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  • tuckpanatuckpana Member Posts: 20
    Well finally purchased a 02 Yukon XL, 2wd, autoride, sun roof etc. Thanks to all, been reading and learning here for about a year.

    Questions. Warranties who has best 100,000mi?

    Not necessarily best price but the least hassle when tou try make a claim?

    Will aftermarket warranty cover the autoride?

    jgmilberg (John) how has your painted bug deflector held up?

    Service manuals anyone have the link to buy?

    Thanks again....Gary
  • 03tahoe03tahoe Member Posts: 83
    Even though the GM Card allows "Unlimited Earnings" the real control on your purchases is that they state a certain Maximum REDEMPTIOM ALLOWANCE per model type.
    As of 5-30-02 they list "The maximum redemption allowance" of $1,500.00 for the 2002 Yukon, Yukon XL, Suburban and Tahoe. Running your card up to a higher amount will do no good for this one purchase.
    I`m am not saying that everyone can get the maximum allowance but this is just a published number.
    I must admit I didn`t know of this " maximum redemption allowance " limit until a acquaintance bragged about running his GM up to max every month for three months. Thought I would check on his idea. As often happens if it sounds too good to be true - it usually is not true. You can earn a lot of points - you just may not be able to apply them to your purchase.
  • tuckpanatuckpana Member Posts: 20
    $1500 is the max I used it yesterday, to buy a Yukon XL, tried to get more had just over $1800 they said know way.

    Had a total of $4500 in rebates...
    $2000 from the rebate
    $1500 from the GM card
    $1000 from Gas tank Cert.

    In fact the dealer said I think you got enough rebates....
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Actually it was a mild winter. That weather wasnt nothing. Your lucky you didnt face a blizzard. I went up to the show in just a sweater and i was hot. Parking was a rip off (i think it was like $16 to park outside by soldier field/mccormick place).
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Member Posts: 872
    Weather wasn't that bad, until we decided to walk to the Navy Pier. Man that wind whipped right through me, no lie!! Me and my winter jacket were happy to get inside. We took a Taxi back to the hotel, didn't want to get frozen again. I am glad I did not have to face a Blizzard, I drove there, that really would have hampered my drive home for sure. I didn't have to pay for parking at the show, just valet @ the Hyatt, $11 a day. Took the GM employee/family charter bus over to the show, got in free because my father was working the show. It's a great city, and I want to come back again, for some more touristy stuff, and shopping.
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Member Posts: 872
    Does that restriction still apply to the old card holders? The ones before they came up with unlimited rebate earnings? I have one that caps me off at $500 per year, and I can carry that over for 7 years, for a total of $3500. Can I use the whole $3500 or am I restricted to $1500. The reason I stuck with the old black card is because they told me I can't use my rebate with my employee discount with the new blue/gold/platinum card
  • adunkeradunker Member Posts: 32
    I recieved these from a GM rep. for Chevrolets. I assume the GM replicas will be around the same day.
    2003 Start-Up
    Cavalier 7/15/02
    Impala 6/20/02
    Malibu 6/3/02
    Silverado 8/5/02
    Trailblazer 7/15/02
    Blazer 6/3/02
    Venture 6/17/02
    S-10 6/3/02
    Tahoe 7/29/02
    Suburban 7/29/02
    Avalanche 6/17/02

    The vehicles will normally arrive on dealer lots around 6-8 weeks after the order is placed and started being built.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    I also got in free. Free tix from a known source (cant reveal).

    Ok i have a question for all you Z71 owners

    Today me and my gf went shopping. Seen a nice black Z71 burb. What stuck out to me was the plastic piece on the rear fender. The plastic piece which attaches to the fender flare. Id be interested in something like this (protect against rock chips). How is it attached and would it work? Are the rear fenders on the Z71 Tahoes/Burbs the same as the new (99 and up) silverados? Thanks for any help!!!
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    SOmething doesnt seem right cause the silverados start production in late june/early july. They start arriving on dealer lots enf od july/beginning of august.
  • adunkeradunker Member Posts: 32
    Unfortunatly, that is the date that the Silverados start their 2003 production. That is the same date that last of the 2002's will be built. They won't make it to dealers lots until late September.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    last of the 02's?

