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g8trdave: I bet in another year or 2 they 'll include a standard rear spoiler on the RSX-S. I could be wrong, but looking at the Integra 's history, they added leather in '98 because sales had started to go down and the price only went up about $100 as it did every year before that. They also added ABS as standard equipment as well as 15" alloys in LS/GS in '98 to boost sales with no significant sticker increases ($100). Wheel size prior to '98 were 14" steel ones (except GSR)!! In '99 the rear sway bar in the LS/GS models went up from 13mm to 14mm (same as GSR's). In '00 all Integras came with no distributor and did not require tune ups for 100k mi. Oh, and in '98 again CD player became standard in all models as it was an option even in the GSR before that. In '96 all Integras came with All Season High Performance tires where '94-95 models came with just high performance (not to be confused with ZR/WR ultra performance) ones and you got killed with a slight snow dusting or a little sleet or freezing rain (they were terrible even in the rain). In '01 GSRs came with Type-R intake manifold and header & exhaust were changed considerably and was not interchangeable with older GSR models. And this was the last year in production!
So you see they added a considerable amount of options as standard equipment throughout the years. Acura has been known to make upgrades and improvements in the middle of a production cycle. For example in '92, in the middle of the g2 Integra cycle, the 1st GSR came out with 160hp 1.7L VTEC motor. In '93 they started shipping regular Integras with 140hp engines where the 3 previous years HP was at 130. Honda has done similar things to Civics & Accords. So who knows, the spoiler may become standard in the Type-S when the sales #s start dropping a little and I estimate that will happen with '03 models. If not a spoiler then I guarantee you it 'll be something else like better tires, wheels, center arm rest, etc.
Also don't forget to go to the Acura web page and send them an e-mail with your complaints, dislikes, etc. The Acura division in the US has some saying into what North Americans want, which is why JDM models are slightly different than USDM ones.
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
As a side note, I was upset that the Integra didn't have a tape player included. I inquired and the salesman told me Acura can install a combo CD/tape player stereo for a "mere" $600 upgrade. As Stone Cold Steve Austin asks so eloquently, "WHAT?!?!" Alas, it would have added $0 to the car's residual, according to the dealership. So I cut the training wheels and have been sans audio cassettes thereafter
Also if you DO not get a spolier the over all look is sporty, and sophisticated at the same time.
What do you guys think?
personally, i feel the affordable compact, sports sedan market is way underserved. civic, sentra, etc are a little on the bland side and don't offer enough performance. is300 and 325i are a bit on the expensive side and i'm not big on any of the american makes. the new matrix isn't bad, but i'd much prefer a 4-door rsx if and when they make one.
There's a market for every car, but I have doubts that there are enough four door fans to make it profitable.
WRX is ugly and the dealer service is probably no where near that of an Acura dealer.
True, I forgot about the WRX. That is a good alternative and is in the same price range. However, the interior is not as pretty as the RSX. I guess that's a small penalty for a rally-bred car. Oh well, I guess you can't have everything.
I can't verify it, but it seemed to make sense.
But that's only my 2¢ worth.
At any rate, a spoiler on the RSX ranks right up there on the "useful meter" alongside lighted windshield jets, coffee can tailpipes, and Altezza-style lenses. I didn't like the one my GS-R had, and didn't buy one for my 'Lude. I mean, really! When you see a Chevy Malibu with a spoiler, who exactly are you trying to impress?
We're obviosly debating opinions here. The point is, the car doesn't need a spoiler, other than to try and look less like a Civic coupe.
Functionally, it accomplishes nothing other than adding weight (I thought the point of looking fast was being fast). If you're looking for more performance from your RSX for the same $$ as the spoiler, chuck the stock rubber and buy some Dunlop SP5000 tires.
I really don't see what similar offerings honda/acura has that would compete with a 4-door rsx. I'm definitely not buying a 4-door accord. The accord is too big, not sporty enough, and not a car you can buy with a 5speed unless you're willing to hurt resale value. And if the rsx sedan does take away from the civic sedan (which i don't think it would), wouldn't that be a good thing since the rsx costs more?
And, no. I don't think that spoilers add weight, I know that they do.
P.S.--If I could have bought my (non-spoilered) Prelude without a moonroof, I would have.
Also I require a sunroof on any car I own. I just gotta have one. On the moonroof issue I think those that don't want one are in a small minority. Especially on sporty cars.
Too bad Acura forcefeeds customers moonroofs with the RSX. One reason why the late Integra Type R does not offer a sunroof/moonroof is because of the added weight, but the ITR is very performance-oriented; not meant for the masses. I heard that Acura even made air-conditioning as an option in the ITR.
As we have seen Honda seems to now be going after the highest percentile buyer. MOST people that buy new Civics don't take it immediately to the tuner shop so the strut up front won't even matter. And MOST RSX buyers want a roof. It goes along with the "no options" line that all other Hondas have.
Acura is not mass marketing RSX as it did with Integra a few years ago. Some people may want moon roof but no leather, leather but no moon roof, leather and moon roof; a choice of 5-speed manual, 5-speed automatic or 6-speed manual (Type-S) to go with all of the above options. Too many possible combinations applied over a targeted sales of only 25K cars per year.
As for weight added by heavier wheels versus moon roof, one of them adds to the unsprung weight. And for improved performance, it would be desirable to have a lower unsprung weight. New ITR uses 17" rims (tires: P215/45/R17) but they may be lighter than the 16" (tires: P215/55/R16) used in RSX.
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http://motioncars.com/autobuzz/articles12/honda_rsx.html
This 4-door (technically 5 if you include the hatchback trunk) RSX resembles a Dodge Stratus sedan.
http://www.vtec.net/news/items/754.html
Thanks for your help.
If you program in your destination before you leave, you should never have to look at it while you are driving. (it auto-corrects if you miss a turn or something)
I wound't pay much extra for a nav system, but I've tried them out in a few cars and they work really well. I have never really like the idea of having a man that's about 3 foot long 2 foot wide either. Too much of a pain to unfold and find where you are.
If you need NAV they make handhelds now and you can have NAV in all your cars.