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much more room for the hounds, though.
Liberty was my second choice. I felt the Escape had better engine response, better road feel. The back seats of the Liberty also felt smaller and more difficult to get in and out of. Jeep relies on its "Trail rating" gizmo sales pitch. The fact is the Majority of us never even see as much as a gravel road!
I see the Element has popped up from time to time.. My kids have nicknamed this vehicle the "UGLYMENT". Everytime we see one they say Uglyment alert!....
-juice
Brian
-juice
Diesels have come a long way, IMO.
-juice
Edit: It's a 150HP 2.8L 4 cylinder turbo diesel.
http://autoweek.com/search/search_display.mv?port_code=autoweek&a- mp;a- mp;cat_code=carnews&content_code=09843086&Search_Type=STD- - &Search_ID=1858207&record=3
DaveM
A lot has changed since the bad old days of diesels...modern diesel engines are quiet, smooth, and powerful. I rented a 2003 Focus wagon in France last year with a turbo-diesel engine in it and let me tell you, that thing was a blast to drive. Quiet, amazing power, and 45+ mpg on the autoroutes at speeds of 110mph or so. I would buy on here in the states tomorrow if it were available.
Brian
edit: here's a link
http://autoweek.com/search/search_display.mv?port_code=autoweek&a- mp;cat_code=reviews&content_code=01524043&Search_Type=STD- &Search_ID=1858816&record=37
I'm willing to be persuaded, but somehow I think I'd rather be in my turbo XT when passing semitrucks or RVs on uphill 2-lane mountain roads...
I haven't needed to replace wear and tear items, even my brake pads are still original. Well, the tires aren't, but that's about it.
-juice
Odie
In-line 5s are hard to package. Many are mounted longitudinally, so you need a long hood.
-juice
-juice
http://www.waitnews.com/hyundai_tucson.htm
-juice
-Frank P.
tidester, host
Frank,
The Tucson's beltline may or may not be higher than good visibility allows; I can't tell from the artists' renditions, which are invariably more dramatic than the real McCoy. When I criticize the latest from Nissan, I'm mainly talking about excessively large and dangerous blind spots created by wide D-pillars, fenderlines that for no functional reason kick up as they approach the hatch, that sort of thing. The Tucson does have an element of this in the rear extremety of its fenderline, but nowhere near as exaggerated as the Murano or FX, or even X3.
I'll reserve judgement and criticism until the actual cars are available to inspect. The FX, Murano, and X3 have been out for awhile, and they flunk.
My apologies to other readers who don't know what-the-heck I'm talking about.
james
If it's lighter than the SF it could perform well with the V6. SF is pretty heavy for its size.
-juice
If you own a Santa Fe or a CRV are you happy with your purchase? Would you buy another?
Oh, the resale value doesn't bother me I tend to run my cars forever. I have a 92 Corolla.
CR-V has excellent reliability but the industry's worst warranty, IMO, 3/36 without even roadside assistance.
But forget what I think, buy the one you like better. Which one was more fun to drive? Which did you feel more comfortable in? Bring your family and gear along with you, how to you fit inside each of them? Which brings you the bigger smile?
Choose that one, you can't go wrong.
-juice
-Frank P.
-juice
1. Was told my GM credit card points were not accepted but dealer did give me extra $750 against my $1150 potential.
2. They claimed they knew nothing of the 6 coupons worth $250 each. Noticed in the paper latter that day they are offering up to $1,500 bonus cash that I think is the same. Can someone confirm and is this a regional deal or nationwide?
3. They offered me $3500 rebate + $750 off sticker with my financing or $1,000 +750 with 0% @60. I assume the $1000 is truckfest is that correct or should I be looking for more rebates?
4. I may be able to get the GM supplier discount. What would that do for me?
5. Has anyone purchased or seen the Safe and Sound Package for $880. Saturn website says it is reduced by $360 at this time.
I need to speak to the dealer Monday to close deal and would really appreciate any advice you can offer.
Thanks
Larry
Who could ever dream that buying a car would become this complicated. Good luck.
Regards,
Kyle
badly.The paint is very easy to scratch and dent.The driving experience was ok around town but under powered for freeway flying.It would downshift on the slightest hill and passing was scary.If you went into a corner too fast it was unstable and unsettled.Of course it is short and tall and that's normal behavior.I thought about the Escape since my son works for a Ford dealer but the poor quality turns me off.I really wanted an MDX but $40000 turns me off. So I settled for the Highlander Limited because I got it loaded for $30000 through an employee discount.My car
is not an offroad vehicle it is a comfortable utility vehicle so it is a CUV. If you live in the boonies with dirt roads you might need a
Jeep or true offroader but us urban dwellers just want comfort.A lifted 4x4 that never gets dirty is all about self image.
Is the HL a V6 model? AWD?
Too bad Honda and Toyota no longer make wagons of the Accord and Camry.
-juice
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Jeannine Fallon
PR Director
Edmunds.com
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2004-08-05-vue-_x.htm
Most VUE owners will be getting a call or a letter from Saturn as well as a stronger suspension.
FWIW, I know 4 VUE owners, 1 is a Redline, and none of them have had problems.
tidester, host
Not that they really had a choice. When your vehicle resoundingly fails a standard government safety test you've got to act quick or risk the fate of the Suzuki Samari! In the Pantheon of embarrassing moments, this rates right up there with the steering wheel fiasco of the early Escapes.
My only question is how in the heck can a vehicle get completely through the development cycle and into production without such a basic flaw being discovered?
-Frank
Perhaps those have higher cornering limits that Saturn didn't account for during the design. Still that would have meant the rushed the testing process of that model.
-juice
No. All VUE trims and MY's were part of the recall.
p0926,
this rates right up there with the steering wheel fiasco of the early Escapes.
IIRC none of the Escapes made it off of the lots and, much unlike the VUE, it was caught very early on. I remember seeing them on the lots with big yellow sign's on the steering wheels instructing the dealer to "DO NOT SELL". Why they had them out in plain view I'll never understand.
Ford seemed to bounce back from all the early recalls, as the Escape is a perennial best-seller.
-juice