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I will be replacing my tires this weekend (235-70-R16's) with a set of 255-65-R16's,
Goodyear Wrangler HP's. They should fill out the wheel wells a little more and not cause too much of a speedometer problem.
The first service is at 60k. My local Ford dealer wants to charge $450 for the service.
I moved to Michigan from Eurpoe recently, I don't have a good feeling for prices but in my country this cost would be way too high.
Can somebody help me on this with some experience?
thanks
Note that what the manufacturer recommends can vary widely from what the dealer thinks you should do.
Steve, Host
However after doing a bit of research on their system, I feel a bit more comfortable and find that the new system may be better than the older manual system:
1- The system is running in a locked 4WD (50/50 locked?) when start up until a certain minimum speed (not sure when it switches over to 2WD - from gear 2?)
2- It is running as a 2WD from a certain minimum speed (from gear 2?) until the system decide to engage 4WD (variable torque distribution depending on the situation - probably using a multi-plate clutch) BEFORE the front wheels slip (not sure how the system detects this but apparently via many inputs: throttle, wheels' speed, etc.).
3- Not sure when the system will switch back to 2WD (when the front wheels and the rear wheels travel at the same speed?)
3- The system will switch to a locked 4WD driving mode (50/50 ?) IF it found that the 2WD to 4WD switching hapens too often to prevent system overheating.
4- 4WD will be disengaged when the system overheats (should not happens if the system works properly?)
5- When the system overheat it will run in 2WD and will function again when it cool down enough.
I would feel very comfortable with this system if it works as I have just described (except for missing of 4WD low but that is a different story).
Can someone knows the Tribute/Escape or work on the Tribute/Escape comment on this?
Thanks.
From what I've read so far, the system is reliable and pretty hardy, but only time will tell
Because they hydraulics could take up to a couple of seconds to actually transfer torque, there was a manual lock knob.
The new system is electronic. Sensors can anticipate wheel slip and a solenoid kicks in transferring torque in about 50 milliseconds.
There was a press event for the Ford Freestyle, which uses a similar system, at a gravel quarry. The Freestyle and the competition were both driven up a steep bank of gravel. Stopped and then driven forward again.
Only the Freestyle's system prevented the car from rolling down the hill. The Chrysler Pacifica rolled backwards about 9 feet before the AWD engaged and the Buick Rendezvous rolled all the way to the bottom.
Mark
Can anyone help me please with this if you know it is not the fuel pump before I buy a fuel pump. please :confuse:
The old system detected wheel slippage and transferred torque with something akin to a torque converter. When the front wheels slipped torque when to the rear but not instantaneously as the coupling had to "spool up" To shortcut this potential delay, you got a lock in switch.
The new system is electronic. Sensors measure the wheel speeds and can engage an electronic clutch to send torque to the rear wheels in 50 milliseconds or about one-seventh of a tire rotation. With this quick reaction time, there is no need for customer intervention. Accordingly, there is no switch.
Mark
However, I hope it is not the fuel pump. Changing the fuel pump is not something you are going to do yourself...
That is unless you have a lift..its competely inside the gas tank and you'll have to remove the gas tank to get to it. Oh and you'll have to put a gas tank, with gas in it, somewhere where you want endanger yourself while you do this.
I hope you have AAA.
Mark
My suggestion is to have it taken to the dealer. They can find the problem pretty quick these days with the diagnositcs they use. unfortunatly if it is the fuel pump, ouch... its going to cost you..
Thanks!
Did you try it in forward?
The 4WD light only comes on when the 4WD system is malfunctioning. In other words, you're fine.
If you hit some ice you'll still slip no matter what 4WD or AWD system you have.
If the light isn't actually suppose to come on when the system is activated, how does the driver ever know if it's working or not?
Also, have you checked the IAC (Idle Air Control Motor). They gum-up real bad and eitherhave to be cleaned thoroughly or eventually replaced. I've replaced mine twice, just to be safe.
Also, you may want to check the coil-packs to make sure they are functioning properly. I've heard that bad coil-pack(s) can casue some of the symptoms you described. There will be six(6), one ofr each spark-plug. While you're at it, check the spark plugs themselves. If you've got 75K miles or over on the originals, then it's possible that the OEM's need to be changed out d/t wear or fouling.
FWIW, pre-2005 models had a switch that when turned to 4X4 the light lit and stayed on until the switch was moved back to "Auto".
continuously monitors vehicle conditions and automatically adjusts the
power distribution between the front and rear wheels. It combines
transparent all-surface operation with highly capable four-wheel drive.
The 4WD system is always active and requires no driver input. It is
capable of handling all road conditions, including street and highway
driving as well as off-road and winter driving.
During very extreme off-road events, the 4WD system has a heat
protection mode to protect itself from damage. If the system detects an
overheat condition, it will enter a locked mode. If the heat in the 4WD
system continues to rise in locked mode, it will disable itself. To exit heat
protection mode, simply stop the vehicle and allow it to cool.
4WD system indicator lights
• Blinks continuously when 4WD
system is disengaged (i.e. two
wheel drive) due to heat
protection mode.
