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Best of luck in your decision and enjoy the Wrangler, Jeepman!
Personally, the Jeep is the most enviromentally friendly car I've ever owned. My other cars, everything from a Monte Carlo to a Prelude, leaked gallons of oil (and transmission fluid, and steering fluid, and coolant, and freon, etc.).
More to the point, here in California there's talk -- and right now it's just talk -- that so many people are driving fuel economic cars like the Prius that the state is losing gas tax revenue. So, there's a plan in the works (drafted by the current head of the DMV I think) to enact a mileage tax. In other words, it won't matter how much or how little gas you use, but how far you drive. You'd pay as much as the guy driving the 8 cylinder SUV. And, you would get further penalized for driving during peak hours.
(Those of us living in L.A. know that "peak" hours are 24/7. I think there's a 15 minute window around 2 a.m. Sunday when the freeways move relatively well.)
The wrangler to me is like being in a very large extended family. Lots of waves and smiles its a great feeling and worth the extra few $$ a month in gas to drive for this alone for me...
Do what ya have to do and whatever ya drive be happy with your choice cuz its your hard earned $$$ being spent on the vehicle. While im trading my time for the $$$ i like to ride with my extended family, LOL...take care, Jeff
-Paul
It really erks me - I can't afford rents anywhere close to work, I can't afford mortgage payments anywhere within about 40 miles of work, and then they are going to tax me on my mileage because I finally found a house I could afford?! All of a sudden I wouldn't be able to afford to live at all.
It's always struck me as a short-sighted way for the state to grab some more of MY money, and the only people who win are the property management companies who will start charging ever higher rents.
Sorry to get on my soapbox, and to get back to Jeeps - I've been thinking of replacing the carpet in the '98 Sport. It looked to me like I'd have to take out the seats to get the front carpet out - is that so? The Unlimited's owners manual talks about taking the carpet out without removing the carpet. I was wondering if the current SWB Wranglers that have front carpet that could easily be replaced (thinking of getting that for a replacement, if possible).
-twylie
tsjay, "Jeep Wrangler" #1931, 10 Apr 2001 5:41 pm
Steve, Host
-Paul
tsjay, "Jeep Wrangler" #1931, 10 Apr 2001 5:41 pm
Steve, Host"
You beat me to it Steve!
Tom, you're never going to live that down. However, it's nothing to feel bad about. You're getting maximum fun from your Jeep, and you now have better health to enjoy it. A few marks in the paint and an empty ashtray are a small price to pay.
Congratulations!
:--)
Thelma Jane is still a great looking vehicle, and it has certainly provided you hours and hours of incredible enjoyment. Can't ask for anything better than that, can you?
Steve, Host
Here's a link to a pretty good article about the plan. They sugggest SUV drivers would pay more of a tax because their cars are tougher on roads. Wonder if that includes Jeeps?
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6529501/
BTW, I've never been waved to once in my Jeep.
It's good that it doesn't seem to bug you
-Dan
tidester, host
jeff
If no one has ever waved at you in your jeep,, its time for you to start the trend,, wave at every jeep you see,,
quote from embeeduece
Here's a link to a pretty good article about the plan. They sugggest SUV drivers would pay more of a tax because their cars are tougher on roads. Wonder if that includes Jeeps?
So they would put a tracking device and then I suppose you have to have a computer to store the info, and while it supposedly doesn't transmit your location back, at some point it would have to be downloaded, so they could tax you. Since it would report your location, it could conceivably monitor time also. That means they could not only tax you for your miles, they could also compute your speed and give you speeding tickets for any time you exceeded the speed limit. The enforcement options could go on and on. Yuck!
You Cali folks should protest in the streets if Mtngal's prediction comes true. How would that not be an invasion of privacy?!?!
It's none of the government's business if I drive 10 miles a week or 10,000 miles a week!
I realize that Cali has series traffic issues, but offer rewards rather than punishment.
-Dan
If you decide to protest, you can have a sing-in:
"Jeep is sponsoring a three-year initiative that starts Thursday to reteach Americans "The Star-Spangled Banner."
Oh Say, Can You See Automakers Getting Musical? (Inside Line)
Y'all wave now, ya hear?
