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Boch. I am going to go to other Toyota dealers.
Have to say I was very surprised being treated like this!
Too bad since we bought our other two Toyota's from them.
Now a days I guess that does not matter to them for Loyalty
of thier customers!
I also thought that Toyota's hold there Value more that any other
car maker, am I wrong....
I am also at this point going to wait for specials that I am sure that
will be coming up.
Also we were looking at the Highlander Limited which I really love the
drive and the comfort. Does anyone here have the Highlander Hybrid.
If so what do you feel about it..
thanks
ty5240
I live in Colorado Springs and am trying to buy a 2008 Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited with NAV and DVD among other options like side steps, body-side moldings, etc. The dealers in town are telling me this vehicle is so hot they are selling it 1K over MSRP only. Additionally, they are saying Toyota is not manufacturing the Hybrids with NAV, DVD and sun roof... I am trying to figure out what is true in all of the crap they are saying. Is it realistic to think I can get a hybrid with all options I want at a reasonable price?
Thanks in advance.
Initially, they were interested in a base Highlander 4wd. We went to a this dealer and at first they quoted 29,xxx. After researching for a night, I had an idea of what to ask for. I asked for their invoice and it showed $28177 with options. The sales manager threw out28,500, 28,600 but we refused. Eventually, it went down to 28,000. I thought initially, WTH, its 177$ under their invoice until I read up on "Dealer holdback", "TDA", and "Whsl. Financial Reserve". My question is when people says a good price is (invoice + $500), is it the $28177 that they give you? Or is it their (invoice - dealer holdback). What about Wholesale Financial Reserve, is it just another scam for their profit? Any input is greatly appreciate because we HAVE to buy it tomorrow and I want to get the best price for my parents( they don't understand english very well). Thanks
EDIT: I've been reading alot tonight about "dealer holdback". If they get the money back from the manufactured AND is STILL charging us, wouldn't they make double? IE Dealer holdback on my invoice was $575. So they would be making $1150 on that alone?
Two days ago, i called him up again, he said its really not looking great and still he couldnt find anyhting out there, and that the dealer trade isnt working out. So he said he's willing to let me off the contract and find another dealership. I've been waiting for more tahn two mos. now and now he's just bailing out on me. What do I do now? Somebody enlighten me please.
If you don't want it, you don't have to get it. Good luck!!
However, I will say that between Schaumburg Toyota in Schaumburg, IL and Pauly Toyota in Crystal Lake, IL there always seem to be a half-dozen or so Highlanders Limited WITH Nav and W/O DVD pretty much all the time...which begs another question - why won't they deal more ?
I got it for 38,995 (without TTL) for 4wd, limited, navi, dvd, auto rear hatch, rear ac, back spoiler, mats, and I think that was it. I was happy with it, as it sounds like they are in short supply. I have had dealers try to sell me portable navis, but dont't do it. The integrated navi is really sweet.
$37k (excl. tax and lic)
no DVD but pretty much everything else
heated seats
running boards
toyota nav
4wd
snrf
pwr hatch
keyless entry
mats
rear spoiler
Tow pkg
9 spkr stereo
mag grey
Was hoping for better mileage but overall liking the car after 350miles
Would you mind sharing the MSRP and TMV if you have it.
EJ: JBL Radio
FE: 50 State Emissions
QR: CFC free rear auto climate
RF: Rear spoiler
HD: Heated seats
SR: Sunroof
TO: Tow package
3T: Roof rails
WL: Wheel locks
DK: ?????? (not sure...code given to me by dealership)
MSRP: $38,470.00
Invoice: $33,903.00 (w/o DK option)
Dealer Price: $35,017.00 (first offer by dealer...does not include tax, tags, or pf)
Basically this is an AWD limited without NAV and DVD. When I asked how much they could improve on the price the response was they would look at it but the pricing given out by the internet department is very aggressive. I was initially set at offering $34,000.00 for the vehicle with little flexibility but do you think that is too aggressive on my part? I still have a few months until I absolutely need the bigger vehicle so I figured I would go aggressive and see if I could get a "deal" at the end of the year. What do you think?
Dealer has mine coming out of Okaohma. Mine will be the first limited with the towing packgae,
awd and th navigation system Around these parrts
PS.
