Well, it IS nice to have a button to do all that, not that I have one on the Wrangler.
The soft top does surprisingly well with hail. It is like a trampoline for it - up to a point. The multi-layered sailcloth is surprisingly strong. It gives MUCH better than the metal hood. Harriett, I wouldn't worry about it too much out there in LA. I would think it could handle up to just under golf ball size hail w/o too much problem. The windows on the other hand...
More importantly, as an Air Force retiree, I want to thank you for your service to our country. You and your fellow marines, soldiers, airmen and sailors are sincerely appreciated.
Would someone, probably Mac, be able to supply the factory torque spec. for the oil pan drain plug. Mine was in quite tight as last changed at the dealer. Thanks.
PS - a "case" of Quaker State oil now consists of 16 quarts. Picked one up today for $1.09 per quart plus a mail in coupon for a free $10 Shell gas card. Makes up, a little, for what the robber barons are charging.
Have you guys seen the 2006 Golden Eagle edition Wrangler? It's on the Jeep website. Nostalgic to be sure, but I might not be a fan of the gold rims. Here's my question: when do they bring back the Levi's edition?!
Welcome home, and thank you for serving our country. Glad you made it home safe.
Congratulations on the new Unlimited. It would be my pleasure to take you out for some wheelin', if you lived close enough to make it practical. Where are you located?
They don't exactly say which model they are basing it on. I'm not a big fan of the various packages they've come out with, except for the Rocky Mountain Edition, which I really like. This one would only be my cup of tea with the hood decal - otherwise it doesn't quite have the same nostalgic content. This is one where I'd like to see it in person before I made up my mind.
I think I almost made a silly mistake yesterday. I normally don't let my gas get below 1/4 tank (especially living in the "hurricane belt"), but I have been especially pressed for time this week. I drove my '05 Unlimited for about 15 miles after the fuel light came on and the chime sounded. Once before I had filled up after the light came on and noted that it took about 14 gallons to top off, which seemed to match with previous posts here. Yesterday, I pumped 17.39 gallons into my 17 gallon tank. Are others seeing more consistency with when the warning lamp comes on vs. remaining fuel?
I just bought a pair of Grizzly side bars for my 05 SWB. In the ad online it specifically noted that there was no drilling required, however upon receiving the bars yesterday the final step includes drilling a 1/2" hole for the final bolt to secure the front mounting bracket. Has anyone had to drill such a hole for and side bars? I am not afraid that I can't do it, I just don't want to introduce any weak points to my frame that might later become a problem. I am just wondering if the drilling is adviseable? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
You're probably ok, but here's the official line from the FSM:
"DRILLING HOLES Do not drill holes in the top and bottom of frame rail, metal fatigue can result causing frame failure. Holes drilled in the side of the frame rail must be at least 38 mm (1.5 in.) from the top and bottom flanges. Additional drill holes should be located away from existing holes."
It just seems like those seventies and eighties packages fit with the Jeeps so well. The last few Wrangler packages seem that they drove through Pep Boys with the crap magnet on (I stole that phrase from somewhere I can't remember, but it's applicable here.) And I 'ain't pickin on anybody because my first Jeep was an 89 YJ. Right in the "Le Jeep" Renault/Chrysler days. At least the, umm..."Islander" (sorry to bring that up) had special paint. This package seems to be stickers and a can of paint for the center stack. I actually do like the wheels, weirdly enough.
I don't discount all the packages as My Dad has a Grand special edition, and it works well. It was a package way to get lots of the luxury items on a Grand and not have to pony up for the v8 (he likes the 4.0 better).
Did you know they also made a tan Levi's interior in addition to the blue? Austinjeeps.com always has some fully restored CJ's as fuel for my dreams. I just can't afford to daily drive a CJ as many miles as I put on my TJ, so I have to wait until my Jeep addiction can handle two at once!
