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Click on 1) Files
2) Toyota - "All Things Toyota"
3) TSB's
4) TC folder
5) tc007t.pdf ('07 Camry V6 - U660E
SHIFT FLARE CONCERNS)
Or have they heard of a dealership aknowledging that the tsb is out there?
Thanks
Resolvment with issues goes back to the efficiency of your dealer working with the manufacturer, Toyota.
COMUS.
So far, my flare has been gone! :-)
I have a 2007 Camry SE V6 with the U660E 6 speed automatic transaxle, produced Kentucky 08/06.
My problem was a ONCE after each engine start 3rd to 4th shift slip (flare), afterwhich my transaxle would seem to work normally.
Since getting the car back yesterday, I've driven the car 4 times, and haven't had any shift slips (flares) at all.
I know this is pretty preliminary, not having had a chance to drive this car for several hundred miles to see if this fix lasts.
So far I'm happy, and the re-flash has made a difference with my transaxle.
Thanks
So I'm not a real good judge yet.
Maybe after I've driven it more?
( Course if I had my way, I wish it shifted fast and firm like it had a "shift kit", because I hate smooth mushy shifting automatics. )
Quick and firm shifts reduce the time spent shifting, and gain you a little quicker acceleration.
Even if it "barks" the tires under hard acceleration is OK with me.
I own a 2007 V6 Camry XLE with 9,300 miles that was purchased in January. I DO NOT have any of the problems that you see posted on this site! That does not mean that problems do not exist, but they are not in every vehicle! If they were in every vehicle, this site would be loaded with postings.
I like my Camry. On June 25th, I am scheduled to bring the vehicle into the service department for the 10,000 mile service. I change the oil and filter every 2,500 miles, (my choice). On a long road trip I get 30+ mpg!
Best regards. ---- Dwayne :shades:
It been one big hassel owning this car!
My girlfriend just bought a new Camry about 2 weeks ago and now have about 1200 miles on it....I drove it over the weekend from Baton Rouge to New Orleans which is about a 80-miles drive...I've experienced some things that I wasn't sure was normal with the car or not and was hoping someone on here cold help me out.
1) While driving in cruise control, at every little incline the car would down=shift abruptly to maintain the speed, in my opinion its very unnecessary and the jerking is very annoying....is anyone else experiences this and is this normal or is there a fix for this...
2) Secondly, while driving, the car veers to the right when I let go of the steering wheel, this should be a new car and I expect for the alignment to be correct and straight, but when my girlfriend called her dealership today, they told her that "its a safety feature..", I'm thinking that the dealership is giving her the stone-wall telling her something so she wouldn't have to bring it in....she took it in anyways and they took it for a test drive and the tech said it was "normal"....again is anyone experiencing the same thing???
3) I've also read about the hesitation problem on here, and its seems her car has the same problem....is there anything we can do about this problem....better yet how can I get the dealership to fix her car...
thanks for taking the time to read this thread and I hope someone would be able to help us....thanks in advance
I was scheduled to take my Camry in for it's 10,000 mile service on June 25, but I tend to put on the mileage very quickly, so I took it in last Monday. The vehicle has had four oil & filter changes to date, (about every 2,500 miles / my choice).
The transmission has no issues.-----(This does not mean that the "problems" do not exist, rather, it only indicates that my Camry does not have the issues that I see on this site.)---- Would I purchase this vehile again? ---- After owning it for 10,000 miles, I love the comfort and the ride of the vehicle. I would like to see a better quality in terms of the interior materials. The rug material is of a lower quality compared to the Honda Accord. Thank God that I have the rubber floor mats to protect the rugs!!!!!!!! I think that "Toyota Quality" has gone down a few notches with the 2007 model year. How much more would it have cost to put a "quality rug" in this vehicle. Even the leather seats could be of a better quality! The XLE is the "top of the Camry Line"!
The engine is very strong and powerful. The vehicle has excellent "pick-up" when entering onto the highway! I would love to be able to take this vehicle on the open road somewhere, and see what it could really do in terms of speed. I know that it could easily reach 100mph without a problem.
If I were in the market for another vehicle in 2008, I would look at the Camry, the Chevrolet Impala, the Buick line and the Ford / Mercury line. --------- (I would never consider a Chrysler product. They have GREAT body designs, but very poor mechanical quality! Chrysler could be a "leader" in the American vehicle business if they improved their quality and customer relations skills.)--- I would also look at the Honda Accord to see if the seating has changed. Basically, I am happy with my Camry purchase. Mechanically the vehicle has NO problems, and the ride is GREAT. I get out of the vehicle on a long trip without any aches and pains, and that issue in itself is worth having this vehicle.
Best regards. ------Dwayne :shades:
The cruise control and hesitation problems have been fixed on the 4cyl LE, there was a TSB released last year.
TSB056-06. These problems happened during the very early build cars last year, check your VIN number, you must have an old car even though just purchased.
Your car should track straight, and not veer to the right. Have the alignment checked. Take it to another dealer if you have to, doesn't sound like your dealer is real swift.
I suspect I'd never experience it because of the manner in which I drive seldom merging onto busy higher speed roads.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
ST005-01: REPAIR MANUAL SUPPLEMENT: VEHICLE PULLING TO ONE SIDE (REVISED)
You might be correct in your assessment of my driving habits. I tend to prepare myself for "moves" way in advance on the road. When entering a highway, I make it a point to position my vehicle so that no other vehicle is in front of me on the entrance ramp. In this situation, I can control my entrance / acceleration into the flow of traffic. On occasion, I do put the trasmission into "passing gear" by stepping hard on the accelerator. I hold the "down-shift" just long enough to get out of the situation, and then I "back-off" slightly on the accelerator to force an "up-shift"! There is always constant "pressure" on the accelerator. (I DO NOT come off the accelerator completely, and then go back on the accelerator!) I DO NOT "tail gate" while driving!
