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Ford Expedition



  • rickc5rickc5 Posts: 378
    I'm not aware of a volume control on the reverse sensing system, but my wife and I have no problem hearing ours. I would have your Ford dealer look at it. Maybe the speaker is being blocked by something. We really find the reverse sensing system to be very useful, but it does sense curbs in addition to other objects.

    BTW- We have had our EB since January. It now has almost 6000 miles on it without a single problem. We have taken it on two road trips and love the ride and handling at freeway speeds.

    Our only complaint is the lousy mileage (about 15 mpg), but we knew about that prior to buying it.
  • ejzejz Posts: 18
    Just bought a 2001 EB 4X4 with the Premier group. The Arizona Beige is a very nice color. It also came with the rear entertainment system (LCD screen and VCR). I was wondering if anyone recieved any documentation about this system with theirs? I did not get any info. Really want to find out if there is some way to attach a Nintendo 64 to the system for long trips. Also, any tips about good sources for interior accessories (mats, rear center console, etc.) would also be appreciated. Hoping to keep this for a long time so anything to watch for would also be appreciated.
  • breezeebreezee Posts: 9
    Just for the record, I've never used anything but regular gas in my '98 Navigator and never heard a ping. I don't know if the newer 300HP motors are any different, but mine is fine.

    Anyone buying a 2001 Expy or Nav should really wait a couple of months for the new 2002 models unless you want to take advantage of the 0% financing deal they are giving now to clear the inventory. GM also announced incentives on their F/S SUVs. Part inventory, part gas prices, part bragging rights I think.

    For those of you looking to buy an aftermarket extended warranty on a US-Built 4 X 4, try this... 5 years/100,000 miles for $845, Asian-built is $790. Call 800-352-7676 Heritage Insurance Company. I don't use them, but they are out there advertising. Worth a look.

  • klkrauseklkrause Posts: 96
    You'll have to wait more than a few months for the 2002 models. Job 1 is currently scheduled for November, which means early 2002 before vehicles are at the dealerships. Also, the Job 1 date could always be moved back!
  • ranwinranwin Posts: 15
    I've noticed the door panel on my 01 Expedition states the PSI for my Goodyear RTS 255/70R16 tires is 30 front and 35 rear. Is anyone running them at that pressure?
  • Isnt the Expedition due for a facelift for next year? The expedition might as well be canceled due to the growing explorer and Excursion, Ford's only chance to save the Expedition would be to make a massive facelift in order to save the large SUV.
  • jstephen1jstephen1 Posts: 1
    I just survived a roll-over accident in my 1995 Ford Explorer. We are in the process of investigating the Firestone Wilderness tires that were on the car at the time. I am looking to purchase a used 1999 Ford Expedition. My wife was injured and is now terrified to get into anything smaller than a mid-size SUV. I have been reading about the vibration that the Expedition has along with many other problems. I am looking for a safe family car. Please share your likes and dislikes.
  • joelisjoelis Posts: 315
    Does it include the Wilderness AT's on our 17" rims?
  • rickc5rickc5 Posts: 378
    I also read about the vibrations before we bought our 2001 EB Expy in January. From what I can gather, MOST of the vibration complaints are on Expys that have the load-leveling suspension. Apparently the system somehow gets mis-aligned and must be re-calibrated at the dealer to fix the problem. I drove three new Expys on long, extended test drives before buying one. I never felt any vibrations, even at freeway speeds. None of the trucks I tested had the load-leveling suspension either.

    After five months and 6000 miles, we are very pleased with our Expy. We've taken two long road trips and find it very comfortable on the highway. We haven't had a single problem so far.

    Our only complaint would be the gas mileage. We have the 5.4 engine and only get 14-15 mpg. But, that's only a smidge less than the Isuzu Trooper we traded in. The Expy is a big, heavy truck, which should mean that it would be safer in an accident. I hope we never have to find out.

    BTW- This is only my opinion, but I wouldn't have Firestone tires on ANY vehicle. I switched to Michelins on our Expy and am VERY pleased with them.
  • rickc5rickc5 Posts: 378
    The Expedition will be completely re-done for 2002. New body and, get this, improved mileage, by 2-4 mpg! Supposedly much better aerodynamics.

