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Someone should produce a mag entitled "Everything the Auto Manfacturers don't want you to know about the vehicles they produce." It has kind of a ring to it doesn't it? Hehehe.
0-60: Tundra = 8.6/10.3*
Silverado = 9.2/10.8*
Ram = 10.1/11.7*
F150 = 9.3/11.3*
1/4: Tundra = 16.7@83/17.7@79*
Silver = 16.8@82/17.6@78*
Ram = 17.4@77/18.1@73*
F150 = 16.7@81/17.9@76*
Braking 70-0: Tundra = 189/200*
Silver = 196/222*
Ram = 203/205*
F150 = 203/211*
* with 1,000 lb payload
All engines except for the F150 are the base V8. The F150 had a 5.4L. The Tundra was the lightest and the Ram weighed in the heaviest (quad cab style). The Ram is only rated to tow a 6,100 lb load!
I've got to admit that I was quite taken aback to read that the Tundra was rated as low as it was. Quotes like "The Silverado's structure is more solid and rattle-free than the others" had me gasping as that is quite contradictory from what I've seemed to have read here. To be fair, they did slam the Tundra on rear cab space, but rated it slightly better than the F150. And they thought the TRD suspension was set too stiff. In the new Annual Consumer Reports Car Edition mag, they report that the Tundra is the recommended favorite of the trucks in the full size category. They also rated the reliability of the Tundra with a big red cherry vs the Silverado with a big black mark. I trust CR over C&D any day.
Many don't trust neither or trust both depending if it agrees with their opinion.
What do you use to base your decision on a new car or truck or other major cost goodies? Intuition?
Nah, them commercials on the tele are what the chevy owners base their decisions on. Those "like a rock" ads keep em comin back, because we all know the ad execs at chevy wouldn't want to mislead anyone. ROTFLMAO!!!
Here is the link to a Truck Trend test of a Silverado 1500 LT and a Tundra SR5
http://www.trucktrend.com/editorial/article_popup.jsp?id=30189&sidebar=1
Notice the numbers for the same tests differ from what Car &Driver got. Some of the tests favor the Silverado and some favor the Tundra.
Guess the outcome depends on who does the test.
1. Count the number of car ads in the next Car and Driver.
2. Count the number of car ads in CR.
Report the result and then tell me again which magazine you think is likely to be less biased.
Hmmm, sounds like like obyone could relate to that...quality of materials and assembly of his truck (bonafide lemon) and brand loyalty.
obyone, since you are a chevy fanatic, are you trying to tell me with all your ramblings about side-impact ratings that in 1998 I should have bought a Chevy S-10? I don't think you want to go there...
The excitement wore off quickly, because Tundra is basically boring, as would be anything mistakenly marketed in the full size class that prides on being compact and car like.
You wouldn't be debating yourselves if they had written what you wanted to read.
George
one of the local dealers. While I couldn't in any ways talk up a deall or get a price, I located one
on the internet close to $30,000 about 200 miles from my hometown. (Prices suggested at that
time were $30,000 to in some cases $35000. I drove out of the dealership a little after closing
time, and beleive it or not started having problems before I got out of town. - - a bumping noise
as if you had run over something in the road, then 'open door' light came on and the doors would unlock, and interior lights came on. Back and forth to dealers adjusting door latches,
brought on wind and road noises, so the radio was of no use over 40MPH. Finally the open
door light problem was solved, (as with the security system), but not the road noises. Finally
after arbitration, the Toyota rep decided that the road noise was normal, and said he couldn't
hear any, however every one that rode in it could hear it. Of course every one knows how you
come out in arbitration . Now recently we have noticed exhaust fumes that we assume comes
in under the two right hand doors where all the road noise comes in. I am well pleased with the
performance, and gas mileage, and all round handling of this vehicle, and I want either a new
Lexus, or Toyota Avalon with luxury equipment, but at this point since Toyota cannot fix this
vehicle, and fix it so it will stay fixed, I am afraid to invest any thing else in Toyota. Has any one
else had problems with their Tundras similar to this? This is my first Toyota after owning 45
other makes.
jhsbhs@aol.com
John
And you're right. It does depend on who does the test - and with what! {:=]
LOL. That was a POS computer, wasn't it. Glad I didn't get one. I actually remember reading that article. Like I said, CR's not perfect but more hits than misses. And your right, there are sources of information out there other than CR for auto purchases such as Edmunds, KBB, Tundrasolutions, etc. (all of which I reviewed plus some, thank you very much). But you know what? CR provides objective, unbiased (as unbiased as you can get) information for products they evaluate. Happens they recommend the Tundra and not the Silverado cause of reliability records. But they think the Silverado performs well, just not reliably.
And yeah, I've used CR's recommendation to purchase my washer and dryer about 6 years ago. They haven't broken yet. Maybe Chevy should learn some manufacturing tricks from Kenmore's supplier.
Dude, What are you smoking??? Must be pretty good one-hit stuff! You might want to check elsewhere on this site under NEW and TOYOTA TUNDRA and OPTIONS. If you did that you might just discover that limited slip IS offered on the tundra...or maybe you won't discover it.
"TOM, take me out with a bong hit"
http://www.tundrasolutions.com
Good luck!!
You and Quad are unfortunate lemon Chev owners. You obviously know nothing about Tundras. I am wondering why Lemon Chev owners would post to a Tundra topic - maybe sour grapes?