Well I know i was told that a 2003 hardtop wouldn't fit on a 2002, but i went ahead and tried it anyways... It's hard to give up such an inexpensive hardtop. I remember reading about white pins that had to be installed in the 03 and higher models. The top does fit, but i read with some minor modifications, it would fit perfect. Does anyone know about any of these modifications. Thanks, Mike
Can't help you with the white pins I'm afraid, but there's no reason the top won't physically fit. However, unless you fit vents to the hardtop or install an '03 onward lower tailgate, you'll have an HVAC system that will only work on the 'recirculate' setting.
I currently own a 2004 Liberty but miss having the convertible aspect of the Wrangler (owned a 1995 Wrangler). We are considering a Wrangler Unilimited to replace the Liberty. Gas milage is about the same so the real issue will be ride quality. I've only driven an Unlimited for a short test-drive so I can't really tell how much of a difference there will be. My wife will be driving the car as well and she gets total veto power if the Wrangler comes up short. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
My Unlimited (and my Sport, for that matter) have a 19 gallon tank. So you still had over a gallon and a half left.
I wouldn't recommend it, but I once drove the Sport 35 miles with a 2000 foot elevation gain after the light came on. I almost tried the same thing in the Unlimited right after I got it, but there had been an accident between where I was and the next gas station, so I went to the next exit and turned around. I find the Unlimited's light (the few times I've actually seen it) to come on when I have less gas than with the Sport.
What your wife might consider "acceptable ride" could be quite different than mine, so the best thing to do is try to take one for a longer test drive.
In my opinion, the ride in the Unlimited isn't all that much different than the Liberty. It's certainly not as bouncy or as skittish as a SWB Wrangler. Since you are talking about the convertible aspect, I would guess you are looking at a soft top. The new soft tops are much quieter than the '95 Wrangler tops, but they are noisier than the Liberty (something that occasionally bothers my other half, but not me). And the Unlimited has more sound padding, so it is much quieter than my '98 Sport.
As far as gas goes, my Unlimited gets about a mile or 2 less than my Sport, but that could be partly due to the auto tranny in the Unlimited vs. the 5 speed in the Sport.
I am perfectly happy having a '04 soft top Unlimited as our daily driver - and we commute 150 miles (and almost 6,000 feet) a day. Whether your wife will be as happy or not will depend on her own tastes.
My 2005 X came with the 3.73 axle ratio. I have the "good" old P225/75R15 GW Wrangler GS-A's on it now. I am contemplating a 3-4" full suspension (skyjacker) and 32 x 11.50 Goodyear MT's. Anyone second this contemplation? Please, comment and advise.....all you folks out there with much more off-road/jeep sense than I.
"Can't help you with the white pins I'm afraid, but there's no reason the top won't physically fit. However, unless you fit vents to the hardtop or install an '03 onward lower tailgate, you'll have an HVAC system that will only work on the 'recirculate' setting."
The rear window of the hardtop will likely blow out of its gasket after a while as well. When you close the door all that air has to go somewhere...
I've never read or heard anything good about Skyjacker lifts on Wranglers. One of the most popular lifts in that height range is made by Rubicon Express. You might check into that. I understand Old Man Emu has just recently added a 4 inch lift as well. Fabtech also makes a lift in that height.
I have a 19 gal tank in 04. I will dive another 50 to 60 miles and still have a couple of gals in the tank. I drive the trip meter not the gauge. I will generally go for about 300 miles then fill up the tank.
The top on the Miata was a breeze to put down and up (one handed from the drivers seat). However, I've found the Sunrider top on the Unlimited (I haven't thought of a name for her yet) is a great alternative to completely taking down the top for a quick open air ride. With any luck I'll never find out about it's ability to handle hale.
Right now I'm stationed at Camp Lejeune on the North Carolina coast. I'm originally from east Tennessee so I get up that way fairly often. Next time I'm up that way maybe I can make a trip to West Virginia (that is where you are located as I recall) and take you up on your offer. That will also give me some time to get some trail essentials together. What do you think of the name Sally for her as in "Long tall Sally"?
