury w. tech package for a few weeks now. The one thing they really missed was giving you the option for a QWERTY keyboard on the satnav. My Garmins have that. Since I type a lot in business, it is a pain in the but to have to type in places in ABC format.

    Other than that, a a high number of errors in the manual, I'm real pleased.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,724
    Well VW is not GM, that is good, and I have leased 2 VW's and have not had any problems with them. I still have a new VW. Much older models have suffered some issues. It is now, the general public is still holding on to that old reputation. I completely understand that. I am the same way, before moving forward to a new model. You should have minimal issues, as the car is a new body style, but the guts of the car have been around for years. No car is ever truly perfect at some point in its life. Maintenance is covered though now!!

    The Passat was a car that I looked at too, and I loved the cobalt blue color, but the black interior with its weird seating, harsh feeling doors. It was sorta tacky. The Jetta interior is much more refined that the passat. The VW CC interior is more inviting and plush. The drivers seat is so comfortable. It sink right into it. Very contoured to your back and head.

    The VW CC has gotten great reviews, and you can blame the economy, because it seems to me you can get a fairly good deal on one. When normally they are so strict in price. I am thinking of getting one, but it only has 4 seats available.

    Best of luck! I think you will love the car! Looks classy, drives great!
  • danprtrdanprtr Posts: 25
    Did you find anyone (or anyway of) doing this? This one option they definitely should have included.
  • No. No one has had any ideas on this yet. I am working with my dealer on this issue as well and so far they have come up with nothing. I even tried the after-market route. I have seen on different web sites that it can be done with other models so I am guessing it can be done with the CC as well. There is a 2 wire harness for the vanity light in the visor which from what I understand on the homelink models there are 3 wires. The 3rd wire is for homelink that will only enable the door opener to work while the ignition is on. So if anyone has had any luck with this issue it would be great to hear from you. Thanks
  • ccownerccowner Posts: 5
    See if your garage door opener has a learning button, this is used when you replace you handheld openers that have the roving codes. is it does than after getting the home link in the car to learn the remote control signal, you then have someone sit in the car, and another person at the learn button on the garage door opener, this person presses the learn button, then within 30 seconds the person in the car press the home link button and the opener learns the cars home link signal.
  • ccownerccowner Posts: 5
    I just purchased a 2009 CC, and everything works great, except trying to download music to the 30G hard drive. I have tried multiple SD cards, yet the system responds with the same error message that "there is a problem with the card" I have purchased new cards, new CDs to no avail. The dealership has no clue either; does anyone have any idea or have had success downloading music?
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    Well here are some changes for 2010.

    The biggest change is one acronym. DSG baby! DSG will be available on 2.0T models. Bluetooth and a new non nav headunit are now standard. The 3.6 sport now gets dynaudio. I think the VR6 models now get Dynaudio standard. I did hear that homelink will be available on the 2010 models. Hope this helps.
  • VW's CC website lists this engine as award winning, but it doesn't include any other useful info. Does anyone know more about it? When did VW receive the "honor" for the engine? What is it about the engine that makes it a "standout?" ETC. Who issued the "award?"
    I'm trying to find out if this something to legitimately get excited about or if it is a bunch of hot air from VW.
    Thanks for any input!
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
  • sydbsydb Posts: 1
    Is it possible that the SD cards that you are using exceed 2GB? The manual, I believe, states that the SD card must be less than 2GB. Other than that, I can't think of what would be causing the error readout. If you require more than 2GB, buy a SD memory stick and download your music to it. You can plug the memory stick into the same cable that you would use to plug in your IPOD. This cable does not come with the car, but rather, must be purchased from your dealer. The part number is 000 051 446 C.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    The USB cable comes with the car. If you really need it then it would be part number 000 051 446 B. Thats for the USB cable. There is a mini USB cable part number 000 051 446 A. You can't rip from the MDI to the HDD. When using a USB HDD use FAT32 since the RNS-510 can't read NTFS.
  • ccownerccowner Posts: 5
    The SD card is on 2GB, the dealership actually brought in a factory rep. He stated that 2GB is also to large that it shoudl be 1GB or smaller. sounds like a cop out to me. the rep also could not get it to work and they tried other cars on the lot. so in thier defense they have ordered another media / radio from the factory figuring that may help. thanks for the information
  • danprtrdanprtr Posts: 25
    Hello, 2 weeks old and the passenger window stopped working. Stuck about .25" from top (position where the windows normally drop too, then raise upon opening/closing the doors). There is a faint clicking sound from the passenger door area when activating the switches on the drivers and passenger door but there is absolutely no movement.

    The window movement "feature" when first explained by the salesman made me wonder if all that extra movement would cause problems.
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