If they can't locate the one you want with all of your options, be ready to wait about 12 weeks to order one. I lucked out, I live in Louisiana, but they found mine in Oklahoma.
1. Call the "internet sales dept" of your local dealer. Mine quoted within $50 of the cars direct instant web quote (coincidence?) and were very low pressure. No sales pitch no nonsense...conversation all based on fact. Everything negotiated over phone. Actual car purchase took 30 minutes of paperwork and no additional sales pitches or last minute surprises.
2. Try Cars direct: They had very competitive pricing, low pressure sales people and they deliver to your door for "free". I would have bought from them but the dealer nearby had the car I wanted in stock for the same price.
todays MSRP from cars direct is $42,147 (though it might change over time..looks like the price quote did)
don't know the TMV but should be easy to figure out with the options i listed (forgot to include rear auto AC)
what's the best price out there for Lim w/ Nav minus DVD? (read 39K somewhere)?
Original dealer offer (through internet sales dept) was $37,200.00
Any info is greatly appreciated!
A Salesman at Naperville Toyota, Naperville, IL
the set admin fee (southeast toyota) cannot be waived. it is charged only to the dealer invoice, so its takes 750 away from the dealer, but doesn't add to the sticker. from the sounds of things, you can't get these at invoice anyway so you shouldn't worry too much about it.
the market place is what determines price, and right now HH are selling at sticker or above cause of the demand. if you don't want to pay that price, the guy behind you will, so there is no reason for the dealers to come of list price (msrp).
right now a reasonable price is stickers, and if the dealer wants more than that, then they are just being greedy. just find one who wont charge over sticker and get your car.
EDIT: I've been reading alot tonight about "dealer holdback". If they get the money back from the manufactured AND is STILL charging us, wouldn't they make double? IE Dealer holdback on my invoice was $575. So they would be making $1150 on that alone? "
first of all, profit is not a dirty 4 letter word. anyone selling something is entitled to try to make profit. holdback comes from the manufacturer to the dealer for selling cars. if the holdback is 575, then the dealer gets 575 when they sell the car (from toyota), but its not double. dealers know what the holdback is on each car, but so what. right now, the 08 highlanders are selling very well, and if dealers are selling them at 1000-2000 above invoice, then that is what they will continue to sell for untill the demand cools off some.
b/c the cars are hard to find, and they want to make as much as they can right now. kinda like when the wii came out and people sold them on ebay for 2x what the retail price was. as long as consumers are willing the pay the going price, and demand is higher than supply, the price will stay high. its basic economics.
FYI:There is an option Toyota offers for $1295 (or upgraded to $1595) for a rear DVD player that is mounted within each headrest. This price includes 2 wireless headphones. I was very happy knowing this is an option for the future. Toyota can order and install within 5 days of request.
Good luck!
Just started the hunt myself for a Limited w/o DVD.
Was this $500 over Edmunds listed invoice, or the dealer's invoice (as far as I can tell, the dealer invoice often includes advertising fee's, DFA's, gas etc which bump it up another $500-750).
Cheers
The final statement the dealer said this..."We have tried to resolve this issue with Mr. ...... with concessions on Price and stated all the facts honestly. We are sorry that Mr. ........ still feels he was harmed in some way that would justify his demands. Unfortunately some people feel that an honest mistake by someone should be capitalized on. Mr. ....... did say he knew the price was a mistake to XXXX and XXXXX. We withdraw our offer to sell Mr. ........ a vehicle at any price and prefer not to do any business with him. I believe our conversations with Mr. ........ have all been clearly stated and I can not add any more to this.
We never entered into a contract of any kind with Mr. ........and never deposited any money towards a vehicle purchase for Mr. ........"
So BEWARE if you deal with these sellers. Most transactions I'm sure go smooth. I had most of our negotiating done via emails and had put the credit card down & it still was something the dealer could back out of. They offered a few hundred off the high price and expected me to lunge at the new offer. "My Demands" were to just get the car at the price we had agreed to. They are making false claims that I admitted to them that I knew they made a mistake. I hope some of you learn from my situation.
On a side note, the dealership is Lakeland Toyota in Sheboygan, Wisconsin.
I'm now thinking of waiting for the 2009 Pilot to come out....
Thanks!