X2 on the Skyjacker. I've heard not so good thing about them - quality and ride. I went with the OME 2.5" lift and am VERY happy with it. I can add a body lift and motor mount lift to get 3-4". BTW, I got over 3" with this "2.5 inch lift". With a BL and MML, I won't have near as many issues as going with a straight 3-4" lift. Lifts of that height introduce more variables and you'll have to spend more to get it right. Driveline angles, steering geometry, etc, and can get REAL pricey.
Even with a 2.5" lift (okay 3") I can fit the 32x11.5's on my rig (I DO have Spidertrax spacers installed) with my factory wheels. If I have a rubbing problem, I'll do the body and motor lift and be done. AND be out less $$ than a pure 4" lift.
Just to give you an idea of what else to consider with a 4" suspension lift, consider: adjustable track bars, front and rear - center your axles left to right drop pitman arm - for steering - may or may not be needed adjustable control arms - to realign your axles front to rear, a larger lift will bring them 'in' more towards the center of the Jeep, making it unstable.
I'm sure Mac and Tom can add more, but I think the OME 2.5" lift is about the perfect height, and add the BL/MML if you want 33's or above (I suspect I'll be fine w/o em for 32's). I ordered mine from www.dpgoffroad.com and got the Heavy duty springs/shocks to allow for bumper, winch, and armor weight.
Summary: 4" lifts introduce more issues and more money 2.5" + body and motor lift will give you the same effect for less cash, and probably better ride
Here's mine on 30's for now. You can see that I have a LOT of room for 32's. Even flexing, you can see I have room for a bit more tire.
Kind of depends on your body shape, rather than overall weight really. Also having a tilt wheel will help. Best bet is to try sitting in one, it doesn't have to be a '98 necessarily.
That's more off-roading than GiGi has seen this summer. I just realized the summer is almost gone and we haven't done anything more than visit two hiking trailheads, and only once each. Maybe this weekend I'll work on going somewhere, if they don't do a fire closure of our local national forests.
As far as "hard core off roading," there is nothing that says that you have to be doing something radical to have fun. Besides, what is radical for one person may be considered pretty tame by someone else. Even the toughest stuff I do at Turkey Bay would be laughed at by the hard core rock crawlers.
Just get out and enjoy that Jeep. A day spent outdoors in your Jeep is a great day.
Let me clear up the "pins" question...since I was the goofball that originally mentioned it. On my 04, there are four white "pins" that clip into the hard top and, when aligned correctly, stick down into holes in the body of the Jeep. This is to help align the top as you're putting it on. It also holds the top in place when the bolts are all out so you won't accidentally have it slide off when you're not ready. (I saw this once years ago in college. NASTY scratches down the side of a Jeep when the person on one side wasn't ready yet and the top slid off.)
You might try putting vents or something into the hard top. I agree with you that it's hard to get rid of a top you got so cheaply. Not sure what to use to do the job though.
Don't think the new tailgate venting works so well, as I get a fogged windshield in any rain at all unless I'm running the defrost. My 89 didn't seem to do that. Of course it leaked bunches of air and water both in AND out, so it equalized humidity very well :P
Kinda hard to believe, so I checked. Gas mileage really isn't any better in a Grand or a Liberty (non-diesel). I was surprised. I figured aerodynamics would play more of a role than that :confuse:
Anyway, be sure you want to do this. As Wrangler owners, we're "unique" in what we put up with to get trail performance. The ride will be worse. I have driven a Liberty, and even had the chance to do so off-pavement once. The independent front end makes a huge difference. It is still a short wheelbase, so both vehicles will be "choppy", but hitting bumps on the road with an IFS means that each front wheel can move almost completely "independently" of the other. This really improves handling, steering feel, and impact harshness on pavement. That's why most other street-biased SUV's use it. If you want JUST the top-down part of the equation, you might consider a good older Wrangler that you can get for pretty cheap AND keep the Liberty. Plus, if you decide you hate it, it's hard to lose money on a used Wrangler unless you just completely neglect it. I've seen rusty 87 Wranglers full of leaves still selling for $3500!
