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HAVING SAME PROBLEMS WITH OTHER MANUFACTURERS HAVE 2009 TOYOTA VENZA RATED FOR 36 MPG, NOW WITH 22000 MILES ON IT, CAN ONLY GET 28 MPG ON INTERSTATE 75 WITH CRUISE SET AT 65 DURING THE SUMMER, IDEAL TEMPERATURES. TOYOTA CHECKED AND SAID IT IS WITHIN THE EPA PERAMETERS OF WITHIN 20 % OF + OR - GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE MORE SAY ON THIS FALSE ADVERTISING. ALL THE COMPANIES, IF YOU READ MANY REVIEWS, ARE POSTING HIGHER MPG THAN MOST PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING. MOST PEOLE SEEM TO BE GETTING ABOUT 20 % LESS THAN THE ADVETISED MPG (which by the way would be under ideal condition, forget winter calculations)
If she wins her small claims suit, the floodgates could open for a lot of people. But she has the advantage of being able to show that another court has found that Honda misrepresented buyers about the mpg they could expect to get.
Well, the Honda owner won her case; now she's waiting to see if Honda will appeal.
There's language in the fuel economy stuff that says you can't sue the government or the automaker if you don't get the EPA mileage ratings. So I was surprised that Honda lost (or settled) the class action suit in the first place But the basis of that suit was that Honda falsely advertised how much mileage you could expect to get. Plus Honda changed the software and made people's mpg worse.
I'm just loosely talking about the Honda case here - the Honda owner has a web page up with the "correct" details that may interest you.
And yeah, the sticker has the EPA numbers with fine print about the range of mpg you can expect to get. People naturally tend to focus on the big city/highway numbers I think and assume that they will get that mileage too.
It's too bad, because other than the mileage we love the vechicle.
The software update came in 2006, but the class action covered owners back to '03. Owners who had the update can get additional remedies through the class action suit. Word does get around, and it gets around faster and faster these days.
I have the same problem with the mileage. I have about 1000 miles and I average about 13-14 mpg. I have used the mpg indicator as well as the calculations when I fill the tank. When I took it to the dealership the mpg mileage indicator said 17.1. They went with me on a drive, but had me reset the mpg button at at stop light. It went up to 24.1. It worked out fine during that short drive, but it is decreasing steadily, as it usually does, and by the time I get gas, it will be at 13 mpg again. I filled the tank fully, and at this point, at just about a half tank, I have about 78 miles on it.
The dealership checked everything and there aren't any mechanical problems. I told them that I consider it unacceptable and I'm going back next week.
Btw, Kia is not the only car company that lies about mpg, Toyota does as well. My new camry advertises 35 highway...I've filled up twice since I purchased the camry 4 days ago...average of 42 mpg! Couldn't be more pleased.
i'm guessing that many if not most of those disappointed with the mileage of their sorento have owned a few cars and have a decent sense of how govt estimates relate to real world. in my experience the sorento under performs in this regard. it actually doesn't even get within the epa range. this combined with the way kia markets the car - leading with the 32mpg estimate, they are setting up buyers for a big let down. my kia isn't a bad car, but knowing what i know now, i'd not have purchased. kia is producing visually well designed cars that are cheaply made and cheaply sold. they correctly figured that there's good demand for a high mpg seven seater so they got one out there by hook or by crook. when favorable conditions align i briefly get 32 on the highway (new smooth highway, no wind, flat). otherwise i get low 20s.
WITH JUST 230 MILES ON IT I TRAVELED FROM NC.-PA., A DISTANCE OF 450 MILES. I AVG. 28.3 MPG GOING UP AND 30.2 MPG COMING BACK. I PLEASED WITH THE KIA. AROUND HOME I AVG. 23.4 MPG ON COUNTRY/CITY DRIVING.
I HAD A HONDA PILOT BUT IT WAS A LITTLE BIG FOR THE WIFE. SHE REALLY LIKES THIS VEHICLE.
KIA SEEMS TO HAVE DONE THERE HOMEWORK. I NEGO. A GREAT DEAL ON THE OTD PRICE.
I THINK DRIVING THE SPEED LIMIT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH GETTING GOOD GAS MILEAGE.
I really interest, which model you got ? 4 or 6??
Hows ur speed on hwy/free way.
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I love a big SUV, but the mpg is really hurt!!
Kia sorento is the only one I ""thought"" very good, but I really worried about the mpg that every "predecessors" said.
I have 2 days to make the choice.
I do know 25-26 hwy mpg for this huge SUV is really good, and I love the Sorento inside outside, too.
So, if the mpg is really really hurt, I may buy a prius V (wegan hybrid), or honda accord (not hybrid, but a huge car).
If you guys have any thought please tell me, I am a young new guy here.
thank you agian. Orz
I heard kia got around 23-26 mpg how about the honda CR-V
THE CONV. PKG. INCLUDES THE "GDI ENGINE, THE NEW 4 CYL. THAT IS SUPPOSED TO GET BETWEEN 22---32 MPG.
IF YOU DRIVE NORMALLY YOU CAN GET GREAT MILAGE.
THE EPA SUGGESTS THIS MILAGE BUT THE OPTIMAL MPG IS MOST LIKELY BETWEEN 50-60 MPH.
I THINK THAT KIA WILL BE PHASING OUT THE BASIC 4 CYL. SOON.
WITH JUST 240 MILES ON CROSSOVER I TOOK A 1000 MILES TRIP THAT AVG. 29.4 MPG. GETTING 23-24 AROUND MY AREA INCLUDING BACK ROADS/CITY DRIVING.
WITH THE MONEY YOU SAVE BUYING A KIA YOU CAN MOST LIKELY SAVE $5000 BUYING IT RATHER THAN THE PRIUS.
GOOD LUCK IN YOUR DECISION.