    If Ford can keep from repeating history, and produce a trouble-free new truck from day 1, they could easily put a significant dent in Sequoia and Tahoe sales. Let's see if they're up to the challenge.
  • klkrauseklkrause Posts: 96
    As stated before by a few people, the '02 Expedition will be very new. In fact, they will be offering a new diesel engine in some models! I just heard, though, that the launch has been delayed again ... probably until Spring of '02 instead of January/February. It's supposed to be a nice vehicle ... many of the engineers are bragging that it's going to blow the Sequoia away!
  • pwaspwas Posts: 34
    I also have just taken a 5 hour trip with my family in our expedition with the prem sport package w/ 17 inch wheels, 4.6 engine. Gas mileage was also good. I drove from wash dc to greensboro nc on a full tank and had a little over a quarter of a tank left. No problems drove fine with no wheel vibrations, smooth, quiet. The horsepower of the 4.6 was sufficient did well. I also think that the wheel vibrations are those probably with the load level suspension and possibly the chrome wheels that come with the eddie bauer's.
  • joelisjoelis Posts: 315
    My wife's vehicle has had them from day 1, between 62-67 mph.

    It's a 2000 XLT Sport 4x4.
  • pwaspwas Posts: 34
    joelis, which engine do you have? Do you all think it might have something to do with the weight ratio between the 5.4 engine or 4.6 ?
  • carguy5000carguy5000 Posts: 146
    I cannot wait for the diesel option, I plan to be the first one on the block with one. The only thing that will stink is if the keep delaying it, they are sure to badge it a 2003 model, then I will have to wait!
    btw...I have a '00 EB with load level and 14k, NO vibration problems!
  • rickc5rickc5 Posts: 378
    Ford will reimburse you up to $130 per tire if you have ALREADY replaced the Wilderness AT tires on your Expedition between August of 2000 and yesterday (May 22nd, 2001). Or, you can replace them now and your dealer will reimburse you. You must have your ORIGINAL receipt.

    Check out for all the details and the refund form.