Side note: You'll also want to consider that Wranglers are very difficult to get in and out of in a skirt. I did not consider this, and catch some grief over it occasionally
Yes, the Unlimited does drive MUCH better than the old Wranglers, and is even smoother than the regular TJ. But remeber that the Liberty (KJ) was designed for those that needed to be on pavement most of the time and were tired of being beaten up by the old Cherokee, which had solid axles. In this mission, it succeeded well. It's sales numbers are very good.
You might rent one for a week to see what you think over more than just a test drive. We're always glad to welcome more owners if you decide to do it!
In April or May we went from a 2002 Liberty to a 6 speed unlimited. I have found the gas millage to be 2-3 MPG less with the Unlimited but it has been worth the loss. I have two small boys (3&6) and they love to drive with the windows out on the weekends. The room is about the same and we don'tmind the two doors. I do wish it had a 5th seatbelt for those times we have an extra kid and want to do a beach run or to the soccer games. I enjoy it as a daily driver and have no complaints in that regard. The Liberty was a good solid vehicle but the unlimited is pure weekend fun.
It's a beautiful weekend even though we spent most of Saturday catching up on our shopping. Tomorrow I hope to go for a walk somewhere, but haven't checked for fire closures yet. It has been pretty quiet around here for a the last day or so.
Well, my Mopar cab cover is not as water resistant as I would like. Put my cab cover on late yesterday--had the top down all day and an hour later there was a sudden heavy rain (none forecasted for 6 days, btw) . The cover leaked water all over the front seats. That section of the cover was holding at least 3 gallons of water that had pooled into a deep sag. So from now on, I'll definitely be putting the top up before putting the cover on.
My wife and I took a trip to Florida a couple of weeks ago & my black '04 Sahara was splattered pretty good with "love bugs" which are swarming heavily in that part of the country this time of year. I got home and got busy and a few days went by before I got a chance to wash them off. When I washed them off I found that the bugs had dissolved my paint down to the primer coat. Now my shiny, nearly new, black jeep with only 13,000 miles looks like the front end was peppered with a shotgun. Anyone else ever had this problem? If so, anyone know if I have a prayer at having this covered by the factory warranty? You'd think a hard core offroad vehicle could handle a few bugs!! I've never had this happen with any other vehicle I've owned. Is there a know issue with Jeep paint being weak? Any input is appreciated.
The 2002 had a recall (actually 3) One involved "crap" accumulating in the #3 cylinder. I think the fix is that the dealer installs a cover. It should be done for free by the dealer.
Kept me busy a good portion of Saturday. We also saw a movie and had some BBQ ribs.
Sunday I did a bit of work on the Jeep, installing the A/C J tube to fix any drain issues I may have, siliconing part of the plastic around the door to help reduce water intrusion, and got ready to touchup paint the boo boo my front fender sustained. Going wheeling this weekend with the wife for the first time, so I have a few things to get the Jeep ready.
Then we went rockwall climbing in Nashville and had an early dinner at the Aquarium restaurant at Opry Mills. Didn't take the Jeep.
I haven't had a problem with bugs dissolving the paint, though I do have to remember to get some touch-up paint. Somewhere along the line I picked up a small dent in the front (rock?) and the paint flaked off where it's creased. It doesn't look like there was much of a primer under that bright green '04 paint. I figure the only place I'll be able to get it is at the dealer.
While I'm at it, I probably should pick up some black touch-up paint - the '98 Sport has a bare spot on the front - looks like another rock. That paint seems to have held up better - which is interesting, since I've done much more to keep the Unlimited waxed etc. than I ever did to the Sport.