Steve, Host
OK, so I used to be a little fanatic about Thelma Jane's appearance. Well, I got over it, didn't I? Now she gets in the mud and out in the bushes every weekend.
Like I have told you guys about those bugs that have hit Thelma Jane's grill... they didn't have the guts to do it again!
I enjoyed Thelma Jane more than any previous vehicle, even when I kept her spotless and drove her only on the pavement. Then, when I took her off road the first time and saw how much fun it was, I began to enjoy her even more.
To those of you who never get off the pavement, hey, that's OK. Jeeps are fun even just driving on the road all the time. I encourage you, though, to try off roading after some of the new wears off. It is an absolute blast, and you ain't gonna believe the places that Jeep will go!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Really impressive stuff is doable and it is SO much fun. Yes, I'm still paranoid about getting body damage, but there are way to protect yourself - Armor! I have some pics, but they have a logo of another site that probably shouldn't be posted. Let me know if you want to see them and I can try to point you to them.
-Paul
Aside to Tcmoose/Jeff; your emails continue to arrive empty.
Steve, Host
Stock bumpers gotta GO!!
Dunno If I should get double tubes or get some Smittybilt rock bumpers.?.?.? Leaning towards the rock bumpers but then i need a winch
Toys by Troy
Rokmen
Jeeperman
Hanson
M.O.R.E.
Big Daddy
ARB
Google is your friend and any of those bumpers would look great on your rig. Don't buy any bumpers from any of those Jeep catalogs...I myself am leaning towards Mountain Offroad's (MORE) "Hi Clearance" bumper.
Good luck!
She's drop dead gorgeous! Once again, CONGRATULATIONS!
Yeah, take those sissy plastic jugs off the bumpers, at least the front bumper anyway.
I'm not a fan of double tube bumpers, but she's YOUR Jeep, so do what YOU like.
Good luck with that baby!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Very sturdy, ready for a winch, and look good. Easy installation too. The TbT bumpers are VERY nice too, but for what I do, these made more sense and gave me the protection I wanted/needed.
-Paul
Anyone know what happend to its a jeep web site? its been down for some time....Tom? Ya know?
I have ben spending every spare diem on my new"used" jeep and loving it!
I have 30x9.5 on there with Canyons right now. See the pic above for what it looks like.
-Paul
Steve, Host
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
-Paul
Alloy is lighter on your Jeep, but costs more.
The bumpers on my TJ are powdercoated, as is the light bar. The rockers are Toys by Troy rockers and are VERY stout. They remind me of the AEV's and the Rokmen's. Adds a great look and great protection. Stu Olson has a write up on his website www.stu-offroad.com. That is what prompted me to get em.
My suspension is already sagging a bit after 98000+ miles. If it sagged, it didn't do it more than a 1/4 or 3/8". I plan to upgrade to an OME lift hopefully in a month or two, pending finance committee approval.
-Paul
It is a straightforward job, but if you don't have the right tools, or are a bit uncertain, better leave it to a pro.
Regearing both axles, yes you have to do both, can run over 1,000 easy if you have somebody do it. if you can do it yourself, you can take your time to be sure you did it right. I have no problems getting into my differentials to do it, but I have no clue what I'm doing.
You could probably join a local jeep club and find members who have done it already and would willingly assist you. You get to learn new stuff, get to meet fellow jeepers, and you get to save some serious $$ for other mods, like lifts and/or armor and/or tires.
Since you have an SE, you'd probably just jump up to 4.88 gearing. You have the 4.10 now, just like me. Going to 4.56 would be cost ineffective, but 4.88 would be a good choice if you want to run 33 or 35" tires. What is the final tire size you want? Anything less than 33 (32 and under) should be fine unless you do a LOT of highway with it.
Keep in mind, with 4.88's your RPM's will be higher and may lose more fuel efficiency with the gearing and tire combination.
-Paul
-Dan
Zach
Interesting story on Inside Line today, but somehow I don't think it really applies to Jeep mods too much.
Friends Don't Let Friends Modify Cars
Steve, Host
Have to admit I feel an empathy with Jack Lanier, the author of that article.
Pass me another pint of snake oil, will ya? Got more bugs to clean off the grill. :-)
Steve, Host