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This past weekend without notice, the car started making a very bad noise. It sounded like a diesel truck. The oil light started flashing. Ironically, I was about a mile from the Jag dealer. I limped it there, was given a loaner, they said they would call.
They called, needs a new engine, blown. 24K miles. They are telling me that unless I have proof of oil changes that it is not going to be covered under warranty. $10,000 to fix. I do not have proof, in fact, they are telling me that the original oil filter is on the car and that they have pictures to prove it. I just moved to Kansas from Florida. I had a complete shopping list of items that were wrong with the car when I took it for service in late 2003, I was also at about 9k miles at that time. I wanted and thought the 10K service was done at that time but apparently it was not. However, in looking at the service documentation today, they had done a S939 Campaign, Oil Cooler Outlet Hose, basically a recall. What does this do and could that have caused this problem?
Basically, jag is telling me too bad. Blown engine, my fault.
Take oil changes of the table completely. Car had oil, no indicator light ever until this problem. I find it hard to believe that essentially a new car with 24k miles that per Jag has missed two oil changes, would blow.
I am look for advice, please help.
You may need an attorney on this one, and perhaps he can work the oil cooler line angle for you. But without oil change proof, you are in a kind of tough spot here.
To me no matter what, a engine with 24k miles or 8k miles per year, should not blow unless there was no oil. For Jag this is an easy out to something I think is bigger than two oil changes.
Can't prove it, so what do you do?
Anybody want to buy a nice looking Jag?
It states on my service record, the following:
M Oil Cooler Outlet Hose S939
Cause: Comply with S939 Campaign
129211 X400 Engine Oil Cooler Oulet Pipe Hose
TOTHERMOS TAT Housing Securing Clip
Service Fix
317 WARJ
1 C2S-26989 Clamp-Hose
I would really like to know why they needed to do this and if this could possibly be a cause to my blown 24,000 mile engine.
So, two questions...
What is the proper jump starting procedure for this car?
and
Is starting and driving the car every 2-3 weeks not often enough?
Did you actually get a reply from anyone regarding your issue? I went out this morning and had the same identical issue with my 2001 Jag XJ8 except I can get the gear shift out of park.
Connell
With the new battery it works great.
Their offer to help you fix your car is a very generous one. You should take their offer and be grateful that they are willing to do as much as they are. You have no leverage over them. You were offered a service contract and refused it. You signed an FTC buyers form stating that you purchased the car as is, or with whatever minimal warranty the dealer offered. Because you purchased the car as is, you undoubtedly had the car checked out by your mechanic. Why don't you ask him if he will fix your trans? As for the trans having 36k miles. Major components of cars at salvage yards come mostly from cars that have been purchased at salvage auctions. These cars have their mileage recorded by law. There is a very good chance that this trans has correct miles. The fact that the dealer is willing to go beyond what is legally required of him implies to me that he is honorable and trying to keep you from getting financially slaughtered by some other shop or dealer that owes you nothing, and is looking to make their rent and boat payments one you.
My advice is to take what the dealer is offering and not whine. It sounds like he is trying to help you and not hurt you. As far as warranty on the transmission; that would be the salvage yards responsibility. If you have a reputable dealer, he probably deals with reputable sources. Many salvage businesses will offer extended warranties on their parts if you pay them a premium on the part. The dealer is paying someone to install the trans for you. If it fails in 11 months, he will have to pay someone to install another one. This is not complicated. You will be responsible for this expense. The $567.00 is a small amount to gamble for getting your car back in working order. You gambled more than that when you purchased your $15000+ car and declined to purchase an extended service contract. Fixing it at the Jaguar dealer could be $3500 or greater. Take what the dealer is offering and thank him for his help. He will undoubtably be a good source for you in the future when you need other service. Not that he is going to fix your car forever, but he can help you get service done at a reasonable cost. They do this for a living, and don't pay retail for car repairs. They have the connections that you don't.
regards,
Goodcar
My 1992 xj40 3.2 has developed a strange problem....When the key is in the off position or removed from the car, the hazard lights flash !!! No way to stop them without disconnecting the battery. When i start the car they stop and the car runs perfectly........Think it might be a fault with the alarm system. Any ideas?,
Thanks,
Will
But as to what constitutes a "tune up"
that is up for grabs---so you might very well ask the dealer to enumerate what he is going to do to your car and for how much.
