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Depending on the State that you live in? I live in Texas and was just quoted $30,200 (plus tt&l) for an Eddie Bauer that was loaded.
I have a question: What happens if I accidentally shift from 4H to 4L while the vehicle is moving? will this ruin the transmission? or will it just not shift, since the car is supposed to be stopped when shifting into 4L?...Anyone know the answer to this? thanks for your help!
Hope this helps!
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thanks again!
Getting into 4L is a TWO step process. First, you MUST shift the transmission into neutral. THEN, you turn the switch to 4L and you will be in low range. Should you "accidently" turn the switch to 4L with the tranny in "D", NOTHING happens until the transmission is shifted into neutral. If you leave the switch in 4L, and then parked your truck, when you start it again, you will be in 4L, because you went through neutral on the way to "P".
You'll know it if you are in low range. It will accellerate like a jackrabbit, but you won't get up to any speed. Also, the transfer case will whine. At least mine does.
This is almost an idiot-proof system, but be sure to read the owner's manual and do some experimenting on your own.
Let's not forget what is going on here. When switching in or out of 4L, you are actually shifting the transfer case, just as if you had a shift lever attached to it. The reason I wouldn't attempt it while moving is simply because I wouldn't want to damage the transfer case by shifting it when "pieces" (gears) are still moving inside it. If you tried it, and blew up the transfer case, Ford would likely have a very dim view of replacing it under warranty. IMHO, its best to follow the guidelines in the owner's manual in this case.
I have four-wheeled quite a bit, in many vehicles, and virtually all of them require you to be stopped when shifting in or out of 4L. This is something you are only going to do when off-roading on REALLY narly sections of trail, where you MUST proceed at a snail's pace, with lots of torque available. You WON'T ever use 4L on the street, unless you're trying to extricate yourself from a snow drift (where you WILL be stopped), or some such occasion where tons of torque is needed (stump pulling?).
On my 2001 EB Expy:
1. HOW do i program the homelink with my Overhead Garage door opener? the instructions online don't come close to working! anyone had any experience with homelink and that particular brand of opener?
2. My rear sensor signal went off today, and continued to sound a constant tone every time i backed up, even though there was nothing near me or behind me. It did this about five times this afternoon, and now everything is fine (i.e., it no longer goes off when it shouldn't). Has anyone had experience of false signal from the reverse sensor?
Any input is appreciated, thanks!
I had to call Homelink to get specific instructions for my Sears opener.
The backup sensor "sees" objects off to the side, as well as down low. Mine detects curbs and beeps like crazy, even though curbs are low, and won't be hit by the rear of the truck.
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Also, my right turn signal does not always engage. Sometimes, it will blink very quickly. Also, passenger side window does notroll down. Anycomments greatly appreciated.
I love the vehicle, but it seems as though it is one problem after another.
JJ
1. Are they located in the floor or in the ceiling ?
2. Can you get A/C and heat out of these ?
controls for the rear but if you just have the standard rear vents the temp./velocity for the rear vents is what ever the front A/C or heat are set at. Right ??
The reason I asked, is that a dealer is selling a new 2001 XLT 4WD with the only option being the 5.4V8 for 26,995 after all incetives and rebates. I was worried about not having rear AC and heat in something that large and thought I could only get it if I ordered the "Convenience Group".
You say that without the Auxilary AC/Heat option
the velocity controls and diverter(vents) are on the rear of the console. When I checked the Standard items on the XLT this AM they do not list a floor or ceiling console as Standard but as
an Option as part of the "Convenience Group". Does the XLT come Standard with a floor console where the controls and vents are located ?
Not sure about the answer to your question. Maybe someone in here who has priced one recently could help??
awai
Expys weigh around 5k lbs, not 7. You should reset the mpg, and then cocentrate on trying to fill accurately. Mine takes a solid 3 gallons after the pump has kicked off.
In any event, has anyone else had any similar problems with the reverse sensing system? I'd appreciate any input or suggestions. I have cleaned off the sensors so it is not just some mud or other debris causing this problem.
Thanks.
What I've noticed is the combination of heat and sunlight. It'll work fine when I back out of my garage on hot days (beep momentarily until I pass the threshold, then stop, then beep again as I close in on vehicles parked on the opposite curb) and at night. It acted funny last summer, too, but was fine all winter.
I haven't wanted to deal with the dealer on this and - perhaps like Ken131 - was hoping that someone "in the know" will detail exactly what the problem might be, and - most important - what the cure is before I blaze the warranty trail with Ford.
Let me add my two cents on some other recent topics:
I've got ~8600 miles on my 2000 EB 5.4 now; I've never reset the meter and when I last checked it about 2 weeks ago, it read 12.7 mpg.
I recently swapped my 17" Wilderness ATs for Michelin Cross Terrain SUVs... Sears had 'em on sale. I dropped the Firestone's off at my local dealer, who processed the rebate (two weeks and counting on that). Haven't had 'em on wet pavement yet (I thought the Firestone's were less than steady there), but a noticeably smoother, slightly quieter ride (which is what you'd expect).
One of these days, I'll take alwaysfords advice and replace the shocks with the Edlebrock IAS he seems to prefer (having monitored this forum for around 18 months now, I've come to trust his judgment - thanks alwaysfords!). I've gotten a little tired of listening to my mother-in-law click her tongue whenever she's riding with us and we bounce it bit (it's kind of funny really watching her through the rear-view bouncing around and holding onto the grasp handles for dear life... even better when the kids want her to sit in the middle between them - no handles. Man... I'm getting cruel in my old age.