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), you don't have a faulty paint job. Lovebug juice is highly corrosive to most types of vehicle paintwork, and of course where you might have hit 100 regular bugs, if they're lovebugs you'll hit 200! :P
So to answer your question, I've never heard of anyone getting paintwork warrantied for insect damage, and neither will get your a/c evaporator core or radiator replaced if it gets taken out by a big hard bug (which happens down here sometimes ).
Basically correct, but the recall covers all 4.0 engines from '99 - '03. It's possible for debris (leaves etc.) to accumulate around the #3 spark plug and maybe ignite. It's a possible, but unlikely, cause for a misfire. The recall is designated 'B06 MAY 02'.
thank you all for your advice but a da after i poste dthat i found tires that made it so i can afford both. so my problem is solved. i am so glad to have a girl that may be more into the jeep than i am but unfortinatly im the one with the money and automotive knowledge at least for now. she is more that happy with everything i do and says that everyday i impress her a little bit more i just hope my luck holds out and she doaesnt get bored.
Hi everyone... After close to 34 years, I have FINALLY bought the dream that I have had since I was 15-16 years old. (you do the math!). Today, I bought a 2000 Sahara in black with tan hard and soft top. I have been reading this site for several years and wanted to "join" the club. I was going to buy a new Rubicon, but decided that I would buy one with some time and miles on it since this is purely a play toy for me.
I do have a couple of questions, if I might ask. 1- How difficult is it to remove the hard top? 2- Since the 4x4 is limited slip, what can I expect when going off road vs. the transmission system on the Rubicon?
I will post a picture (I know that is "mandatory" for true admission to the club) as soon as I take one over the next couple of days.
This is exciting and I can't wait to take her off road soon! Chuck
Welcome to Wrangler ownership! Once you have Wrangler fever, you're stuck - you'll eventually buy one.
I've never off-roaded a Rubicon (or a 4x4 with lockers, for that matter). There are places where you would need a locker, but it is amazing how trail worthy the stock Wrangler is - just ask Paul who was off-roading a (more or less) stock SE for a while. I don't do hard core stuff like Tom, so I've never felt a need for lockers (I have needed the extra traction of 4x4 before).
One of the things I'd like to add would be air lockers - I'd love to have an on-board air compressor to air up my tires when I've aired down for soft stuff.
Comments
-Mike
The soft top does surprisingly well with hail. It is like a trampoline for it - up to a point. The multi-layered sailcloth is surprisingly strong. It gives MUCH better than the metal hood.
-Paul
Congrats on the Unlimited!
More importantly, as an Air Force retiree, I want to thank you for your service to our country. You and your fellow marines, soldiers, airmen and sailors are sincerely appreciated.
Randy
PS - a "case" of Quaker State oil now consists of 16 quarts. Picked one up today for $1.09 per quart plus a mail in coupon for a free $10 Shell gas card. Makes up, a little, for what the robber barons are charging.
-Mike
Welcome home, and thank you for serving our country. Glad you made it home safe.
Congratulations on the new Unlimited. It would be my pleasure to take you out for some wheelin', if you lived close enough to make it practical. Where are you located?
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Mark
You only have a 17 gallon tank? :surprise:
"DRILLING HOLES
Do not drill holes in the top and bottom of frame
rail, metal fatigue can result causing frame failure.
Holes drilled in the side of the frame rail must be at
least 38 mm (1.5 in.) from the top and bottom
flanges.
Additional drill holes should be located away from
existing holes."
It just seems like those seventies and eighties packages fit with the Jeeps so well. The last few Wrangler packages seem that they drove through Pep Boys with the crap magnet on (I stole that phrase from somewhere I can't remember, but it's applicable here.) And I 'ain't pickin on anybody because my first Jeep was an 89 YJ. Right in the "Le Jeep" Renault/Chrysler days. At least the, umm..."Islander" (sorry to bring that up) had special paint. This package seems to be stickers and a can of paint for the center stack. I actually do like the wheels, weirdly enough.