• Blinks several times every minute when 4WD system requires
service. Please bring your vehicle to your local dealer for service.
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4WD system messages in Message Center (if equipped)
• SERVICE 4WD: Displayed when 4WD system requires service. Please
bring your vehicle to your local dealer for service.
• 4WD LOCKED TEMPORARILY: Displayed when 4WD system is
locked (i.e. permanent four wheel drive) due to heat protection mode.
• 4WD DISABLED TEMPORARILY: Displayed when 4WD system is
disengaged (i.e. two wheel drive) due to heat protection mode.
• 4WD AUTO RESTORED: Displayed when normal 4WD system
function is restored when heat protection mode is exited.
https://web.msslib.dealerconnection.com/RightSite/getcontent/myfile.pdf?DMW_OBJECTID=09000- c58804e366f
For some reason, the site puts a - in the link...
http://tinyurl.com/ckazp
Steve, Host
Was this owner's manual for a 2005 Escape? Could the difference in manuals have anything to do with the fact that I'm in Canada?
Anyway, thanks for everyone's help!
One thing i did find out is in the repair manual tell you to break apart drive axle and intermideate shaft, you dont have to you can keep all one piece to get it out
Anyway, the shop did take out the drive axle to get to the alternator. How'd you do it without disassembling everything ?
Mark
The Edge is pretty much replacing the Escape in the small midsize category, leaving room in the smaller 4 cylinder end of the Market.
Expect a redesign in some fashion or the new vehicle by the 08 model year.
Mark.
List is as follows (and in this order); (all '06MY)
1. Pontiac SV6 FWD 3.9ltr (w/ towing package)
2. Ford Freestyle SEL FWD
3. Nissan Quest SL Special Edition
4. Honda Pilot EX
5. Hummer H3 (wishfull thinking) :shades:
I'm headed to the Philadelphia Auto Show Feb 4th and going to be checking out alot of vehicle. I will post a link to showcase pictures from there.
Oh by the way, I was offered $11,500 trade-in on the Escape towards the SV6 and Freestyle. That got my wife droooling, but I said to wait till after the Auto Show.
sorry if it's been a while between post's, very busy at work and home.
Odie
I too had also read and seen on an auto show about 2 months ago that the Equator could be the Escapes replacement. I am however reading different news today.. Escape will probably go by the way side in 2007/08 model year...
pf_flyer, "Auto Show Season 2006 - Members Meet up!" #274, 31 Jan 2006 7:13 pm
Steve, Host
Unfortinataly, I want to go in stlye so I'm driving my wife's car down to the show. :shades:
You're one of those who say, "Meet me at Beaver Stadium! I'll be the one in blue and white"
It only takes me about 1 hour 15 mins to drive down from Hershey.
To quote Dr. Emmitt Brown "Roads, where we're going, we don't need roads."
Odie
The new rules for safety buttons on power windows goes into effect for the 08 model year so something will definately have to change by then.
The Edge is going to be priced at the high end of the current Escape line so its not a direct replacement.
Ford is stating that there are basically 2 different kinds of CUVs those that emulate traditional SUVs, such as the Escape or those that look like something completely different such as the Murano, and now the Edge. As such, Ford may want 2 CUVs in the same price braket or close to each other.
Mark
1. Pontiac SV6 FWD 3.9ltr (w/ towing package)
- This is basically their old minivan platform with a new cover...I'd stay far away.
2. Ford Freestyle SEL FWD
- I have an SE that cost $25K with safety package, convenience, Tri-zone heating & A/C, 20-25mpg, currently 23K miles, great ride height, car handling, and zero problems
3. Nissan Quest SL Special Edition
- If you really need the really large space of a minivan, I'd get an Odyssey for the handling and interior space/layouts.
4. Honda Pilot EX
- This is a good one, but for me the interior space of the Freestyle won out...compare the interior specs
5. Hummer H3 (wishfull thinking)
How about the Toyota Highlander?
Odie
Odie
For Towing with the others;
1. '06 SV6 - 3500lbs with 3.9lt and towing package.
2. '06 Freestyle - 2500lbs (all the engine can handle)with aftermarket kit (no package avail.)
3. '06 Quest - No towing package avail.
4. '06 Pilot - 4500lbs with towing package.
As for Horses;
1. SV6 - 201 (3.5ltr), 240 (3.9ltr)
2. Freestyle - 201 (3.0ltr), 245 (3.5ltr - Not yet released)
3. Quest - 240 (3.5ltr)
4. Pilot - 240 (3.5ltr)
I have to list the Quest and Pilot, because they are still being considered. They are at least 3 laps behind the leaders, but they are still in the race. :shades:
Odie
Personally with your load I'd look at a 2 year old (to be on par with the price of a new SV6) low mileage Odyssey or Sienna for the additional quality, reliability, interior space and flexibility.
With the CVT, if you want the tranny to drop instantly to a low ratio, you have to literally, totally, completely FLOOR the gas pedal.
There is a little button under the gas pedal that only gets activated if you FLOOR IT!
The Freestyle and Five Hundred have plenty of get up and go, when you know this little trick that every Salesman should know but doesn't. They just don't sound so good on the ears while doing it.
Mark.