    So why does gm have a 2 week shut down in June to stop production of the 02s and to startup the 03 production?
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Member Posts: 872
    Ryan is right, except for the time frame. GM Corporate shutdown is the first 2 weeks of July. The new models will be on the line before the plant closes on June 28th. They will have the line FULL of new '03 production models, and possibly will have 50 to 100 off of the line before the July shutdown. The reason for this is so that if there is a problem with the build, or with testing software, or even the way the jobs are set up on the line with the new options available they can work on fixing them before the line starts back up on July 15th.

    The information adunker got sounds more like dealer pricing information for ordering purposes.
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Member Posts: 872
    I am not sure about the actual fenders, but the contour is the same from the truck to the SUV. I found that out mud flap hunting, the Sub/Tahoe/Silverado mud flaps are all the same. I am talking about the molded ones, not just the flat universal ones.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    sorry bout that the 2 wks shut down starts in june (end of).
  • adunkeradunker Member Posts: 32
    The two week shutdown has already been done on some models. The only two week shut down left is for the Trailblazer(2002 Built out-6/29/02, 2003 Start-up - 7/15/02). Just because I work for a dealer doesn't mean I cannot sort through the paperwork I get to give accurate information.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    adunker,

    One has to make that assumption in order to argue ... and some people just like to argue! ;-)

    tidester
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    SUVs; Aftermarket & Accessories
  • jaw2000jaw2000 Member Posts: 133
    Oh Yeah?

    SOme just like having the last word, please reply, as I am not one of them -- either the 'like' to argue or last word types, but we all know others that this applies better to, fortunately he also does not like American made, so, we'll not see him here anytime soon.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    just for you ... gladly! ;-)

    tidester
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  • tuckpanatuckpana Member Posts: 20
    500mi and really getting to like my new Yukon XL.
    Noticed the front bumper is not straight real close to a inch lower on the left side. Does anyone know how to adjust? Is it four to six bolts or to involved? Live about 40mi from the dealer and don't want to them business just yet.
    Thanks
  • sgj55sgj55 Member Posts: 34
    still works the same way as before, $500.00 max
    per year for seven years. If you go to new card you can't go back to old card. Hope this helps.
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Member Posts: 872
    Wrong again! GM's corporate down time is system wide, it includes all plants, the tech center, and all car/truck divisions. It is always at the same time every year, the first 2 weeks of July. The model change for the Cadillac is not done yet, and neither is the model change on the P/U's and SUV's. I work at the Cadillac plant, and have several friends that work in the truck plant in Pontiac,MI. Neither my plant nor the Pontiac plant have done our model year changeover. Some plants can do a change over to '03 models early, but that won't start until next week. The body shop at my plant is scheduled to begin 2003 production in two weeks, and our line will be full of 2003 models by the end of June with 200 of the new '03 models built and off of the line. The only plants that are not actually changeing over are the Vibe, and CTS plants because they are already in the '03 model year, but they still get the two week July shutdown.

    You are in the outer edge of the inner circle, and are no privy to the actual current info. I have a dealer salesman friend, he says that the dealers are the last to know anything. He also said that the dates you gave on this board are for pricing, so that proves my suspicion that that is when the dealer can give you an option by option price for ordering/specing out a new vehicle. For example, the dealers still can't give a price for an order of a 2002 Envoy XL, they are just too new, and not in the GM dealer pricing system yet. So the info you are getting from your source is dealer only and is dated by the time you get it. I also am assuming that you work for a Chevy dealer since you didn't include the Envoy in the build dates, and trust me by the time that plant closes on the 25th it will be full of '03 models, with a few off the line ready to ship. Most dealers will have the '03 models on the lots by late July, early August. Your dates are bogus, because if the info you have is true why would it take till September to get the new models to the lots?! That is what you said right? It also depends on the distance from the plant making the vehicle, and it is also effected by how many of that particular model the dealer sells, whoever sells the most gets the new stuff first. Out of curiosity do you know what they are doing with the Bravada? I do.
  • duke37duke37 Member Posts: 1
    Hello Tuckpana, My name is Danny

    I'm thinking of buy a suburban,I see the rebates info that you provided. I would like to to know what is the gas tank rebate?

    I also would like to know what you think of buying a used 2001 or should I just a new one. Please let me know what you think.