I don't discount all the packages as My Dad has a Grand special edition, and it works well. It was a package way to get lots of the luxury items on a Grand and not have to pony up for the v8 (he likes the 4.0 better).
Did you know they also made a tan Levi's interior in addition to the blue? Austinjeeps.com always has some fully restored CJ's as fuel for my dreams. I just can't afford to daily drive a CJ as many miles as I put on my TJ, so I have to wait until my Jeep addiction can handle two at once!
I remember reading about white pins that had to be installed in the 03 and higher models. The top does fit, but i read with some minor modifications, it would fit perfect. Does anyone know about any of these modifications.
Thanks,
Mike
Nate
I wouldn't recommend it, but I once drove the Sport 35 miles with a 2000 foot elevation gain after the light came on. I almost tried the same thing in the Unlimited right after I got it, but there had been an accident between where I was and the next gas station, so I went to the next exit and turned around. I find the Unlimited's light (the few times I've actually seen it) to come on when I have less gas than with the Sport.
In my opinion, the ride in the Unlimited isn't all that much different than the Liberty. It's certainly not as bouncy or as skittish as a SWB Wrangler. Since you are talking about the convertible aspect, I would guess you are looking at a soft top. The new soft tops are much quieter than the '95 Wrangler tops, but they are noisier than the Liberty (something that occasionally bothers my other half, but not me). And the Unlimited has more sound padding, so it is much quieter than my '98 Sport.
As far as gas goes, my Unlimited gets about a mile or 2 less than my Sport, but that could be partly due to the auto tranny in the Unlimited vs. the 5 speed in the Sport.
I am perfectly happy having a '04 soft top Unlimited as our daily driver - and we commute 150 miles (and almost 6,000 feet) a day. Whether your wife will be as happy or not will depend on her own tastes.
Thanks!!
Spencer
The rear window of the hardtop will likely blow out of its gasket after a while as well. When you close the door all that air has to go somewhere...
The top on the Miata was a breeze to put down and up (one handed from the drivers seat). However, I've found the Sunrider top on the Unlimited (I haven't thought of a name for her yet) is a great alternative to completely taking down the top for a quick open air ride. With any luck I'll never find out about it's ability to handle hale.
Semper Fi,
Clay
Right now I'm stationed at Camp Lejeune on the North Carolina coast. I'm originally from east Tennessee so I get up that way fairly often. Next time I'm up that way maybe I can make a trip to West Virginia (that is where you are located as I recall) and take you up on your offer. That will also give me some time to get some trail essentials together.
What do you think of the name Sally for her as in "Long tall Sally"?
Semper Fi,
Clay
I live in western KY, Clay, not WV. You are probably no more than about five hours from Turkey Bay, depending on where in eastern TN you live.
Bring it on anytime.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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Even with a 2.5" lift (okay 3") I can fit the 32x11.5's on my rig (I DO have Spidertrax spacers installed) with my factory wheels. If I have a rubbing problem, I'll do the body and motor lift and be done. AND be out less $$ than a pure 4" lift.
Just to give you an idea of what else to consider with a 4" suspension lift, consider:
adjustable track bars, front and rear - center your axles left to right
drop pitman arm - for steering - may or may not be needed
adjustable control arms - to realign your axles front to rear, a larger lift will bring them 'in' more towards the center of the Jeep, making it unstable.
I'm sure Mac and Tom can add more, but I think the OME 2.5" lift is about the perfect height, and add the BL/MML if you want 33's or above (I suspect I'll be fine w/o em for 32's). I ordered mine from www.dpgoffroad.com and got the Heavy duty springs/shocks to allow for bumper, winch, and armor weight.
Summary:
4" lifts introduce more issues and more money
2.5" + body and motor lift will give you the same effect for less cash, and probably better ride
Here's mine on 30's for now. You can see that I have a LOT of room for 32's. Even flexing, you can see I have room for a bit more tire.
Flexing...
Lookin' pretty...
With the winch...