Gotta get the mobile entertainment system (wasn't offered by Ford until '01). Was waiting for aftermarket DVD systems to hit and for prices to come down, which it seems that they are. So, someday soon...
All in all, love the truck. No problems to date (except for the rear sensing system)... I get the poor mileage and truck ride I expected. It's a real eye-opener the first time you gas up using a credit card and the pump automatically shuts off at $50 and the tank's not full yet. BTW - the truck's got a 30-gallon gas tank, although Ford only lists at at 26, and that's around where the pump shuts off. Hence the ability to squeeze 3-4 additional gallons in (but ya gotta know when to stop!). A post I'd read long ago attributed this to the shape of the gas tank.
I am one of the idiots that forget that my headlights are on, I need this feature.
The other problem I am getting is that occasionaly the sensor will turn itself off when I start the truck. Pressing the sensor on/off button will not turn it back on, I must first drive several feet forward before it will allow itself to be turned back on. Has anyone else experienced this? As I cannot recreate the problem on a consistant basis I hesitate to take it to the dealership.
I also had Ford install the remote starter - while it works fine, I have found that I can start my vehicle by pressing the automatic lock buttons twice. Has anyone else had this occur. As the vehicle isn't drivable without the key I am not worried about someone taking it, but it could definately be scary for someone who doesn't know what is goin on. Imagine locking the doors and the truck suddenly starts up.
I bought my fully loaded EB for 35,500 which included a 5 yr 75 k warranty in April 2000.Moonroof,reverse sensing and side air bags too. Edmunds list this truck at 27,400.00 now. OUCH,almost 8 k depreciation in 15 months,you gotta be kidding me,and this is dealer retail. Are they not selling for around 35 k now for the same options year 2001?
Please explain.
P.S. Ill sell mine for 29,500 if any one is intrested.>17000 miles wedgewood blue
Too much expensive gasoline.
Not enough money in the right hands.
Even the Toyota Sequoia is selling at just above invoice. The economy needs to recover before prices will recover.
Now I need to visit a dealer and get rid of that Firestone spare!
Depreciation on Ford SUV's seems to be increasing all around. I bought a new '00 Explorer 4x4 in November '00. The sticker was $29.5K. Now, 8 months later, the trade-in value is $17.5K. That is really significant.
I think, for Explorer anyway, the Firestone debacle has lead to significantly reduced resale. Plus the fact that seemingly "everyone" drives an an Explorer.
I also think that the manufacturers help perpetuate the relatively dismal resale values by releasing 2002 models in the first 4 or 5 months of 2001. As soon as they do this, one year is automatically added to the age of existing vehicles. Even though my Explorer is 8 months old it is considered a 2yr old vehicle on the secondary market. Oh well.
I am seriously considering buying my next vehicle on the secondary market; let someone else take the depreciation hit. The used car market is currently full of fantastic deals.
Moral of the story DO NOT buy a new truck from a dealer unless your prepared to loose you shirt.
God help us all!
The market for large and midsize SUV's is getting more competitive by the day.
I'm going to wait another 6 months. The economy will get worse before it gets better and more SUV supply will hit the market.
1. At 46K miles, the EXP started "bucking" at 65mph, the check engine light came on - a leak in hose caused antifreeze to drip on spark plug (Ford dealer said he's worked on 7 Expeditions with the same problem - why hasn't there been a recall???;
2. Windshield wiper fluid for front window wouldn't squirt (one for rear window works fine!) My '97 had a recall for this....
3. Intermittent starter problems (about every 20 times the truck was started, a horrendous sound occurred as if you were starting the truck, but it's already running) at 50K damaged the starter and flywheel - first Ford dealer told me there was no problem; the 2nd found it.
4. Driver side window motor quit, then window regulator needing replacing.
The Goodyear Wrangler RT/S tires have lasted 64k miles, and will need to be replaced soon. The ride is much harder than the '97 with the same tires - might need new shocks also. My husband just put BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A tires on his GMC pickup, and the ride is terrific. Wondered if anyone had any experience with BF Goodrich replacement tires on their Expedition? And what kind of shocks are recommended for a smoother ride?
I still love the truck despite the problems, but that's probably my fault for buying a used truck with 42K miles from a bad dealer. It handles great, and the visibility is excellent.
As far as gas mileage, although the '97 was a 4.6L, and the '98 is a 5.4L, the mileage isn't that bad for the increase in pick-up (15-16 around town, and 18-19mpg on the highway) - I reset the mileage computer after every fill-up.
I'm big on preventive maintenance (oil change every 3K miles) and requested a tune-up from the local Firestone sevice center. They couldn't do the tune-up, but if they could, for this SUV it would cost $239, because they need special equipment (that they don't have) and because of all the items blocking the plugs/attached to the plugs? Has anyone experienced this? Will the Ford service manager's eyes light up with $$$$ when I schedule the tune-up? Even the fuel filter replacement cost double because of the extra labor with the skid plate in the way.
Just wondered if anyone else had some info...
Thanks!
I also would echo my shock at the extreme drop in resale value. Our Expedition has lost as much value in 18 months as our Volvo V70 did in 3 years! Guess we'll keep the Expedition until the sucker dies!