Fluid flush isn't part of a "tune up" but may be part of a "major service"---yet another totally vague term that can be used to gang up on you if you aren't careful.
Basically it's your job to read over the list of scheduled tasks and make sure they don't pile on useless profit-makers, like "engine additives" or "body protectorants" or "fuel stabilizers", blah blah blah.
Fluid flushes can be a good idea if it's been a long time for certain components. I'm a big fan of coolant and brake fluid flushes every 2-3 years.
Check your owner's manual, it will tell you a lot about this.
beautiful car, actually my dream car :shades: , and the mechanic during
pre-purchase inspection said it had been excellently maintained. But
lately, as the season has changed and it has become colder- the engine
takes some time to turn over. I have heard this is a common problem
with Jaguars? Is that correct? And what is the reason for that? What
should I do? I changed the battery and am assuming a tune up would
help? Lastly, is there a website available that identifies these types
of common problems with this model? Thanks.
Probably a good tune up and using synthetic oil will improve your situation. Synthetic oil is much easier for the engine parts to plow through when it's cold outside.
Had it towed to the dealer and they said the cause of the "check engine" light was that I needed a new "brake switch" as for the "limp mode" of my transmission they said i needed a new transmission. My car has 103k miles on it and from all of the checking around I've done with transmission manufacturer's as well as technicians they say I should be able to get at least 180k to 200k miles out of this transmission.
Does anyone know if the "brake switch" actually shuts down the transmission (by computer signal) or do you think I need a new transmission? I have not had any problems whatsoever or had any kind of sign that something is/was wrong with my transmission. PLease Advise ASAP~
Thank You.
is this year and model a dependable vehicle?
Understanding Extended Warranties
I ultimately parked the car and turned it off hoping that when I turned the car back on it would stop this strange behavior.
When I did turn the car back on, it started immediately and the steering wheel commenced moving around on its own just as before.
One thing new was discovered. I could not move the gear shift. It was stuck in park and the car could not be driven.
I will be calling the mechanic tomorrow but would appreciate any thoughts on this.
I am hoping that this is a simple fix - either the steering wheel memory malfunctioned or a blown fuse and that whatever the problem, that I or if necessary a mechanic can remedy the problem easily.
Over the last couple of years we've had our share of late model Jags in our shop... First an S-type that needed the plugs replaced (under the intake manifold...great place to put 'em)... our mech replaced them but swapped the "UNMARKED" vacuum and intake manifold water lines and yep... you guessed it... hydrolock...!!! Blew the back (passenger side) rod through the block and pan... I'm still paying the bill for that one... thank goodness the local Ford dealer had the SHO piston, rod and bearings in stock... welded up the hole in the block & pan......What engineer puts identical hoses next to each other and doesn't mark the inlets (or make the GI-proof...!!)??? Next, a VDP comes in for water hoses.. again under the intake... requires about 2 weeks to get the parts... replace 'em... and gee.. it won't start... check compression... NO (or little)COMPRESSION, in any cylinders...!!! Checking around we find that 98-2000 engines lose their nicasil cylinder lining at about 50-75K miles... oil down the walls with 80-90 weight gear oil and wow... it starts...!!! Quick get it out of the shop before something else happens..!!! (amazingly the owners are still driving it... they just always make sure they start it once a day...!!!!
Finally, day before yesterday my neighbor with a 1999 XJS calls with a no-start problem... we tow it in and find no compression on #1 (on the drivers side)... bore-scope the cylinders and find the exhaust valves not moving... remove the valve cover and found the secondary timing chain broken because the plastic tensioner came unbonded from it's mount and jammed in between the chain and sprocket...!!!! Call the dealership in Houston who sez they've "had a bunch of those failures... parts are about $2200 (assuming no bent valves) and labor about the same... AllData shows 32 hours to change all chains and parts...!!! This is second "no-start" failure on this car.. last year, shortly after buying the car it was in shop having "paintless dent removal" guy massaging out a couple of dings in the left rear quarter panel and when we went to start it.. No start...!!! Had it towed to Houston (no Jag dealer here in Corpus) where they found a bad "body control module" had failed...!!! Just sitting there...!!!
Another good looking, good riding late model Jag, sittin' by the road waiting for someone to take pitty on it...!!!
Epilog...Local Jag expert just closed shop.. went into house building business... and, new sign on the front of our shop...NO JAG WORK ACCEPTED.!!!
You decide... would you buy one...!!!!