    Thanks
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Member Posts: 872
    I was wondering more about what was going on with the way I can use the rebates. Am I limited by the same usage as the newer cards, or can I use the all of my earnings at once. Like I said before, if I have $3500 built up can I use it all at once?
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Nice info. I think we can let the subject rest.
  • stakeoutstakeout Member Posts: 173
    here's a couple of pics from my Z71.( sorry about the mud--just got back from fishing) looks like they are held on by plastic rivet as seen in pic..

    http://greengrouper.com/ggserver/Image043-1.jpg

    http://greengrouper.com/ggserver/Image044-1.jpg
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    I have a friend with a Yukon XL (first year of the new body style - 2001?). He's already had the brake pads replaced under warranty (for excessive squealing) and now they're squealing again (out of warranty). Are there aftermarket pads or some procedure that will prevent the squealing? Is this a common problem?
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Member Posts: 872
    The subject is in hibernation. It just bugs me that people put out bogus info, then tell me that I don't know what is what.
  • 03tahoe03tahoe Member Posts: 83
    A member of our church desires a 03 Suburban. He needs it to be outfitted with a wheel chair lift. Didn`t think there was enough height but his wife has seen another burb so eqpt`ed at another church. Question is : if he was your close friend would you suggest waiting for about 6 weeks or so to let the line " wear-in ". He will have oxy. tanks and other special gear built in and I`m sure he can`t accept many trips to the dealers for new line adjustments. Hopefully there won`t be many since there aren`t many radical changes, at least in the body. Would appreciate your opinion.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Thank you very much for the pics!!!
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Member Posts: 872
    I have not seen any SUVs that have been converted for wheelchair access, and I would imagine that it is possible, but very costly. I would not worry about the '03 model at all, it is all interior stuff, not anything mechanical. I have heard of lowered floors, if that was done I think there will be enough headroom. There is also a bubble roof that might be available but I have not seen any in my area. I did a few searches on the web and only found one place that might handle such an extensive conversion. Here is the site: http://www.van-conversions.com/


    They are changing the fullsize vans for '03 too. They are going to get the new engines and transmissions, AWD will be available, and they are adding a set of 60/40 doors on the drivers side of the van. These are much easier to convert and more affordable for most people. If they don't need or want a full size van, they can try for an Astro with a bubble roof.

  • 03tahoe03tahoe Member Posts: 83
    Thanks for the comments. Apparently the people responsible for his loss of mobility are paying for this very very expensive modification. I gave him the link you provided just for reference.
  • adunkeradunker Member Posts: 32
    I'm pretty much through arguing with you on this subject. The answer will reveal itself once the vehicles arrive on the dealer's lots. My question for you and your "dealer salesman friend" is this: Why would I just be receiving pricing in late June through early August when I would by your calculations already have the vehicles on my lot. An invoice with all pricing is received by the dealer before the vehicle arrives.
    Olds Bravada? Don't really care. My personal opinion of Oldsmobile isn't very high. Most of their vehicles are copies of some other GM vehicles. I may be wrong on the most, but close. Besides, all Olds will be faded out the next couple of years.
    For your information, my dealership sells GM, Chevy, Pontiac, Olds, and Buick. And I CAN price a 2002 Envoy XL.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    03 model silverados will begin showing up on dealer lots end of july/ beginning of august like they have been since their introduction in 99
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Member Posts: 872
    The first of the new models is shipped w/o a price on the sticker, and actually the window sticker is blank and says label affixed for shipping only. The dealer then receives the actual invoice and a new window sticker will be sent to the invoicing dealer for the car. You can not price me a 2003 model right now, and you will see that if you try, because they do not have all the new available options in the system to give a price on. You will be able to give a ball park price and if you read the fine print on your computer it tells you price not guaranteed. GM lets you spec out a vehicle on the computer, but will not guarantee the price for the next model year. Traditionally you can figure in a 5% per year increase. You may be able to price a 2002 Envoy XL, but can you order me one? NO!!!!! Now give me a price on an '03 with factory XM radio, Bose, 6 disc changer, sunroof from the factory, leather, heated seats, polished aluminum rims, basically a fully loaded "H" package. Since you are a Chevy dealer get me a price on a Bose equipped 4wd fully loaded '03 Tahoe. According to you the prices are available, so let us all know how much the Bose radio w/ built in 6 disc changer runs in a '03 TAHOE.