Hey Twowheeler ... " are ya ready, ok here ya go ( chirp chirp chirp .... bubble bubble bubble ) "
That goes back to what I originally said about knowledgeable Tundra owners.
Have you gotten your ride yet?
See even the ambulance companies in L.A. are screwed up. Not really worth going back, after all its a 7-8 dollar/hour job. I might be back on fire engine soon, so will get truck then. Still chompin at the bit to get rid of this Ford.
I really hope your state gets its act together, so Colorado doesn't get another influx of refugees from your utopia like we had in the '80s.
You weren't kidding when you said you got your angst from listening to right wing talk radio, were you?!!!!!!
I'm sure this is all caused by problems with Tundra brake rotors, right?
Tom
Lol Tom ... so I guess Quad won't be interested in my house when I leave.
All kidding aside in my opinion, LA does suck the big one and had it not been for that attractive high-dollar job offer right out of college, I'd probably be livin somewhere else...and driving a Chevy. Well, maybe not that.
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I'm a republican gun tottin' Boxer/SiFi hatin' San Diegan myself but unless you get some decent surf in Colorado I don't see myself moving there anytime soon.
Who are you really? Quad Limbaugh? ROTFLMAO!!!
They fixed his Tundra without any problems. His Tundra is now fine but he is thinking of selling it and getting the new Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab.
I have read some posts here with other owners having transmission problems too. Prior to the Tundra he owned a 1986 Toyota pickup with a manual transmission that never gave him any problems even with 287,000 miles on it. That pickup was sold to a cousin and it is still going strong.
Have you guys heard of a defect with the transmission in the Tundras? I do see some posts complaining about transmission problems.
I am thinking of buying a Tundra or a 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab. The Tundra did great in the offset crash test and are considered reliable. The new Dodge looks good, lots of interior room, nice ride, decent speed and comes with a 7 year/100,000 mile warranty on engine/transmission plus a $1500 rebate if you buy on or before March 31,2002.
I like both pickups but the problems with my brother's Tundra makes me think twice.
Suggestions?
There is the half shaft binding thump that seems to happen in the Tundra as well as other trucks when you come to na abrupt stop. Otherwise, I have not heard of tranny failures. yours is only the second one I have read about.
I would not buy a first year production model of any truck. The 2002 ram is getting good reviews, but it is a first year model. I waited until 2002 and thn got my Tundra and I was rewarded. No brake problems, an LSD and I am very satisfied with it.
I dont wanna put down the new Ram, but I tend to agree with Ndahi. I'd be a little leary to dive into a first year model. I give a thumbs up to Dodge for stepping to plate with a great standard warranty. I personally dont think you will find a more reliable make than Toyota, regardless of competitors warranties etc. .
Also if you look at a lot of the Tundra complaints, they mainly stem from the 2000 models. This was first year of production and it was to be somewhat expected that there were going to be glitches to work out. The 01/02s seem to have faired a little better. Perhaps this is due to fact that they have less mileage, and/or fact of Toyota ironing out a few wrinkles. Either truck should be a winner when compared to whats out there.
My boss just bought a 2002 V6 Tundra X Cab and the power steering unit went out on him after 2500 miles. He had it replaced under warranty. He still loves his Tundra though.
I am leaning towards the Toyota over the Dodge.
The transmission problem is also very rare, in over 40,000 posts on Tundra Solutions, I have only read of one other transmission failure. The owner apparently submerged his truck in mud and caused the tranny to fail. I think that Toyota still warrantied it.
Toyota has the most bulletproof powertrain of any 1/2 ton pickup. They have 40% more powertrain warranty than anyone else. If your buddy had a GM or Ford tranny fail at 59,000 miles (a much more likely occurence) then they would be paying out of their own pocket.
I'll be buying either a Tundra or the new Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab this month. Both are rated high in safety.
When I compared both vehicles from my research on the internet. The Tundra was the best value overall. It has the quality and reliability reputation, excellent resale value and scored consistently well in reviews.
I also spoke to several mechanics I know and they all favored the Tundra over all other makes.
I will hopefully be buying this month a red Tundra SR5 V8 access cab 4X4 with ABS, slip differential, fog lights and other options.
Do you think it is worth getting the TRD OffRoad package?
Appreciate any advice from Tundra owners.
I've yet to see an engine that will run as quiet and smooth as a Toys. You can expect reliability that is superior to Dodge and many others for that matter. Truck has been rated well in crash tests, and as a firefighter/emt for last 10 years or so, I must say, the Tacomas/Tundras I've seen in wrecks have held their ground and fared well for most part. Best of luck to ya my friend.
As for the TRD package, I did not get it on my 4X2. Here in CA it was very hard to find the TRD with the limited slip. So I got the limited slip w/o the TRD and then got the HD Bilestin TRD shocks and installed them myslef. These shocks are even stiffer than the OEM TRD package sold to the public. I really HATED the stock shocks. They were too soft for my taste. Some people like a soft ride, but I do not. I prefer a stiff controlled ride, but not jarring. I love the way my truck rides and handles with the aftermarket TRD Bilestin shocks.
I did not care about the TRD sticker and the fender flares. The fender flares made the rims/tires look too small and tucked in under the truck. The TRD fender flares makes the truck look wierd.