In city traffic, I use the manual side of the selector. I place the selector in "4," and I let the transmission shift itself from one to four. (I DO NOT shift it manually). This gives me "engine braking" in traffic. Sometimes if the traffic is moving very slow, I will place the transmission selctor in "3," and let the transmission shift itself from one to three.
Yes, my driving style might be eliminating the symptoms of the problem.
I DO NOT believe the "flare / slippage" is in the transmission. Rather it is in the torque converter. If the problem was in the transmission, the clutches and / or bands would be destroyed in less than 100 miles. I think people are experiencing the "locking" and "unlocking" of the torque converter, and under the right circumstances, the "stator" in the torque converter is in a "neutral" (non-torque multiplying position), so for a slip second the torque converter acts like am old "fluid coupling" that was in the vehicles of the 50's. Without a "stator" in the torque converter, the vehicle operates as if it had a fluid coupling. (YES, the driver would experience a "flare," because the "drive member of the converter" would be simply pushing trans fluid into "driven member" without the benefit of the stator!)
Best regards. -----Dwayne :shades:
If you don't want to bother with having that capability, if you email the attachment to me at kiawah@carspace.com (everyone has their own mailbox address, see 'mailbox' in upper right corner), I'll post it.
TSB_ST005-01_Pulling_&_Alignment
Thanks in advance all.
You may not waant to buy a Toyota Camry until they fix the issues? Buyer Beware!
Both Toyota & Honda have some of the best Attorneys in the world. They have been through your situation time & time again. What needs to happen is find a sharp attorney who will pay an Engineer ("Expert Witness") to evaluate the problem. Hard facts need to be presented & then a class action suit can be filed.
When an individual fights a powerful, multi-billion dollar company the end-result is a few thousand dollar payoff to keep the person quiet.
Good luck. Our case is not safety related so I am not expecting too much. Yours is.
I too got the same results as they agreed that I have the rpm flare in my 2007 camry V-6 but gave me the same answer you got.
Let me know how the lemmon layer works out?
Thanks, chuck
Please advise if you have found anything useful about it.
One of those should fix that problem.
If you mean that the transmission goes into neutral for a few seconds while you are slowing down, mine does the same but I did not see that as odd. If your have your foot on the brake preparing to stop, there is no problem. These modern brakes can handle a stop without help from the transmission downshifting. Beside, I hate it when the transmission downshifts when braking. It’s a jolt I’d rather do without.
I see this hesitation as a point in the Software where the program is not sure you have taken your foot off the gas to stop or just to coast. It irritates me when I come over a hill and let off the gas and the car starts to drag instead of coast. My Pontiac / Toyota Vibe would sense that you were costing and the engine would sort of idle and let you go in high gear to increase gas mileage. I’m not so sure the program in the Camry 07 LE knows what to do when I come over the hill. It seems to slip (drift) for a while and then downshift. I hate that.
I think all this added software designed to increase gas mileage, and therefore, sales (as gas heads for 4 dollars) is causing a lot of problems for people who are used to the old analog / vacuum driven slush boxes we used to drive. Am I wrong?
Toyota started to adopt these new "upshift upon throttle lift" back late in the last century as a safety measure.
The camry isn't very intelligent on cruise control, many times the car downshifted to 4th or even 3rd gear when going on a slight grade to maintain speed but would not change gear if cruise control was OFF., engine RPM went really high and I turn it off whenever I approach a hill.
Palpak: I tested the CC on a 2k trip in May. Mine acted like yours and every CC I have ever owned. I suggest to you that your problem is a slight illusion: When you go over an overpass without CC, you are actually not trying to maintain speed, whereas the CC will try as much gas as it needs to do so. Because you need to watch the road and not the speedometer, you do not notice that the needle drops slightly. I know exactly what your point is and I always wished that the lucky stiffs holding the patent on CC would have added a switch to allow a little less control of the speed so that the poor transmission did not have to downshift on every Interstate bridge between here and Omaha, and that has to be about 500+.
There is a TSB to address the lack of power w/cruise control and the continual shifting. Read the forum for my earlier post with TSB 056-06. You can print it off and take it to the dealer. Software update takes about 1/2 hour to install under warranty.
But 2 FPS is still enough to get most of the bridge over-passes. So I hope we are not confusing the two things.
New, final(??) fix for delay/hesitation.
There are a few posts here and there by owners of '07 Avalons that seemingly indicate that Toyota is adopting the same procedure for automatic transaxles that are beginning to be used for FWD and front torque biased AWD vehicles that have a manual transmission. With a manual transmission the driver cannot be restricted from downshifting regardless of roadbed conditions so the new procedure seems to be to rev the engine up to an appropriately higher level to prevent a significantly high, too high, level of engine compression braking on the front wheels when/if the driver inadvertently downshifts in slippery roadbed conditions.
Apparently as of '07 the Avalon (TSB for early production) will now downshift upon a full lift throttle event but will rev up the engine simultaneously to prevent or alleviate any significant level of engine compression braking that might otherwise lead to loss of directional control or interfere unduly with the anti-lock braking system.
Now, apparently, there will be no need for a 1-2 second DBW engine throttle-up delay to allow time for the transaxle to complete the double shift, up on lift-throttle and then down to accelerate, in QUICK sequence.