    Strange you don't know, or care about a product that puts bread on your table. You should also know that 2002 is the last year for Olds. What is happening to the Bravada is that they are going to be re-badged as a BUICK!! It will not be offered in extended form and will only have the 5.3L V-8 engine and AWD. Another pop quiz, what plant is the Buick Le Sabre made at.
    You sound like you work as a service writer or a service tech, not a salesman. Not discrediting your job, just pointing out that from the info you are giving us all you don't sound like a salesman.
  • adunkeradunker Member Posts: 32
    All 2002 orders were due at the end of March. So, no, I can't order a 2002 Envoy XL. You should know this too if you work for a plant. A Bravado does not put bread on my table. In my part of the country, trucks and Tahoes is what I sell the most. As a matter of fact, we sold our last two Oldsmobiles in January with no intention of getting any more. They do not sell good where I am at. Oldsmobile is good at rebadging vehicles. It is like the Plymouth to GM.
    I never said I could price a 2003 model year. Your assumptions have lead you too far. I can price a select few other than the Vibe and CTS, but not anything that really matters much.
    You are correct on some point about the window sticker. However, a true invoice does arrive before the vehicle. It almost has to. As an example, do you buy a truck and have it arrive in your driveway before you know how much your paying for it? I doubt it.
    If you really want to know, the Buick LeSabres that I have came from the Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly Center. Oh, and FYI, I'm not in service, I'm the Internet Manager at my dealership. How else do you think I have time to waste on these message boards trying to help consumers?
  • automan227automan227 Member Posts: 118
    so you feel being on these boards helping consumers is a waste of time?
  • jaw2000jaw2000 Member Posts: 133
    But saying things like:

    "I'm the Internet Manager at my dealership. How else do you think I have time to waste on these message boards trying to help consumers" and arguing over such petty things, really puts your credibility in the toilet.

    I understand that you may be frustrated, but arguing over a plant shutdown (for I assume re-tooling) that occurs every year, or insulting potential customers?, really is that what the internet sales manager is supposed to do?
  • adunkeradunker Member Posts: 32
    Time to waste and Waste of time are two very different phrases. Do you call going outside to wash your car because you have time to waste a waste of time? No, for the very reason it's not a waste of time.
    My credibility has gone nowhere. I care for none anyways. If you look Jaw2000, I've quit arguing over a stupid plant shutdown. Now I have this jmilbrg(or something to that nature) continually trying to ask little trivia questions. I don't typically argue over petty things. I will argue until I may be proven wrong. That is what argruing is. I know others(a-hem) that seem to argue continuously over the same petty issue. I do not insult or degrade potential customers. Most people here have already purchased a new vehicle, or have their mind made up that they are buying a new one.
    If you care to know, the reason I have "time to waste" is because I am on the internet all day long. I gather consumer feedback from different areas. That is the job of an internet manager, to gather info from the consumers. Now if I see something that looks wrong, I will reply just like everyone else on these message boards do. I just seem to get more flack from the consumers because, like all consumers, they want to be in control. And that's ok. So if I happen to be wrong, prove it to me. Isn't that what people who argue want - to be persuaded to change their view?
  • jaw2000jaw2000 Member Posts: 133
    And I cannot nor do I want to further this discussion.

    I envy you for having both time to waste, and a job that allows you to 'hang out' on line all day long.
  • sbspencesbspence Member Posts: 16
    My wife and I considering an 00 or newer 1/2 ton Sub for a daily driver and were wondering about gas mileage that owners are seeing in the real world. We would be getting the smallest v8 with the auto tranny in the 1500. We now have a 97 Venture EXT with the 3.4 engine that we have had VERY good luck with that we'll be trading in. While this unit does well on the HWY with a best of 27, it doesn't do so well in town with and avg of 16-17 MPG. I'm hoping that the Sub will be halfway competitive as far as city MPG go...? TIA !
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    One last comment

    I have heard from a dealer friend (guy who sold me my truck which i ordered in march of 00 and I had up until the end of april to order a 00) that there are some 03 silverados with the quadrasteer out. He personally seen a few at a dealership in illinois. And no these arent the gmc sierra denalis these are chevy silverados 03 model yr
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Member Posts: 872
    Buick Le Sabre is built at two plants, both in MI. One being the plant I work at, Detroit/Hamtramk MI, and Lake Orion MI.