-Paul
Nice pics.
As far as "hard core off roading," there is nothing that says that you have to be doing something radical to have fun. Besides, what is radical for one person may be considered pretty tame by someone else. Even the toughest stuff I do at Turkey Bay would be laughed at by the hard core rock crawlers.
Just get out and enjoy that Jeep. A day spent outdoors in your Jeep is a great day.
Tomster
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Mark
You might try putting vents or something into the hard top. I agree with you that it's hard to get rid of a top you got so cheaply. Not sure what to use to do the job though.
Don't think the new tailgate venting works so well, as I get a fogged windshield in any rain at all unless I'm running the defrost. My 89 didn't seem to do that. Of course it leaked bunches of air and water both in AND out, so it equalized humidity very well :P
Anyway, be sure you want to do this. As Wrangler owners, we're "unique" in what we put up with to get trail performance. The ride will be worse. I have driven a Liberty, and even had the chance to do so off-pavement once. The independent front end makes a huge difference. It is still a short wheelbase, so both vehicles will be "choppy", but hitting bumps on the road with an IFS means that each front wheel can move almost completely "independently" of the other. This really improves handling, steering feel, and impact harshness on pavement. That's why most other street-biased SUV's use it. If you want JUST the top-down part of the equation, you might consider a good older Wrangler that you can get for pretty cheap AND keep the Liberty. Plus, if you decide you hate it, it's hard to lose money on a used Wrangler unless you just completely neglect it. I've seen rusty 87 Wranglers full of leaves still selling for $3500!
Side note: You'll also want to consider that Wranglers are very difficult to get in and out of in a skirt. I did not consider this, and catch some grief over it occasionally
Yes, the Unlimited does drive MUCH better than the old Wranglers, and is even smoother than the regular TJ. But remeber that the Liberty (KJ) was designed for those that needed to be on pavement most of the time and were tired of being beaten up by the old Cherokee, which had solid axles. In this mission, it succeeded well. It's sales numbers are very good.
You might rent one for a week to see what you think over more than just a test drive. We're always glad to welcome more owners if you decide to do it!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Chad
One involved "crap" accumulating in the #3 cylinder.
I think the fix is that the dealer installs a cover.
It should be done for free by the dealer.
Sunday I did a bit of work on the Jeep, installing the A/C J tube to fix any drain issues I may have, siliconing part of the plastic around the door to help reduce water intrusion, and got ready to touchup paint the boo boo my front fender sustained. Going wheeling this weekend with the wife for the first time, so I have a few things to get the Jeep ready.
Then we went rockwall climbing in Nashville and had an early dinner at the Aquarium restaurant at Opry Mills.
-Paul
While I'm at it, I probably should pick up some black touch-up paint - the '98 Sport has a bare spot on the front - looks like another rock. That paint seems to have held up better - which is interesting, since I've done much more to keep the Unlimited waxed etc. than I ever did to the Sport.
So to answer your question, I've never heard of anyone getting paintwork warrantied for insect damage, and neither will get your a/c evaporator core or radiator replaced if it gets taken out by a big hard bug (which happens down here sometimes
I do have a couple of questions, if I might ask. 1- How difficult is it to remove the hard top? 2- Since the 4x4 is limited slip, what can I expect when going off road vs. the transmission system on the Rubicon?
I will post a picture (I know that is "mandatory" for true admission to the club) as soon as I take one over the next couple of days.
This is exciting and I can't wait to take her off road soon! Chuck
I've never off-roaded a Rubicon (or a 4x4 with lockers, for that matter). There are places where you would need a locker, but it is amazing how trail worthy the stock Wrangler is - just ask Paul who was off-roading a (more or less) stock SE for a while. I don't do hard core stuff like Tom, so I've never felt a need for lockers (I have needed the extra traction of 4x4 before).
One of the things I'd like to add would be air lockers - I'd love to have an on-board air compressor to air up my tires when I've aired down for soft stuff.