    Run out and buy your new tires TODAY, before they're all gone.
  • alwaysfordsalwaysfords Posts: 210
    I'm on board with joelis. The vibrations that are predominantly in this topic are not related to LLS or chrome wheels. A few people posted about vibrations when first started and some attributed it to the LLS coming on. The rest of the complaints are at 60-67mph. I too have had the issue since day 1. The last time I was in (out of 8 times) they changed course and decided that it was a harmonic in the exhaust up near the manifold that is present at all speeds at 1600 rpm, but only significant enough to notice between 60-67. A load of crap as far as I am concerned. CT voted against my arbitration bid for a replacement based on the fact that the condition did not constitute significant loss of value or utility.
  • divergdiverg Posts: 7
    Has anyone out there leased a 2001 Expy recently? I am going to be going in soon and i'd like some feedback. My goal is to put very little down, and I'm in the North East so a 4X4 is a must. I am not overly concerned with ED or not. - seem the biggest difference is leather (don't care) but I will need the running boards.
    Please let me know. Thanks!
  • klkrauseklkrause Posts: 96
    I'd get the diesel in a heart beat, too. I was incorrect about my earlier statement of pushing back Job 1 again. They still plan to start production in early January, so Expeditions would start shipping a couple of months after that, assuming no major quality issues with the first builds. The diesel, though, is going to be a late addition to the '02 model ... I'm not yet sure when, though.
  • sencsenc Posts: 44
    My 2001 has the 4.6L, alumninum wheels and no LLS, and I have the vibration, most noticable at same speeds others have, at approx. 65 mph. I even replaced the Wilderness AT's with Michelins and the problem is exactly the same. I then rotated the front wheel and tire to the back to rule out the wheel and tire. Again, problem exactly the same. My bet is the rear axle alignment is not right and would need to be replaced, but how could some axles be good and some bad? Other than the shaking all the way down the highway, this vehicle is tight. I had an early one when they came out and it was rock solid. I'm disappointed with the vibration though, and have ruled out buying a 2002 Explorer to replace my 99 ML320. I mean, how can I feel good when the truck is nice, but shakes you down the road? Like someone else posted, it's very subtle but once you notice it, it will drive you nuts. This is why I leased this one, which I have never done. In two years, it's someone else's problem. I work too hard for my money to be stuck..
  • carguy5000carguy5000 Posts: 146
    " This is why I leased this one, which I have never done. In two years, it's someone else's problem. I work too hard for my money to be stuck"...What, are you using Monopoly money to make your lease payments?
    I would assume that you work just as hard for the loot to make your lease payments as you would to make loan installments.
    I would still try to get the situation tended to since it IS yours for the next two years!
  • pwaspwas Posts: 34
    How do you like the 4.6 engine performance and gas mileage? What are the major differences you see in the 2001 vs the previous expedition that you owned? what are the improvements. Do the michelins ride better than the firestones? are they smoother and quieter?
  • sencsenc Posts: 44
    You are correct; money for lease or purchase is real money; I'm just not going to be stuck with a vehicle that will require numerous visits to the shop and reduced trade value in the event knowledge of the Expy vibration problem spreads. I suspect the owners of late-model Explorers(great vehicles-I had 3 of them with NO problems/bad tires,in my opinion) are worse off than those who leased them since Explorer resale value has plummeted. The lease holder will just drive it to the lot and turn it in. I do intend to continue to get them to solve the problem on the Expy. The wife drives it and I want her happy with it..I just don't understand how you go to great lengths to make it noise free, rattle free, comfortable, but, the rear-end shakes; Ford could find it if they would assign engineers to it, rather than let dealer service depts. field the complaints..
  • dardson1dardson1 Posts: 696
    I trade every 2 years, rain or shine. Decided to trade out of my 98 EXP for a Toyota Sienna last year. Seemed like a wise thing to do considering gas prices. I do 95% of my driving in town. City milage in my EXP was 13 around town on regular unleaded gas. My Sienna gets 16.5 mpg around town on premium. If you're gonna compare apples to apples, you gotta subtract 10% from the Sienna milage (as premium is 10% more) giving me a net dollar for dollar 14.85 mpg in the Sienna. For all practical purposes the Sienna has a 1.85 mpg advantage. At 1000 miles a month we're talking 20 bucks a month difference. Speaking from experience, you get a hell-of-a-lot more car in an Expedition over a minivan and well worth the $270 a year in added gasoline. Wish I had mine'm working on it.
  • carguy5000carguy5000 Posts: 146
    .....keep working, I know you can do it!!!
    This morning, the Expo was black....the battery gods got me!! Got too used to the automatic lights. Yesterday, it rained all day, had to override the auto switch and put the fogs on as well (might as well use 'em). Got home, put it in the garage and forgot that I had turned the lights on manually. Needless to say, I was reminded this morning!
  • sencsenc Posts: 44
    It's hard to compare the 2 I have owned. The early one was an EB with all options. The nly thing I hated about it was the LLS, which clicked all the time. It could have been fixed but I never had time to take it in. Also, that one had no vibration that I ever noticed. The one I have now is an XLT 2wd with cloth(trying to save a few $$) and the only complaints I have is that it has rear vibration, shocks are TOO soft(you roll around turns) and it dumped all the rear-end fluid on my garage floor on day 2, requiring a week in the shop. That didn't do much for my confidence in Ford. The sad part is I have always had good luck with Ford, but there are alot of horror stories out there, and the service depts can't keep up and Ford(and prob. most other mfgrs. refuse to stand by their product. They even claim delaers are indep. busineeses and they 'can't do anything' about them. That is bull, because I know some dealers and the mfgr has a heavy hand on them and flexes their muscle all the time. They just don't want to back up the product they produce anymore.
    The Michelins do ride better, and I was hoping that would elim. the vibration, but it is about the same. I have the same Michelins on a ML320 and they improved it considerably. I will probably never buy anything but Michelins. My guess is Firestone will be history very soon. The continue to deny the problem is theirs, but they are 'making upgrades in materials and design....'. What a PR fiasco.
  • boonsboroboonsboro Posts: 22
    I have the Firestone tires on my 2000 Exp. Does anyone have recommendations on a good replacement tire? Ford lists 3 replacements for P265/70R17 -- Goodyear Wrangler RT/S, BF Goodrich Radial Long Trail T/A, and Michelin LTX M/S. Does anyone have these tires on their SUV?

    From the Ford web site I see that we can be reimbursed up to $130 per tire or the dealer will swap them for free. Check out for more details on the recall.

  • sanandtonsanandton Posts: 342
    I had my Firestones changed out to the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S 17" before I would take delivery. That was 6 months and 15k miles ago. The ride is superb and very quiet. Not sure about the tread life. They are wearing even, and still look strong, but someone else posted only 40k out of theirs in past.
    On the other hand the Michelins can't be beat. I would have had those instead, except there was a shortage at the time.
  • sencsenc Posts: 44
    I went with the Michelin LTX M/S and have them on both vehicles. They are great tires and should last a long time, but I probably will not go beyond 40K miles because I like plenty of tread even though they would not be considered worn out. Hydroplaning is just no fun! I paid $150/tire mounted and balanced, no bargain, but got what I paid for..
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