    Now one more question, if I was to order a new '03 model truck, can I select the new options that are available, and if so can you give me a price on them? From what you have told me the invoice for the vehicle get to the dealer first, and that makes sense so that all the finance stuff can be done before the vehicle arrives and is ready for final delivery. Now by the time the new stuff hits the lots do you have the ability to use the "build your own" program to price a vehicle w/o an invoice to draw information from, for those that want to order instead of take one from the lot or one that is already inbound to the dealer?

    I am tired of the bickering also, so lets bury the hatchet. I still do want to know the actual way that the dealer eventually gets it's information on pricing though. It's not a test or anything, it's actual genuine curiosity.
  • adunkeradunker Member Posts: 32
    I can sense your sincerity. Now as I've said, I cannot price out a '03 truck just yet. The actual first '03's that are built, are the '02s that were left in the system that didn't get to the order deadline in time. GM has a program that the dealers have. This program is updated weekly with the different pricing and option changes that take place. An invoice is not needed to price out a vehicle, just this program with the updates.
    Oh, and just so you know, Lake Orion is where my Park Avenues are coming from.
  • adunkeradunker Member Posts: 32
    I'm not sure if you had a question or what your comment was. But just to let you know, yes, Chevy does have the quadrasteer in their own trucks. We recieved our first back in April. We also just recieved two GMC Denali pickups.
  • multiplechoicemultiplechoice Member Posts: 113
    My '99 suburban K1500 started to shift very harshly yesterday (1st to 2nd gear). Occurred when the truck was hot. After parking it for a hour, the shifting was back to normal. I have 82K miles on it. Transmission fluid flushed a 60K. I don't tow anything with it either. Any ideas as to the source of the problem.
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Member Posts: 872
    Yeah they build the Park Ave, Bonniville, and Le Sabre at the Lake Orion plant. That is the up in the air plant, they might be shutting down and re tooling to deal with a totally new platform, but GM is saying very little right now. I don't know if they are still building them but they were building the Aurora there too.

    So the program now updates weekly, instead of once or twice a year? You can get the options ordered but don't know the price until you receive the invoice, at least at the moment, until GM releases the '03 pricing right? I guess what I am asking is if I wanted to sit down and get a price on a 2002 vehicle built to my liking that it can be done, but can I get a price. I know that they have changed the program for specing out a vehicle, and have not sat down to spec out a new car with the new system. I am in the market for a "mid-size" SUV, preferably an Envoy XL, w/5.3L V-8. I want to get one speced out so I can figure out the financing aspect of it and to make sure it fits into the family budget. So far what I am getting from my local dealer salesman friend is that I can spec it out in the system but I can't get a price yet, and that the prices will be out in mid to late August. The dealer does have some 2003s on order but none of them have been invoiced in GMs ordering system, so he can't give me even a ball park estimate. Is this true? I am figuring that the truck will be stickering at around $40k. I wish I could just talk my wife into a Yukon, would be around the same price, and with the new '03 options...

    Thanks
  • sonjaabsonjaab Member Posts: 1,057
    If you have the old black one you can
    use all your earnings at once !
    The new ones you can only use $1500
    max on a new GM pickup !
    I differs on some models tho.
    Just remind the dealer and the GM card
    service people you have the "OLD" card !
  • sonjaabsonjaab Member Posts: 1,057
    03 TAHOE....
    Ask your dealer about handicap
    accessories on your new GM vehicle !
    GM pays some $$$ for MOST certain mods.
    Ask the salesman...If he looks at
    you like your crazy.
    Take him to www.gmmobility.com
    I think thats the right link .
    If not search GM buypower site.
    Hope this helps.......geo

    BTW: a friend of my dads had a
    wheel chair lift thing installed
    on the drivers side of his xcab
    chevy truck. GM paid like 500 bucks
    towards it and hand controls too !
  • sonjaabsonjaab Member Posts: 1,057
    And start ups ,delays, changes, check out
    www.wheels.com
  • adunkeradunker Member Posts: 32
    I can price out a 2002 Envoy XL with 1SK package. The only thing is that the 5.3L would have to be a special order option. My program will not let me add this to the vehicle. The MSRP for the Envoy, without the 5.3L is around $36,800 with an invoice of around $33,700. Hope that will help you a little bit.
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